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Since when did intellect and education become bad things?
Hanford Sentinel ^ | March 8, 2012 | Kevin Horrigan, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Posted on 03/08/2012 1:16:40 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

As a card-carrying member of the media elite, it’s hard for me to say something nice about Newt Gingrich. But here it is: He doesn’t wear blue jeans in public.

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For many Republican primary voters, the only thing worse than a regular elite is an intellectual elite or a media elite or especially a liberal intellectual media elite.

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More to the point, does the fact that a guy reads books and deals in ideas disqualify him?

For many Americans, it does. Anti-intellectualism has been a consistent theme throughout American history. The political scientist Richard Hofstadter won a Pulitzer Prize for “Anti-Intellectualism in American Life.”

This was in 1964, and Hofstadter was writing about the 1950s, in the wake of McCarthyism and Adlai Stevenson’s “egghead” campaign. Hofstadter noted “hostility to intellectuals expressed on the far right wing, a categorical and folkish dislike of the educated classes and of anything respectable, established, pedigreed or cultivated.”

Now it’s back. The most prominent American conservative is not the erudite William F. Buckley but the seething Rush Limbaugh.

.....If ideas and knowledge are elitist, if you have to pretend to be ignorant to be elected president, then the country is in more trouble that we thought it was.

(Excerpt) Read more at hanfordsentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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.....“hostility to intellectuals expressed on the far right wing, a categorical and folkish dislike of the educated classes and of anything respectable, established, pedigreed or cultivated.”

Now it’s back. ....


Kevin Horrigan, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

a liberal intellectual media elite.

Talk about storing your head where the sun don't shine! They really need to get out more.

Education obviously does not guarantee possessing knowledge or leaving you with the ability to THINK critically.

1 posted on 03/08/2012 1:16:46 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Liar. Americans simply want a world class liar to occupy their White House.


2 posted on 03/08/2012 1:20:18 PM PST by Milhous
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Newt Gingrich and wife Callista talk with Richard D. Lopez, M.D., Assistant Dean for Research, Pam Bounelis and Ed Partridge, M.D., director of UAB Comprehensive Cancer Center, and as they visit the Comprehensive Cancer Center at UAB Wednesday. March 7, 2012 in Birmingham, Ala.
3 posted on 03/08/2012 1:22:36 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Cometh the hour, cometh the man. NEWT GINGRICH 2012)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There is no hostility towards smart, educated people.

The hostility is towards those self defined “intellectuals” who are elitists and think they are entitled to make our decisions for everyone else.

Those are the bastards we despise.


4 posted on 03/08/2012 1:22:45 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

INTELLECT
1a : the power of knowing as distinguished from the power to feel and to will : the capacity for knowledge

Elite EDUCATION:
Remove God and insert socialism


5 posted on 03/08/2012 1:23:27 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since when ...

John Stuart Mill? Even better, Plato.

6 posted on 03/08/2012 1:27:41 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Milhous

Ever notice how Democrat presidential nominees are referred to as brilliant? Carter, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama....

And Republican presidential nominees are called stupid? ...Reagan, Bush....


7 posted on 03/08/2012 1:29:42 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Education obviously does not guarantee possessing knowledge or leaving you with the ability to THINK critically.

Exactly, and having an above average intellect doesn’t mean you have any worthwhile ideas to share.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 1:32:13 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

perhaps if such a large percentage of the intellectual community were not made up of pundits and professors who were total d-——bags...


9 posted on 03/08/2012 1:32:27 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since when did intellect and education become bad things?

Since academia was taken over by leftist radicals, the western canon was replaced by multicultural gobbledygook, the English language was replaced by Newspeak, free thinking was replaced by political correctness, and education was replaced with indoctrination.

10 posted on 03/08/2012 1:32:27 PM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I read that during the 1956 presidential campaign Adlai Stevenson’s Harvard transcripts were kept in a locked drawer in the office of the President of Harvard. And in the 1950’s it was probably easier to get into Harvard, if you had the money, and definitely easier to graduate from Harvard than West Point.


