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RNCís delegate count shows Gingrich ahead of Santorum (Stand down, Rick!)
WashTimes ^ | 3-8-12 | Dinan

Posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:11 PM PST by VinL

Rick Santorum may have won more primaries but the Republican National Committee's current delegate count shows former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has more bound delegates than Mr. Santorum in the race for the party's presidential nomination.

Frontrunner Mitt Romney has earned 339 delegates to the August nominating convention in Tampa, Fla., or more than the rest of the field combined, according to a chart the RNC sent to its members on Thursday.

Mr. Gingrich is second with 107 delegates, topping Mr. Santorum's 95 delegates and the 22 delegates pledged to Rep. Ron Paul of Texas.

Winning the nomination will take 1,144 delegates.

Press reports have put Mr. Santorum in second place based on projections about how delegates will be allocated in some of the caucus states where voters have cast their ballots, but where the actual delegates won't be decided until later, at county, district and state conventions.

Delegates have yet to be fully awarded in Iowa, Colorado, North Dakota, Minnesota, Maine and Washington. Mr. Santorum won the first four of those contests, while Mr. Romney won the other two.

Mr. Santorum and Mr. Gingrich are battling to be the conservative alternative to Mr. Romney in the race, and Mr. Santorum says his victories in seven primaries and caucuses gives him a leg up.

Mr. Gingrich, meanwhile, has won just two primaries — Georgia and South Carolina. But both those states bind nearly all their delegates to support the Primary winner.

Meanwhile Mr. Santorum has notched close wins in places such as Oklahoma, where he collected 14 delegates for his victory. But the Sooner State awards its delegates proportionately and so Mr. Romney and Mr. Gingrich earned 13 delegates each, making Mr. Santorum's victory gains him almost no ground on his rivals.

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Time to take another one for the team, Rick. Should have honorably withdrawn after Fla-but hey, better late than never. -:)

Newt will rise again.

1 posted on 03/08/2012 5:47:16 PM PST by VinL
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To: VinL

I didn’t see this coming :)


2 posted on 03/08/2012 5:49:09 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: VinL
Was this a dream Newt had while he was napping?
3 posted on 03/08/2012 5:51:17 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: VinL

Glad this is seeing the light of day. Lots of “unbound” delegates so far in these primaries.

This race is still on. Go Newt!


4 posted on 03/08/2012 5:51:59 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: VinL
Mr. Gingrich is second with 107 delegates, topping Mr. Santorum's 95 delegates and the 22 delegates pledged to Rep. Ron Paul of Texas.

Oh yeah.

5 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:04 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: trappedincanuckistan

You’re not a visionary. -:)


6 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:31 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
Newt won his home state, so Santorum should drop out.

Got it.

7 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:34 PM PST by skeeter
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To: VinL

Why would Rick stand down when he’s the one winning. Part of Newt’s delegates were before his decline and then there was his home state. If Rick were to “stand down” at this point, Mittens would run away with it

Let’s be real here.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 5:53:53 PM PST by Kenny
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To: VinL

Where will the family value voters go if Rick exits???

Santorum has won states in the South, the Rockies, the Plains and the Midwest. So far Newt has had success only in the South.

If anybody is to drop out it should be Newt.


9 posted on 03/08/2012 5:55:50 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: VinL

Newt probably saw it coming.


10 posted on 03/08/2012 5:56:42 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Kenny; skeeter

Should Rick pack it in if he loses Pa????


11 posted on 03/08/2012 5:56:50 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
I didn’t see this coming :)


Newt did win the total delegate count for the states of Oklahoma, Tennessee and Georgia where he did bulk of his campaigning. A fact that is lost or ignored by many here.

12 posted on 03/08/2012 5:57:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Wow. 7 states for Rick and 2 states for Newt (home state and state next to home state). Neither one should leave.


13 posted on 03/08/2012 5:57:29 PM PST by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: VinL
Rick should pack it in if it becomes clear he cannot win.

Newt should pack it in if it becomes clear he cannot win.

14 posted on 03/08/2012 5:58:00 PM PST by skeeter
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To: proudpapa

Where will the family value voters go if Rick exits???
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Church???? -:)


15 posted on 03/08/2012 5:58:41 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Red Steel

Nobody is ignoring the fact that Newt won his home state.


16 posted on 03/08/2012 5:59:04 PM PST by skeeter
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To: VinL

Nice spin. Just because the delegates haven’t officially been awarded yet from the above mentioned states Rick won, that doesn’t mean they are not going to him. This is some more wishful thinking by the Newt people. I can find almost no other people using this scenario on where the race stands right now.


