Santorum loved Romney in 2008. These days, not so much
Posted on 03/08/2012 6:40:29 PM PST by VinL
So much for conservatives uniting ahead of Alabama and Mississippi.
Newt Gingrich's team just came out with what I believe is its first sharp hit against Rick Santorum of the campaign, a video montage of the former Pennsylvania senator talking earmarks, endorsing Mitt Romney in the 2008 presidential race and taking "one for the team," as he memorably put it in the final GOP debate in Arizona last month.
If the lines of attack seem familiar, it's because Team Romney - the campaign Gingrich has said he wants to thwart - has been using them against Santorum for weeks.
It's Gingrich's last stand at wooing conservative Southern voters to his side ahead of the Alabama and Mississippi primaries next week, contests that his aide RC Hammond said yesterday he needs to fare well in to justify moving on.
And while there have been some indications of a campaign in the last stages in Newtworld, it doesn't seem that the end will come before Tuesday. The only question is how much damage Santorum incurs in the process.
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
Sorry, ad at link.
So Newt was lying when he said he was running a positive campaign figures.
Romney’s stalking horse clearing the field. Good job Newt, good job. /sarc
ping
Looks like the “positive” Newt campagin was BS.
That’s Newt.
FLASHBACK- JANUARY 31, 2012–
BACKGROUND: NEWT Lost FLA- but still leading nationally: Rick loses in NH, SC, FLA, and soon, nev- . Did he bow out with honor?
No, just the opposite. Instead, of competing with Newt in the arena of ideas, Rick went “romney”- he back-stabbed his mentor and fellow conservative. From FR:
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“Rick Santorum’s presidential campaign announced a new television ad that will begin airing Tuesday in Colorado and Nevada.
The ad attacks Newt Gingrich as being too liberal for the GOP nomination by arguing that he shares many policy positions with President Obama and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). “All three supported radical cap and trade legislation that would destroy American jobs and drive up energy costs. All three supported giving illegal aliens some form of amnesty. All three sported the government health mandates which take away our freedom and is the core of ObamaCare. And all three of these politician’s supported the Wall Street bailouts that was a slap in the face to the Tea Party,” the narrator says.
It goes on to refer to the trio as “cap and trade loving, bailout supporting, soft on immigration, big-government mandating politicians.” The commercial is a sharp indictment of Gingrich, with whom Santorum has split more conservative voters in early primary contests.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2840754/posts
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Rick set the rules on how one deals with fellow conservatives– now he has to play by them. You reap what you sow— Rick’s a man of God, he understands that.
Where were you when santorum rode into town on romney’s attacks on Newt?
Sorry to hear this. I think Newt can only help Newt by being the ‘big ideas’ guy. This just damages both men.
I have to email this to friends.
Newt is on Greta tonight!
Heavily edited and long.
I don’t see this as being effective for Gingrich or for those of us who would gladly accept either candidate over Romney.
Given the position Gingrich has taken regarding negative adds, this might boomerang against his campaign.
Yep! I've wondered for a while why all that cash was still pouring into Newt's campaign. Guess that mystery's solved.
The Santorum folks are just too funny on this one.
Can someone post a photo of a baby’s bottle. Just playing..
Gingrich ‘Deeply Upset’ That Scozzafava Endorsed Democrat After He’d Supported Her (ROFL)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2376848/posts
Newt: “I am, however, deeply dissapointed that she has chosen to back Owens over Hoffman.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2376172/posts
Jarrett: Dems want Scozzafava nod (Newt? Newt?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2375959/posts
Right To Work Prez Calls Out Newt’s Hypocrisy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2375483/posts
Group Calls on Gingrich to Rescind Endorsement of Scozzafava
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2374566/posts
Who Lied to (RINO) Newt Gingrich?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2373633/posts
Newt Gingrich - “King of the RINOs”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2373107/posts
Gingrich: A Vote for Hoffman Is a Vote for Pelosi
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2373068/posts
Farewell To GOP’s Squishy Gingrich Wing
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2372160/posts
Are you kidding me?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2372078/posts
Gingrich calls GOP support for Hoffman a ‘purge’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2371959/posts
Newt on Greta talking about Scozzafava
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2371587/posts
Newt Gingrich: Doug Hoffman support a ‘mistake’
FUMR
So what is with “hands off Rick?). Is he above criticism or are these racist attacks?