11 posted on 03/08/2012 1:33:26 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The author almost got it right, but not quite, and Newt Gingrich is the poster child for why.

Perhaps the biggest reason behind Newt's popularity is that despite his flaws, he's recognized as being extremely bright, and excels in the world of ideas. And it is conservatives who are valuing that. So how can so many conservatiuves like a guy who is clearly an intellectual if they hate intellectuals?

The answer is that what conservatives dislike and mistrust are those left-wing intellectuals who believe they are smart enough to tell other people how to live their lives. Someone who considers themselves your intellectual equal or lesser isn't going to tell you that they could live your life better than you could. But intellectuals who think regular people aren't competent enough to win their own lives? Oh yeah, we conservatives despise them.

12 posted on 03/08/2012 1:33:31 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MrB
Too many confuse academic credentials with intelligence. While the two may not be mutually exclusive, one is by no means, a certain indicator of the other.

Many folks these days are in fact, educated beyond their intelligence. A few of them even show up here from time to time.

13 posted on 03/08/2012 1:33:47 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Oh look! It’s a sweater vest!

Hillary doesn’t wear mini-skirts, either. I like Gingrich in a suit and I love the mans mind. I would feel very proud to have intellectual Newt representing us!

Go Gingrich!


14 posted on 03/08/2012 1:34:28 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MrB
There is no hostility towards smart, educated people.

The hostility is towards those self defined “intellectuals” who are elitists and think they are entitled to make our decisions for everyone else.

Those are the bastards we despise.

That post was so on the friggin money I had to repost it. Thanks. And your prize is this delightful destruction of the elites: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/palin_v_pundits.html

15 posted on 03/08/2012 1:34:28 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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"hostility to intellectuals expressed on the far right wing, a categorical and folkish dislike of the educated classes and of anything respectable, established, pedigreed or cultivated.”

This dumbass just described the Democrats on the plantation.
16 posted on 03/08/2012 1:34:59 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Bush was clearly more academically accomplished than that moron Al Gore.


17 posted on 03/08/2012 1:35:18 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Let me re-post it without the grammatical problem...

There is no hostility towards smart, educated people.

The hostility is towards those self defined “intellectuals” who are elitists and think they are entitled to make decisions for everyone else.

Those are the bastards we despise.


18 posted on 03/08/2012 1:36:34 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If memory serves me, propaganda media lauded Clinton for being such a great liar. Obama’s buyers-remorse malaise may come from feelings that Obama needs to become a better liar.


19 posted on 03/08/2012 1:39:41 PM PST by Milhous
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, actually Kevin, education became a bad thing when it gradually changed from teaching people things—science, history, literature, religion, excellence all around—to brainwashing them to be good little lying, liberal elite scum like you.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 1:42:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Perhaps the biggest reason behind Newt's popularity is that despite his flaws, he's recognized as being extremely bright, and excels in the world of ideas. And it is conservatives who are valuing that. So how can so many conservatiuves like a guy who is clearly an intellectual if they hate intellectuals?

True, but there is definitely a strain of Republicans, who are probably all supporting Santorum, who either don't appreciate or value Newt's intellect, but have a hostility to it. These people usually have trouble stringing a complete sentence together on FR. So I think it's the same phenomenon some women have toward Sarah Palin. Some women will hate any women prettier than they are and some people will hate anyone smarter than they are. They'll spin it as saying that person is "arrogant," "talks down" to people and so forth, but it's not really about that.

21 posted on 03/08/2012 1:42:57 PM PST by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They are only bad when they belong to those people we don’t like...but since we don’t like those people, they can’t really have those qualities anyway. They are some sort of INO.


22 posted on 03/08/2012 1:45:40 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As my old man used to say, dude hears the bells ringing but he don't know at which church.

You don't need a better proof of anti-intellectualism than the successes of the two mediocrities Saintorum and Mittie. And it's not just anti-intellectualism, it's primarily, me thinks, mediocrity. An educated, articulate dude like Newt makes us dumbies feel oh so inferior, off with his head! (See under: Nixon, Richard.) We love mediocrity in this country: mediocre films, mediocre bestselling books and records, Americans Idle on TV - the very celebration badness. (I'd rather watch Lucha Libre!) Don't we all hatge PBS and it's high polluting programs? Liberals and conservatives are united in this preference.