17 posted on 03/08/2012 5:59:29 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: VinL
Best Santorum keep running ~ that way the Church and Choir types will not abandon voting in the primaries. Newt can continue to pull down the Fiscal Conservatives.

That leaves Romney with the "haters".

18 posted on 03/08/2012 5:59:33 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Red Steel; VinL

UNTRUE! UNTRUE! UNTRUE!

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates

Dream On!


19 posted on 03/08/2012 6:00:23 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Glenn

Was this a dream Newt had while he was napping?
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Newt doesn’t dream when he sleeps- he has visions for America.


20 posted on 03/08/2012 6:01:04 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

No one wants to say Newt can win, they even misrepresent his total delegates.


21 posted on 03/08/2012 6:01:41 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: Glenn
Was this a dream Newt had while he was napping?

Nope.

Surprising as it may be to some folks, the fact is that on Super Tuesday, Santorum only got six more delegates than Newt did, despite winning three more primaries.

22 posted on 03/08/2012 6:04:05 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: VinL

Despite what Mark Levin said on his show yesterday (accusing Gingrich of calling for Santorum to withdraw) the only calls for withdrawal I heard was Santorum’s campaign manager calling for Gingrich to withdraw.

Santorum’s supporters are going the wrong direction in trying to get Rick’s conservative competition to quit.

I really don’t think it is in the interest of the conservative attempt to get some representation in the executive branch from the republican party this election for anybody, except maybe Romney, to stand down. JMHO.


23 posted on 03/08/2012 6:04:36 PM PST by ngat
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To: skeeter

I did not say that.

I said, Newt Gingrich won the most delegates combined, which was more than Mittens or Ricky in the states of Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Georgia.

That’s what I said, and that this fact has been ignored by the lame stream media and by the Santos.


24 posted on 03/08/2012 6:06:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ngat

Newt’s in it to win it.

Let’s face it, Sweatervest doesn’t have what it takes to win the general.


25 posted on 03/08/2012 6:06:39 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Current delegate count per the RNC. There have been a lot of contradictory articles floating around about the delegate count, but I think the RNC would have the best handle on it.

Newt is still in this.


26 posted on 03/08/2012 6:07:25 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: VinL

I think its better if they both stay in.


27 posted on 03/08/2012 6:07:44 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: napscoordinator

You are right on! I’m starting to think it is essential that both of them stay in to deny Romney the necessary delegates. And who knows? Maybe between the two of them they can knock him down a peg or two!


28 posted on 03/08/2012 6:07:44 PM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: skeeter

skeeter, I’m just having some fun on this thread. But here, I’ll answer you sincerely.

Newt can’t beat Romney one on one- neither can Rick. Romney has too much money and institutional power.

Rick and Newt only have a chance. They they stay in, and don’t campaign against each other. Instead, each attacks Romney and the Gop-e for having “fixed” this GOP primary- and they threaten to bolt the party.

The battle is grassroots against the establishment— and Rick and Newt have to make that argument together.


29 posted on 03/08/2012 6:08:12 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: Kenny

The problem is - Rick just won’t do anything. Whatever he is, he isn’t a fighter and, even if he wanted to be, he couldn’t articulate his position. The only one who can do that is Newt. He is the fighter. And we MUST have a fighter.


30 posted on 03/08/2012 6:08:49 PM PST by smalltownslick
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Not surprising, Newt has remained competitive in the south. Its everywhere else he is lacking.

He's only got a week or two to change that reality.

If he can do it, great. He's running alot of ads in CA - which may end up being a good strategy, since its not likely Santorum can win here with his social values. We'll see.

31 posted on 03/08/2012 6:09:22 PM PST by skeeter
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To: VinL; Steelfish; All; Lazlo in PA; American Constitutionalist; AmericanInTokyo
I've been trying to tell the Santorum advocates on this site for weeks that Santorum's so-called victories in his "Trifecta" meant absolutely nothing.

Of course, they simply ignored the statements.

Not one of them acknowledged the fact.

32 posted on 03/08/2012 6:10:08 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: napscoordinator

It’s about bound delegates. Not states.


33 posted on 03/08/2012 6:10:17 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: VinL
Agreed. As I've said many times, I'd be happy with either of these guys. But once it becomes clear that one is impeding the other, that one has to get out.

We're not there yet.

34 posted on 03/08/2012 6:11:30 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Kenny
" If Rick were to “stand down” at this point, Mittens would run away with it"

I seriously doubt the lamestream would center on Romney and Paul if Santorum dropped out ... just to slap Gingrich.

Newt would get more play just by the fact that "one more serious (sounding) than Paul" had left only Gingrich and Romnet speaking English .... one making logical sense and the other sort'a gibbering away.