Yes, after $20+ million dollars in Myth lying attack ads. Santo then jumped on Newt with negative ads a day (Feb 1st) after the Florida Primary.
Newt’s money man expects Romney to be the nominee but he still keeps dumping money on Gingrich.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2846572/posts
Here’s a fun one.
Ethanol Subsidies, Newt Gingrich, and the 2012 Election
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2669660/posts
just for bonus points.
Gingrich, Backed By Ethanol Lobby, Supports Subsidy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818113/posts
Newt endorsed Romney in 2008? Was that worse than endorsing Dede Scozzafava?
When the 2008 campaign started, quite a few Freepers favored Romney. He was a businessman, he fixed the Salt Lake City Olympics, he was a real conservative.
I remember arguing for months about that. And you can’t entirely blame people, because the truth only came out little by little.
Romney saved the Olympics? Yeah, with a huge barrel of pork from Washington.
Romney was pro-life and pro-family? Yeah, that’s why he was the guy who imposed gay marriage on Massachusetts when even the liberals in the State legislature hesitated to do so.
And he was the guy who put a member of Planned Parenthood as a permanent member of the Romneycare Board.
And he was the guy who ran on a plank that was pro-abort, although in 2008 he was saying that he had always been pro-life.
But people didn’t KNOW these things, until we dug in past the media lies and the Romney lies and figured out what he actually stood for.
Rick Santorum was very strongly pro-life, and he never would have endorsed Romney if he hadn’t believed his lies—as many people did, until they got to know him better over the months of the campaign. They certainly weren’t told by Romney, the Media, or the RNC.
That’s pretty good.
Though in my opinion Perry has had the best ads of the primary thus far. They were uber. :p
I LOVE this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8EL5Atp_vF0
Santorum Touts Work With Barbara Boxer, Hillary Clinton In 2006 Ad
Blind Jealots or plants not sure which.
Funny, from your FR link:
“If Mr. Gingrich could afford to continue campaigning, one of those people said, he might be able to draw off conservative and evangelical voters from Mr. Santorum, improving the chances of Mitt Romney, who Mr. Adelson believes has a better chance to win November’s general election.”
“Sheldon says we all have to keep our eyes on the goal here—beating Obama,” said a person who talked with Mr. Adelson.
FUMR!
Kinda odd way to have a good time, but to each dey own.
Nice try.
Santorum never attacked Newt on anything that Romney attacked Newt on. You know why? Because Romney and Newt had the Same Position! TARP, Climate Change, and Support for the Individual Mandate. Those have been the 3 Consistent items Santorum has gone after BOTH on. Romney went after Newt on ethics charges.
Once again, a double standard though. Gingrich says he is going to campaign “positively” and the Gingrich people write this ad off. Which means they obviously can’t complain about any of the tactics Romney used to take Newt down in Florida. Because it’s the same tactic going on here with Newt trying to take down Rick.
Speaking of mistakes.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPuhr8eqn0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ44xpfSsFY
Santorum loved Romney in 2008. These days, not so much
No No No, it’s simpler than that.
The reason many people supported Romney in 2008 (and something Romney played off of) was that the base and many conservatives hated (I mean despised) John McCain. Romney used this to his advantage and tried to position himself accordingly, as the “true” conservative alternative, even though his record suggested otherwise. People didn’t care though, they just flat out hated McCain.
This is essentially what Newt is trying to do this time around in 2012. He was grouped in with the rest of the RINO’s, but because of the sheer hatred of Romney, Newt is looked at as pure as the white driven snow, which most people know is BS.
As for Santorum in 2008, it was clear he absolutely did not get along with Mr. Gang of 14 in the Senate, who also used the “F” word to John Cornyn when he “parachuted” into the Senate to take control of the immigration issue. If it’s a choice between Romney and McCain, to Santorum, it was a no-brainer.
“...this might boomerang against his campaign.”
Bull.
An, boo-hoo!
True, this damages them both. And we can anticipate a return volley with Santorum &/or Mitt utilizing the big flubs Gingrich had (think Pelosi and Global warming, Scozzofava etc). In the end, I prefer the candidates vet each other rather than live the election results of ‘08.
Right, it is Santorum talking about Santorum.
If Newt really wanted to win the nomination, he'd be going after Romney. The only way it makes sense to go after Rick is if he wants Romney to win.