23 posted on 03/08/2012 1:45:58 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For someone who classifies themselves as “a card-carrying member of the media elite” I have a hard time believing that they would be either Intellectual or Educated. They obviously think of themselves as “elite” which shows a mental condition.

The only party that has had an attack and hate for Education or Intellect is the Democratic party, especially the liberal part of it. With their infiltration of education at all levels K - College, they have brought the grade points of entire generations down to those of 3rd world countries. Where America once stood for the best and brightest, we now rank low in the world on education.

Now they are doing to our manufacturing what they did to education. They have taken a country that was known for making the best products and quality items and now make us a country that hardly manufactures anything anymore.

The lack of education mixed with the loss of manufacturing equals loss of jobs and outsourcing to countries that are not friends or allies.

This is, IMHO, their plan all along. They hate America for it’s strength and would rather we grovel at the feet of those European nations that the liberals would love to emulate.

Liberalism is a mental disease and it’s one of self destruction.


24 posted on 03/08/2012 1:49:39 PM PST by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Interesting snark by a guy who looks remarably like Gingrich!

Intellect and education are “bad” only to urban Amish yutes and when wielded by white, male, conservatives.


25 posted on 03/08/2012 1:49:47 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Maceman
Since academia was taken over by leftist radicals, the western canon was replaced by multicultural gobbledygook, the English language was replaced by Newspeak, free thinking was replaced by political correctness, and education was replaced with indoctrination.

You should send him a note.

26 posted on 03/08/2012 1:50:05 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JediJones
There's a few of those people who prefer a more rapid sort of populism, but there are Democrats who think that way too -- who mistrust "smart-talking" people. I don't think that's the explanation for why Republicans overall seem less inclined to nominate "intellectuals". It's that most of those "intellectuals" are the ones who want to tell the rest of us what to do.

But for the most part, Republicans love conservatives who are intellectuals. like Paul Ryan, etc.

27 posted on 03/08/2012 1:51:47 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
1828? 1840?

Seriously, dude, a long, long time ago.

I guess not everybody got the memo.

28 posted on 03/08/2012 1:54:12 PM PST by x
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...............Now they are doing to our manufacturing what they did to education. They have taken a country that was known for making the best products and quality items and now make us a country that hardly manufactures anything anymore........

NASA is now a green agency and we cannot get to the ISS under our own power. Obama's Science and Technology Czar (from day one), John P. Holdren tells U.S. graduate students that America should not expect to be #1 all the time, instead he told them that the world would be a better and safer place if we weren't. Imagine what this administration is doing to all sectors of this once great country.

29 posted on 03/08/2012 1:55:47 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great post, thanks - and lots of great comments!


30 posted on 03/08/2012 1:57:22 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I read that during the 1956 presidential campaign Adlai Stevenson’s Harvard transcripts were kept in a locked drawer in the office of the President of Harvard. And in the 1950’s it was probably easier to get into Harvard, if you had the money, and definitely easier to graduate from Harvard than West Point.

Adlai Stevenson II went to Princeton as an undergraduate. He did drop out of Harvard Law School after failing some classes but later graduated from Northwestern Law School and passed the bar exam.

If his Harvard transcript were kept in a locked drawer in 1956, it would have to have been hidden in 1952 as well.

Reading his Wikipedia page the more surprising thing that might have been used against him today is that he once killed someone.

31 posted on 03/08/2012 1:58:04 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My only response to this would be to quote Lady Thatcher’s “Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t” and note that the same also applies to intellect.


32 posted on 03/08/2012 1:59:58 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet ((316 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Too many confuse academic credentials with intelligence.

Wizard of Oz: "Why, anybody can have a brain. That's a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has a brain. Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have. But they have one thing you haven't got: a diploma."