35 posted on 03/08/2012 6:11:42 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: VinL; All
"Should Rick pack it in if he loses Pa????"

Thanks for asking that question Vin.

Santorum will not win PA.

36 posted on 03/08/2012 6:12:17 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: muawiyah

If he thinks Freddie Mac is a model organization, that we need moonbases and a federal jobs program for kids, then no- he is not a fiscal conservative


37 posted on 03/08/2012 6:12:22 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
ping

Surprising as it may be to some folks, the fact is that on Super Tuesday, Santorum only got six more delegates than Newt did, despite winning three more primaries.

38 posted on 03/08/2012 6:12:28 PM PST by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Red Steel

“A fact that is lost or ignored by many here. “

The other fact that is lost is that Newt was afraid to campaign where he was going to lose - so he’d have a ready excuse - the one you just used, actually: “well he didn’t campaign there”


39 posted on 03/08/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Steelfish
UNTRUE! UNTRUE! UNTRUE!

Nonsense Fishy. Not in the "hard delegate" count. Even on this dedicated Primary and Caucus election website that shows Ricky behind Newt:

"Hard" Delegates

Need to Nominate 1,144
(available) 1,743
W Romney 315
N Gingrich 96
R Santorum 83
Uncommitted 31
R Paul 16
J Huntsman 2
Total 2,286

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/

Dream On!

No dreaming here - you likely though.

40 posted on 03/08/2012 6:14:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish
"Dream On!"

So, the NYT is a better judge of how Republican Delegates are bound than the RNC itself?

41 posted on 03/08/2012 6:15:23 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: GeronL
then no- he is not a fiscal conservative

He also presided over balancing the federal budget and pushing through a very successful welfare reform in the face of a hostile Democrat President, which is more than either you or Rick Santorum has done.

42 posted on 03/08/2012 6:15:59 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Those “balanced budgets” still need scare quotes. Making entitlements off-budget doesn’t make them go away


43 posted on 03/08/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: smalltownslick
The problem is - Rick just won’t do anything. Whatever he is, he isn’t a fighter

Totally disagree. Rick stood on the stage with the cast of GOP stars again and again and made them pay attention. They all worked very hard to make him invisible but he just wouldn't go away like a good little Republican.

He hung in there, made his voice heard, and is still fighting. I won't say anything against Newt but Rick is passionate and determined.

44 posted on 03/08/2012 6:19:19 PM PST by Kenny
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To: smalltownslick
The problem is - Rick just won’t do anything. Whatever he is, he isn’t a fighter

Totally disagree. Rick stood on the stage with the cast of GOP stars again and again and made them pay attention. They all worked very hard to make him invisible but he just wouldn't go away like a good little Republican.

He hung in there, made his voice heard, and is still fighting. I won't say anything against Newt but Rick is passionate and determined.

45 posted on 03/08/2012 6:19:19 PM PST by Kenny
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To: VinL
No way either one of them can win outright, but together they can deny Myth an outright win.

Bring it to the convention floor. There will be millions of us right outside the door screaming for a conservative, and his name will not be Myth.

I know I will be there.

It will be 1968's Doppelganger.

46 posted on 03/08/2012 6:19:50 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: RFEngineer
The other fact that is lost is that Newt was afraid to campaign where he was going to lose - so he’d have a ready excuse - the one you just used, actually: “well he didn’t campaign there”

Funny, I didn't see Santorum campaigning much in Massachusetts, Nevada, or Vermont. Maybe he was afraid to campaign in those states, and just wanted to have a ready excuse for losing them?

47 posted on 03/08/2012 6:20:14 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Red Steel

PRIMARY: Popular Vote — Soft Pledged - Soft Unpledged – Soft Total – Hard Total

Rom: ….3,242,740, 39.20% …(314)17.36% …(72)15.09% …(386)16.89% ….(302)13.21%

Santo: 2,087,454, 25.23%/(92) 5.09%/(67)14.05%/(159) 6.96%/(79)3.46%

Ging: 1,818,548, 21.98% /107)5.91%/(13) 2.73%/(120)5.25%/(96)4.20%

Paul: ……….,927,348, 11.21% ...…(35)1.93%.......(38)7.97%......(73)3.19% …..(16)0.70%

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/R

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Gingrich Senior Advisor Randy Evans Explains Delegate Math

http://youtu.be/mAWj6r9VOqE


48 posted on 03/08/2012 6:20:20 PM PST by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: VinL

Out NOW, Father Ricky.


49 posted on 03/08/2012 6:20:32 PM PST by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: GeronL

They’re still better than anything you or Santorum have done...


50 posted on 03/08/2012 6:21:39 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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