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Arpaio investigation: Obama might be Kenyan: Records that could document status mysteriously missing
wnd ^ | 3/8/12 | staff

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:14:04 PM PST by Nachum

Among the records missing for Barack Obama that would be available for an ordinary president are passport records, school records such as those from Punahou, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Harvard Law Review writings, scholarly articles for the University of Chicago, state bar association records from Illinois, Illinois state senate records, the marriage and divorce documents for his mother, his adoption records and others.

Now it has been revealed that the Cold Case Posse assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii.

The reason? Missing records.

Speculation has held that Obama actually was born in Kenya, and as the son of an American woman and Kenyan father, probably would not have been considered under any circumstances to be a “natural born citizen” of America, as the Constitution demands for presidents.

It’s been revealed that the Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results.

Now Arpaio’s team, which was assembled to work on a volunteer basis after hundreds of constituents expressed fear that Obama was having his name put on the 2012 election ballot in Arizona using a fraudulent document, has reported that it checked to determine whether a young mother arrived in the United States from Kenya in the days after Obama’s reported Aug. 4, 1961, birth date.

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1 posted on 03/08/2012 10:14:07 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

“cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a...”

What an idiotic statement.

I cannot prove yet whether whoever came up with this line ever never had an improper education.


2 posted on 03/08/2012 10:22:07 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Nachum

Everything is missing but its no big deal.Move on nothing to see here.RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIght.


3 posted on 03/08/2012 10:30:03 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Nachum

“Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results. “

When Corsi went to Kenya for investigative research on information concerning Bath-House Barry’s birthplace, the Kenyan govt held him for a time. (probably waiting for “instructions” from the DNC.)


4 posted on 03/08/2012 10:32:16 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Mortrey

I remember when Corsi went to Kenya, but IIRC, they gave him a hard time.

My big question is why Obumber does not let Kapiolani
release his birth records. It seems like that would solve the whole issue, but as most of us suspect, he was NOT born there.


5 posted on 03/08/2012 10:36:57 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Nachum
For what it's worth, a close look at 0bama's 'green bc' reveals that Ann Dunham's signature was modified at some point. The 'D' in Dunham is different than the rest of her name, including '0bama'. To illustrate the errant pixel change, the 'Dun' portion of her name is shown here:

In order to convincingly add '0bama' to Ann Dunham's signature, the 'unham 0bama' portion was modified so as to make it believable. Adding only '0bama' would be a bit too obvious.

Changing 'Ann Dunham' to 'Ann Dunham 0bama' would indicate that Ann was not married when Barack Jr. was born. More interestingly, Barack Jr. looks NOTHING like his alleged father Barack Sr.

6 posted on 03/08/2012 10:41:58 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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7 posted on 03/08/2012 10:44:02 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Nachum

It does not matter if he was born in Hawaii or Kenya, either way, he is not a “natural born” citizen.


8 posted on 03/08/2012 10:45:48 PM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: AlexW

There are so many anomalies, it’s tough to keep track of them all. For example, the hospital name shown on his bc wasn’t even the name that was used for that hospital back in 1961.


9 posted on 03/08/2012 10:48:32 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Nachum

Ask any African...”He born n Kenya”. The coconut telegraph works real good there.

Also, right before elections, all muslim money traders had pictures of their candidate in his muslim regalia. They had already vetted their man.

Why didn’t our own medias present the pictures?


10 posted on 03/08/2012 10:56:41 PM PST by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

“the hospital name shown on his bc wasn’t even the name that was used for that hospital back in 1961.”
______________________________________

Yes, I have heard that.
I also remember seeing, online, a copy of a supposed letter
that Obumber sent to Kapiolani, but for some reason was recalled or denied, after the fact.


12 posted on 03/08/2012 11:01:07 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Michael.SF.
Keep reminding people Michael. While I too believe the birth issue is an intentional distraction, a red herring, just as Chester Arthur hid his birth certificate to distract from questions about his, Arthur's father, who was a British subject, Baraka is playing games to distract from the real issue. This is a particularly slick con job because Baraka told everyone he was not a natural born citizen. He said “I am a native born citizen of the U.S.” Who in 2008 knew the precise legal language of the 14th Amendment? Who other than legal scholars understood that the 14th Amendment only created naturalized citizens?

That is why Obama troops are trying to conflate native born with natural born. They are separate classes, clearly delineated by 14th Amendment author John Binghim, who is careful never to include the phrase ‘natural born citizen’ in the wording of the amendment.