33 posted on 03/08/2012 2:00:17 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
....If you have to tell people you are, you aren’t”...

BUMP!

34 posted on 03/08/2012 2:01:29 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Maverick68

:)


35 posted on 03/08/2012 2:02:42 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
OK so the newspaper employee and his ilk can state Marxist ideology in their own words and that makes them intellectuals. Big deal.

They are still spoiled brats. In most cases.

Take Dr. Thomas Sowell's description of how intelligence is often recognized early, the child is treated special, given breaks, great education, inside track to great opportunities -- the works. Spoiled brats. (My words)

Take former Secret Service agent Dan Emmett's book “Within Arms’s Length.” He writes of during the course of his duties to protect the Clintons and staff "patient attempts to reason were met with childlike emotion born of a past where no one in authority--probably beginning with her parents--had ever said no to [the staffer] about anything.”

Pretty intelligent, recognized early, good schools, the left ideology, spoiled brat.

See: Secret Service agent: Clinton’s staff rude, Hillary aloof

And how about the book "Unlimited Access : An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House" by Gary Aldrich. I will always remember how potential Clinton staffers responded to loyalty clearance questions: "I am totally loyal to the Clintons!" The spoiled brats just don't get it.

36 posted on 03/08/2012 2:02:44 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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"... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"

37 posted on 03/08/2012 2:02:52 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Bump!


38 posted on 03/08/2012 2:05:16 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dfwgator
"... And there was a time in this country, a long time ago, when reading wasn't just for fags and neither was writing. People wrote books and movies, movies that had stories so you cared whose ass it was and why it was farting, and I believe that time can come again!"

And teachers believed it was important to read and encouraged it.

39 posted on 03/08/2012 2:10:50 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
....The spoiled brats just don't get it.

The danger this country is in from enemies who understand this is very real.

40 posted on 03/08/2012 2:15:45 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MrB

Well said.


41 posted on 03/08/2012 2:22:26 PM PST by Psalm 144 (“I think we ought to listen to Alinsky.” - Govenor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Since when did intellect and education become bad things?

Since about the same time that illegal aliens became "victims".

42 posted on 03/08/2012 2:23:48 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
How do this Horrigan and other so-called "intellectuals" among his self-defined "groups" qualify to sit in judgment on people who choose to define themselves as "conservatives"?

And, now might be a good time for "conservatives" to focus on defining for Horrigan what it is they value enough to "conserve." It is they who are most likely to have read great literature from the ages--not the likes of this newspaper writer and his pseudo-intellectual buddies.

This also may be a good time for conservatives to read or re-examine Dr. Russell Kirk's "The Conservative Mind, which can be read online, by the way.

In Kirk's last chapter he reviews the works of poets and writers, quoting lines which now seem to bear a strikinig resemblance to the players on the stage in American politics and mainstream media today.

For instance, in Robert Frost's "A Case for Jefferson," Frost writes of the character Harrison:

"Harrison loves my country too
But wants it all made over new.
. . . .
He dotes on Saturday pork and beans.
But his mind is hardly out of his teens.
With him the love of country means
Blowing it all to smithereens
And having it made over new."

The pseudointellectuals who occupy the White House, the media, and much of Congress fancy themselves "intellectuals."

By their words and actions, however, they display a provinciality reminiscent of that Dr. Kirk recalls as having been described by T. S. Eliot--one of time and place, having no intellectual grounding in ideas older than their own little experience in dabbling and discussing Mao, Marx, and other theoreticians.

America's written Constitution deserves protectors whose minds are out of their teens in terms of their understanding of civilization's long struggle for liberty.

The Constitution certainly deserves protectors who do not consider it a "flawed" document because it does not permit the government it structures to run rough shod over the rights of its "KEEPERS, the People" (Justice Story).

Blasting it "all to smithereens" seems to be the goal of the current Administration and so-called "progressives" who control the Executive and one-half of the Legislative branch of government.