Plain facts, Romney has the numbers and is the only one at the moment in danger of actually closing the deal. Both anti-Romneys should be trying to stop Romney. There's no excuse for this trash especially at this point in time.
Hopefully, not enough to let Romney win.
You are very wrong. Your “just plain facts” are just plain wrong. And I really don’t care to hear anything from the folks whose guy has shamelessly attacked Newt for many weeks.
Yeah, I noticed that too. They have selected memory.
Selective blindness is unbecoming. A lying attack is a lying attack and I don’t care where it comes from. And santorum piled on Gingrich when there was NO NEED for him to. AND he did it on a debate stage out of left field. Even after that, Newt has refrained from attacking santorum until now. And you don’t approve? Like Sarah said. Boo effing hoo.
Is HE lying about santorum like santorum did about him? No. He could say much worse and I know it because I worked for santorum. So take your holier than thou and give it a rest.
Only because they hadn't posted the polls covering January 31st yet:
RCP Poll Average, 1/27/2012: Gingrich 31, Romney 27
RCP Poll Average, 2/3/2012: Romney 29.6, Gingrich 26.8
But if you want to pretend that a small ad buy for Colorado and Nevada (two states Gingrich dismissed as being ones nobody cared about), go right ahead.
Gingrich was collapsing in the polls before Florida. Most conservatives saw that, and those who were more interested in conservatives winning than Newt surviving knew we needed a different candidate for February.
By 2/7, Gingrich had collapsed so thoroughly that he came in 4th in Minnesota, and 3rd in Colorado.
By January 31st, Newt had lost Iowa, New Hampshire, and Florida, and soon Nevada, Colorado, Minnesota, Michigan, Arizona, and Maine. Did he bow out? Of course not.
It would certainly have been better if Newt hadn't managed to be found on tape supporting so many unfavorable positions. But that's what we were left with by the time the primaries actually started.
“Oh, boo-hoo”
“Asked about Rick Santorum’s contention that Gingrich is dividing the conservative, anti-Romney vote, Palin dismissed the complaint. “Oh, boo-hoo,” she said.”
“Oh, boo-hoo” “Oh, boo-hoo” “Oh, boo-hoo” “Oh, boo-hoo”
** President Newt Gingrich-”Our beloved republic deserves nothing less.”
Both...
Thanks for some factual information on this whacked-out thread.
None of the Santorum supporters have acted “holier-than-though”. If anyone has elevated a candidate to Jesus-like status, it’s you Newtbots.
Let’s cut the crap with this “lying” BS. Santorum RIGHTFULLY pointed out that BOTH Romney and Newt supported TARP, Climate Change, and the Individual Mandate. It’s a FACT. Santorum brought it up in a closing remark at one of the FL debates to REMIND people that a CLEAR CONTRAST needs to be defined between the eventual GOP nominee and OBAMA. And he is RIGHT and was TECHNICALLY CORRECT with his statement. Just like Michele Bachmann was correct when she outed Newt as a Big Tent Republican.
Oh, and around that time, Newt was referring to Santorum as a “lightweight” who was “in over his head”, so cut the refraining from attacking Rick” bullcrap
And unless you can provide some actual proof, I highly doubt you have any serious connections to Santorum or have ever met the man.
Gingrich ran Robocalls against Santorum in Georgia. So this isn’t his first attack.
And Santorum spoke against Newt back in the middle of January. His ads in February weren’t his first attack on Gingrich.
I can’t fathom why people think candidates shouldn’t attack each other on their respective records. Santorum did some dumb things, and Gingrich wants to win, so he’s going to point them out. Santorum wanted to beat Romney, so he did what he thought was best, which was to try to take Newt’s place as the conservative alternative.
It’s up to the voters to do the game-playing, not the candidates. We are the ones who should vote smart. We shouldn’t expect the candidates to try to lose elections. The candidates certainly won’t take that advice. If a candidate skips a state, it’s because they know they can’t win, not because they are “trying to give the other guy a chance”.
You might not have noticed...but I did not attack santorum. Save the whine. It goes great with cheese.
As for the rest, you know what assume means?
I did not attack you personally. Didn’t call you a liar. But you have seen fit to do both to me. See ya.
Did Newt lie about something?
What’s your point?
The objection by some was that Newt had gone negative- and the reply was that Rick went first- as documented.
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