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Andrea Rossi Energy Catalyzer Master Timeline
New Energy Times ^ | 3/8/2012 | Steven B. Krivit

Posted on 03/08/2012 4:13:49 PM PST by Johnny B.

Andrea Rossi Energy Catalyzer Master Timeline (Includes some thermoelectric device and Petroldragon events)

(Excerpt) Read more at newenergytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; ecat; lenr; rossi; seagullthread
Detailed timeline of Rossi and his E-Cat. Even though I've been following this story for months, I learned things while reviewing this list.
1 posted on 03/08/2012 4:13:52 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Kevmo; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; ...

LENR/Cold Fusion courtesy ping.


2 posted on 03/08/2012 4:17:09 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
One very significant piece of information is THIS email from Julia Betts (forwarded by Robert Clancy), which clears up the confusion about National Instruments' relationship with Rossi:
On 3/2/2102 07:55 AM, Julia Betts wrote:

In November of 2011 the agreement referenced should be clarified as a series of discussions including NI making preliminary suggestions about which NI platforms could potentially be used for the control system. These discussions are the same discussions we would have when initiating with any customer and can include signing confidentiality paperwork or logo placement, but is not a definitive agreement to work together. We are a tools provider so again I want to emphasize these types of discussions are part of standard practice in order to assess if we can meet a customer's needs. Rossi and the Leonardo Corporation are not currently a customer of NI. Our interactions did not go beyond initial discussions and we did not design a control system for them We are not currently, nor have been for some time, in current discussions or working with him.

I hope this clarifies. Thank you.

Julia Betts - Corporate Communications and Investor Relations Manager - National Instruments

There we have it. Rossi can't claim this was just a "translation error" or a matter of interpretation. Rossi spent three months lying about this repeatedly and in detail.

3 posted on 03/08/2012 4:27:53 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

Nice job. You no doubt will be flamed by the E-CAT and Rossi lovers and all those who insist that he is not duping them


4 posted on 03/08/2012 4:34:23 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Johnny B.

As is true of most of his ‘history’...lie,lie,lie and when caught deny,debt,deny. He could have worked in the Clinton White House


5 posted on 03/08/2012 4:35:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Johnny B.

“There we have it. Rossi can’t claim this was just a “translation error” or a matter of interpretation.”

I don’t know if that means much... NI deals with as many as 30,000 customers a year in 30 countries, with thousands of reps. I don’t know anything specific about NI, but I was an HP rep for years and I advised thousands of customers and potential customers. Any one of these customers may very well say they were working with HP on a project, and yet if you ask HP Corporate - They would know nothing about it unless it involved a large signed contract. Sometimes not even then... For example: I made numinous trips to Cape Kennedy with RCA for their satellite launches, and although by boss knew where I was, I’ll guarantee you that corporate didn’t. It just wasn’t that big a deal...


6 posted on 03/08/2012 4:54:39 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: babygene
I don’t know if that means much...
Rossi claimed that he had a signed contract with NI, that NI had been working at his Bologna "laboratory" on technical issues with the E-Cat, and that NI had designed a control system for the E-Cat. He made these statements repeatedly from November through late January.

It was only when the first email from Julia Beggs was released, stating that NI had not been working with Rossi, that he suddenly changed his story. Even then, he managed to twist the story to "they had been working together, but he decided to let NI go".

This is clear evidence that everything Rossi claimed about NI was a flat-out lie.

7 posted on 03/08/2012 5:03:36 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: babygene
For example: I made numinous trips to Cape Kennedy with RCA for their satellite launches, and although by boss knew where I was, I’ll guarantee you that corporate didn’t. It just wasn’t that big a deal...

Do you really think your corporate office would specifically deny you were working on a contract, even though they didn't know whether that was true or false?

This email (along with the earlier ones from Beggs attempting to answer the same questions) are specific denials of everything Rossi said about them.

8 posted on 03/08/2012 5:17:35 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
To repeat what I wrote on another recent thread, The Third Act of this Italian Comic Opera is done. Close the the curtains, rearrange the scenery, the next play is ready.

This whole business with Rossi and his imaginary e-cats, has had the smell of canned scam gone bad from the beginning and now can be discarded for what it is. Done.

9 posted on 03/08/2012 8:06:39 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
This whole business with Rossi and his imaginary e-cats, has had the smell of canned scam gone bad from the beginning and now can be discarded for what it is. Done.
It's been obvious for quite some time that both Rossi and Defkalion are scams. What amazes me is just how desperately the "True Believers" are hanging on to it. That's the only reason this story continues to be interesting to me.

Over on the "ecatnews.com" forum, the True Believers are still trying to spin the email to suggest that NI really did provide a solution in spite of this email specifically denying that. They are also maintaining their excitement that Rossi is now claiming to be "working with" Siemens. That, they say, is real proof that Rossi is legitimate!

The fact that Rossi has lied about his relationship with every legitimate organization he has done business with is irrelevant to their analysis.

10 posted on 03/08/2012 11:49:42 PM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.

e-cat r.i.p.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 2:59:54 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Johnny B.; Admin Moderator; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Red Badger; Wonder Warthog; ...

Admin moderator:

What does it take to get someone to stop stalking an entire “courtesy” ping list of Freepers?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1888013/posts

Final note: Trolls, troublemakers, disruptors, forum pests, malcontents, RINOs, liberals, stalkers, et al, would continue posting to (harassing) someone after being asked to stop. Conservative FReepers would not.


12 posted on 03/11/2012 2:25:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Kevmo; Admin Moderator; Johnny B.
Kevmo,

I would like to hear ANY news about LENR/Cold-Fusion, even if it is negative. I read the articles, but do not get into the back-and-forth debate that has been going on here. I do sometimes comment on the topic, but if you look at my post history on LENR (example), you will know that I am not a "seagull".

I know that you do not agree with Johnny B., and that there is some history there, but ANY story on LENR/Cold-Fusion should be sent to The Cold Fusion Ping List.

Thanks,
K51

13 posted on 03/11/2012 5:54:46 PM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Kevmo

I agree.


14 posted on 03/12/2012 8:13:45 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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That’s fine, but did you sign up for JohnyB’s “courtesy” ping list? I did not, and most of those on the list probably did not, either. That is considered classic stalking behavior on FR.


15 posted on 03/12/2012 3:29:54 PM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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