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Jew Pond needs a name change
Nashua Telegraph ^ | February 23, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 5:40:16 PM PST by SJackson

Who says nothing good ever came out of a summer outbreak of algae?

After all, if it wasn’t for the discovery of those colorful organisms on a small pond two summers ago, Mont Vernon voters might not be going to Town Meeting next month with the opportunity to officially change the name of the tiny pond with the offensive name.

At that March 13 meeting, voters will consider a warrant article that asks: “To see if the Town will vote to petition the United States Geological Survey to rename Jew Pond to Grand Hill Pond.”

Despite the wording of the article, there also appears to be some sentiment in town to rename it Carleton Pond in memory of George C. Carleton, who donated the land that contains the pond to the town 40 years ago.

We’ll leave it up to town residents to decide whether it should be Grand Hill Pond, Carleton Pond or any of the names that have surfaced in recent months, such as Frog Pond, Spring Pond or even Lake Serene.

Anything but Jew Pond would be fine with us.

It was on July 14, 2010, that The Telegraph published a brief 138-word article reporting that Mont Vernon and state officials had closed the pond because of possible contamination by algae. As it turns out, the closing of the 6-foot-deep pond proved to be less newsworthy than the headline that accompanied it: “Blue-green algae closes Jew Pond.”

“It was the first time the name hit print in a long time,” Rich Masters, the town’s public health officer, says in “The Story Behind Jew Pond,” a documentary produced by University of New Hampshire-Manchester graduate student Katelyn Ann Dobbs.

“A lot of people cringed when it was publicized. I didn’t think it was a very good name and figured maybe I should go about trying to change it.”

After conducting some extensive research, Masters approached town selectmen the following year with a recommendation to rename it Frog Pond, but the board voted unanimously at that time against changing its name.

The half-acre pond appears to have gotten its derogatory name from town natives during the 1920s, after two young Jewish lawyers from Boston purchased the nearby Grand Hotel, an upscale resort that attracted many summer vacationers from the city. The new owners closed the hotel two years later, but the name “Jew Pond” eventually made its way onto a U.S. Geological Survey map of the area.

Today, the push to change the name of the pond is getting attention around the world, with stories appearing in Yahoo News, The Boston Globe, The Jewish Press, The Arizona Republic, The Guardian of London and The Straits Times of Singapore, to name a few. Videos are also available on YouTube and other sites.

It also caught the attention of Bishop Peter Libasci, the newly installed leader of the Diocese of Manchester, who didn’t mince words in a letter to the editor published Monday in The Telegraph.

In that letter, in which he urged Mont Vernon residents to support the name change next month, the bishop noted the use of the word “Jew” in this instance was clearly “pejorative.”

“It is different than the use of the word ‘Jewish’ or ‘Christian’ because it is added as a stinging barb, the way that a bigot in private company would mention a ‘Jew lawyer’ or ‘Jew doctor.’ You just absolutely know it’s meant to convey some measure of contempt,” he wrote.

“It’s a small pond, but anti-Semitism is a big deal.”

We couldn’t have said it any better.


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1 posted on 03/08/2012 5:40:16 PM PST by SJackson
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From the same source, Name of Mont Vernon pond making big splash

What a silly issue. I would suggest that burying history isn't a good thing, no disrespect to the residents, but it sounds like the locals were a tad antisemitic at the time. Which wasn't out of character. And there's no reason to erase it.

Perhaps Bishop Peter Libasci has the right idea, unknowling

the bishop noted the use of the word “Jew” in this instance was clearly “pejorative.”

“It is different than the use of the word ‘Jewish’ or ‘Christian’ because it is added as a stinging barb, the way that a bigot in private company would mention a ‘Jew lawyer’ or ‘Jew doctor.’ You just absolutely know it’s meant to convey some measure of contempt,” he wrote.

He is correct. Name the pond Jewish Pond, everyone will be happy.

2 posted on 03/08/2012 5:46:40 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: SJackson

Hebrew Cove?


3 posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:11 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: SJackson

Jew Lake?


4 posted on 03/08/2012 5:50:26 PM PST by fhayek
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To: SJackson

Why did they call it that in the first place? Was it lucky to throw coins in?

/oh relax


5 posted on 03/08/2012 5:50:54 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SJackson

Is there a footpath through the middle of it?


6 posted on 03/08/2012 5:51:54 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: CrazyIvan

That’s funny right there, I don’t care who ya are....


7 posted on 03/08/2012 5:52:48 PM PST by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: fhayek

lol


8 posted on 03/08/2012 5:52:54 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Winstons Julia

Hey, didn’t you just post over at Faceboook?


9 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:10 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: SJackson

To be honest I find the current political correctness obsession and ultra sensitivity and objection of some to what are historic names and things from the past, as detrimental to society. That’s just my opinion and it would mean nothing regardless of the ethnic group involved. If it was called Catholic Pond or Mormon Pond or WASP Pond or Pope’s Place, who would give a hoot?

To be honest for at least 20 years I’ve viewed political correctness and the so called need to create special separate levels of crime and call them hate crime as the nemesis of America. The idea that some are special and others aren’t is non-American.

We need to get away from being overly sensitive.


10 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:55 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: apoliticalone
There are no more Jew fish. They are called Monk fish.

Still tasty after all these years.

11 posted on 03/08/2012 5:55:39 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: SJackson

More PC BS and the chronically offended yet again......Give it a break, no one else cares..