The Founders' Constitution's strict limits on coercive power by elected representatives are being ignored and disavowed; the free enterprise system which allowed individual citizens to achieve and excel in their chosen pursuits is being co-opted by elected and unelected bureaucrats; and the rights of conscience, speech, and religion are being trampled as we post here--yet, the persons who could influence minds and hearts are quibbling about petty politics of the day instead of debating great ideas such as how to preserve liberty, or, in economic matters, discussing the conclusions of the great moral philosopher, Adam Smith's "Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations."

When, in 1776, our ancestors felt the heavy hand of the British government "taking" their earnings, regulating their lives, interfering with their beliefs, and asserting coercive control over their actions, they did not waste their time on such trivia.

They wrote great treatises such as "Thoughts on Government" and "Common Sense." They educated their young on the merits of liberty, as opposed to slavery to government, and they did the groundwork which allowed for a written Constitution for self-government to be ratified in the states only eleven years later.

America is about to be bankrupt, both financially and philosophically, and those who have benefited from the Founders' ideas, who call themselves "conservators" (conservatives) of those ideas, should come together to place those ideas before millions of young people who must participate in voting in November on whether they desire liberty or slavery.

Women, youth, men, so-called "seniors"--all need to have the choice presented clearly that this election pits the ideas of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and America's other Founders against the ideas of Marx, Lenin, and Keynes.

There are always "useful idiots." That's what every oppressive regime has relied upon. A "useful idiot" with a big megaphone is more dangerous to liberty than millions of ordinary ones, because of the ability to lull more people into a sense of complacency.

America, awaken! This decades-long battle for your liberty has been engaged. But, for decades, you have allowed the ideas of your liberty to be censored from your nation's textbooks and public discourse.

Your best weapon is contained in your Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which leaves all the power in your hands. Read them, amplify upon their principles and ideas by accessing the Founders' writings and speeches.

For a quick review of those principles and your nation's first 50 years under its Constitution, consult John Quincy Adams' "Jubilee" Address here, or a recent reprint of a 1987 Bicentennial collection of the Founders' principles, here.

James Madison stated: "Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

Mr. Horrigan, "conservatives" do not express a "hostility" to "intellectuals." They admire and revere America's true intellectuals too much to be fooled by the very provincial and pseudo-intellectual ignorance parading itself before them today.

43 posted on 03/08/2012 2:25:43 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You should send him a note.

I tried. But even though I took the trouble to sign up for an account so I could leave a comment, the website would not accept it under the "discussion" tab.

44 posted on 03/08/2012 2:32:59 PM PST by Maceman (Liberals' only problem with American slavery is that the slaves were privately owned.)
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To: Maceman
"Since when did intellect and education become bad things?"

Since academia was taken over by leftist radicals, the western canon was replaced by multicultural gobbledygook, the English language was replaced by Newspeak, free thinking was replaced by political correctness, and education was replaced with indoctrination.

Yours is a perfect response.

45 posted on 03/08/2012 2:39:16 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The classic work in that space is Thomas Sowell’s The Vision of the Anointed. I recommend it highly. Written in the mid-90s, it is still very, very much applicable today.

The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy
http://www.amazon.com/The-Vision-Anointed-Self-Congratulation-Social/dp/046508995X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331246795&sr=8-1


46 posted on 03/08/2012 2:47:49 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Intellect and education are great things. Thinking that it makes you superior to other people and entitles you to rule them is NOT a great thing.


47 posted on 03/08/2012 3:00:23 PM PST by RonF
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s real simple - it’s all in how you define “educated.”


48 posted on 03/08/2012 3:28:13 PM PST by smalltownslick
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To: FreedomPoster

I agree with you on ‘Vision of the Annointed’. It is a classic, and -ought- be a textbook for a real education, as opposed to university indoctrination.


49 posted on 03/08/2012 3:37:57 PM PST by Psalm 144 (“I think we ought to listen to Alinsky.” - Govenor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A lot of the elite think that knowledge is the same as judgment. Here is the difference between knowledge and judgment: You show knowledge by knowing that a tomato is a fruit. You show judgment by knowing that you do not put a tomato in a fruit salad.


50 posted on 03/08/2012 4:26:27 PM PST by fini
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