12 posted on 03/08/2012 5:55:52 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: SJackson
Removing the name "Jew" will, of course, render the pond "Judenfrei"

Judenfrei ("free of Jews") was a Nazi term to designate an area free of Jewish presence.

I don't think the locals can quite win this one ~ should have thought about it when they named the pond eh!

13 posted on 03/08/2012 5:56:02 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: All

what’s next? Guinea Road and Negro Mountain?


14 posted on 03/08/2012 5:57:50 PM PST by newnhdad (Soylent green is people..)
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To: SJackson

Not to beat a dead horse.

I wish some would name a pond after me. I wouldn’t feel that it was a slight at all. Now if it was cesspool or a septic tank, then it might be different.

Most of us would feel a sense of pride and respect to have a pond or lake named after us. I don’t get at all the reason for the “slight”.

Now we even name USN ships after living liberal female Congress people from AZ who have never served a day in uniform, and whose only claim to fame was the misfortune of getting shot by a loser constituent.


15 posted on 03/08/2012 6:02:33 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: CrazyIvan

This? No I didn’t post this at Facebook.


16 posted on 03/08/2012 6:07:11 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SJackson

Why is it always thought to be “derogatory” to name something after somebody.

Would they call them the Cleveland Indians if they despised Indians? I don’t think so.

If they want to change the name, how about Jewel Pond? A tiny bit of brightness in a drab neighborhood?


17 posted on 03/08/2012 6:07:14 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AGreatPer

I heard every one you catch has a pound of flesh.


18 posted on 03/08/2012 6:09:07 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: apoliticalone
“I wish some would name a pond after me. I wouldn’t feel that it was a slight at all.”

I have a little lake in rural Il. It is named for my grand-
father who built it. He named one of the points for a boy
that worked for him and that he put through college. He was
killed in Nam. I have continued the tradition and now have
“Brian's Bay”. “Jimmy Adamos Dam” etc. Your comment helps me
think they would appreciate the gesture.

19 posted on 03/08/2012 6:10:25 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Winstons Julia

“This? No I didn’t post this at Facebook.”

I didn’t say “this”, I just said “post”. (You been getting
into the cooking wine early tonight-)?)


20 posted on 03/08/2012 6:13:05 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Cicero
Why is it always thought to be “derogatory” to name something after somebody.

Would they call them the Cleveland Indians if they despised Indians? I don’t think so.

I've been asking that question ever since Stanford University dropped the name "Indians" in 1972. I believe the real reason behind the objection to these names is that since real "white racism" has all but vanished, liberals are looking for something to complain about.

21 posted on 03/08/2012 6:18:59 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: AGreatPer

I wonder if meat from a jewfish is halal?


22 posted on 03/08/2012 6:20:47 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: CrazyIvan

There is no greater gesture of respect than having a piece of our geography named after someone or a group. Your grandfather apparently understood the need for respect of those deserving respect and those who sacrificed. The name will be passed on in perpetuity. Obviously a thoughtful man.

It still irritates me that Giffords and this still living Congress woman from AZ who did nothing gets a USN shipped named after her. Tens of thousands of those serving deserved it why she got it only because she had cronies and clout pushing for her. These Congress loser critter pols will now all be maneuvering and dealing to get their own ship.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 6:23:52 PM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Cicero

24 posted on 03/08/2012 6:31:18 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: AGreatPer
There are no more Jew fish. They are called Monk fish.

The fish converted?

25 posted on 03/08/2012 6:37:11 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: apoliticalone

I would, but I named my pond after one of my dogs. Who liked the pond.


26 posted on 03/08/2012 6:39:30 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: Fiji Hill
Don't wonder, visit Islamiclaws.com--Common Halal and non-halal Fish .. It's OK
27 posted on 03/08/2012 6:43:41 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: Cicero

I don’t think there’s any question that the original name of the pond was meant to be derogatory. Which is no reason to erase history.


28 posted on 03/08/2012 6:45:08 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do !)
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To: CrazyIvan

Oh, I made a few posts at Facebook tonight, sure....


29 posted on 03/08/2012 7:17:34 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: CrazyIvan

There are fish in that Lake? I have a nephew coming back from Afghanistan who wants to fish.


30 posted on 03/08/2012 7:19:23 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: SJackson

I read the URL as Islam-i-claws - presumably the Islamic version of Santa Claus. I can imagine what kind of gifts he’d bring.


31 posted on 03/08/2012 7:31:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SJackson

Rename the pond oy vey!


32 posted on 03/08/2012 8:00:19 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: AGreatPer

“There are no more Jew fish. They are called Monk fish.

Still tasty after all these years.”

In FloriDUH, the Jewfish is now called the Goliath Grouper.

Critters are like a divorce lawyer, in that they move into an area and suck up all the smaller fish (lobster go first, though). Think of a fishy slurp gun that weight a half ton or more. Sometimes much more.

Oh,in FloriDUH, Jewfish are protected. We can’t hook and fillet lawyers, either.


33 posted on 03/08/2012 9:36:11 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru
Thank you for the up-date. I thouht it was some kind of grooper but wasn't certain.

Forget where I was, actually I had no clue where I was, but saw one once. Big fish.

34 posted on 03/08/2012 10:05:46 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: SJackson

How saintly can this culture get?


35 posted on 03/08/2012 10:09:05 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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