Baraka (the first name he chose to use for the poster advertising the Alinsky play and panel discussion) told us the he was a naturalized citizen on Fightthesmears.com. He is letting the press redirect attention to digital representations of certificates of live birth and whatever other nonsense they come up with. Their techniques are right out of Rules for Radicals, disparaging questions about foreign birth, calling people names, disparaging their intelligence. Again, Baraka has never claimed to be a natural born citizen. Nancy Pelosi may have signed a form claiming natural born citizenship, but even that was lawyer-ed up; there appear to have been two forms provided to the State of Hawaii, one with NBC, one without.

13 posted on 03/08/2012 11:21:52 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Nachum

“If...........,you MIGHT be a Kenyan!”


14 posted on 03/08/2012 11:31:37 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Romney and Obama and elites licking chops over their successful "divide and conquer" strategy)
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To: Nachum

Bump


15 posted on 03/08/2012 11:32:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo ("If your front porch collapses...and more than 4 dogs die.... you MIGHT be a REDNECK!" ;-))
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To: Nachum
Zer0's train wreck rolls on (as planned).

HOPE-WRECK1

Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 317 days as of March 9, 2012.

16 posted on 03/09/2012 12:18:42 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Nachum
The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

17 posted on 03/09/2012 12:58:15 AM PST by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Usagi_yo

Why are so many of his documents missing?


18 posted on 03/09/2012 1:04:51 AM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Brown Deer

Another Zombie is walking amongst us. Tap Tap. Zot Zot.


19 posted on 03/09/2012 1:07:41 AM PST by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Nachum

lots of effort into obfuscating the birth certificate... keeps everyone from asking the real question

exactly HOW can a a person that is an American citizen and British by descent at birth be a natural born citizen?

It’s simply not possible. ‘Natural born citizen’ means a citizen that, upon their birth, can ONLY BE an American as there are no alternatives. This is why the founders changed the language from ‘citizen’ to ‘natural born citizen’. Their intention was to insure no one with split loyalties at birth could assume the office.

We have an election coming up in November and they are allowing someone on the ballot that is Constitutionally ineligible to assume office.

where’s the outrage?


20 posted on 03/09/2012 1:14:24 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Nachum
However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said

So how unusual is this? Are there other gaps in the reels? If not, this would be a smoking gun impossible for Zero's enablers to explain away. We need to know how abnormal and statistically significant this gap is.

22 posted on 03/09/2012 2:20:43 AM PST by omniscient
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To: Nachum

From what I’ve been able to research, the bottom line is that Obama isn’t a Natural Born citizen. However, since the powers that be (the press, the DNC, Court judges, Congresscritters from both parties, the military leaders, etc.) have decided to ignore it, it really is a dead issue.

I don’t, for a moment believe Obama is behind the obfuscation of this. He is now, and forever has been an empty suit, a manipulated puppet (muppet?) for other people.

Regardless of that, he is still dangerous, but I think that part of the thinking of some of the people in power is that they think America or their specific organizations are too powerful to be taken over or damaged by ignoring “one” problem with “one” president. They are wrong and America will suffer forever because of this arrogance and ignorance. No nation (except for maybe Israel) will last forever. Unfortunately people have for too long assumed that America and the Freedom she protects will go on forever. Freedom was not easily won and once it’s gone, it won’t be easily re-won.


23 posted on 03/09/2012 2:35:49 AM PST by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Also, the handwritten 9 in Fathers Race and Fathers Occupation are the statics encoding of ‘not stated’.

I believe the document originally filled out was delayed and did not include a father at all.

But I am not a fan of the Kenyan birth scenario. The logistics are too complex for the time period. The two individuals never were in a serious husband-wife relationship and there, thus far, has been not records to indicate Obama Senior ever left the US in 1961 or in between 1959-1964.

Sometimes you have to wonder if Kenya is a planted story to create confusion.


24 posted on 03/09/2012 4:09:19 AM PST by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Nachum

Sheriff Joe should make a call to MI6 in London.
And another to Pravda which some poo paw as being a Soviet rag actually does have some very good reporting.

Last but not least that is if he can find the right person who will accept his call is the Mossad.

Its useless trying to investigate using Google or Wiki as they have been “sanitized”.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 4:15:14 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Nachum

No proof he wasn’t born on Mars of Romulan parents.


26 posted on 03/09/2012 4:44:01 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: omniscient

It’s already been reported there are no gaps in the +/- 10 years that were looked at. So it would be highly unusual, in fact near certain proof that a coverup has occurred.

But glad to see you asking the question. Apparently the investigators are pretty smart for they not only asked the question but also answered it.

These reports are disturbing but not surprising. The real culprit that we know too well is the MSM.

Having a relative who is a reporter for a MSM financial newspaper, I am told the reporters are put into compartmentalized boxes for what they can and can’t pursue as news stories, Their editors control them tightly. So it would be true then that a relatively few people control the message. Those that are not under control tend to report things that we as conservatives read because we are suspicious of MSM whitewashing of news; and these uncontrolled reporters are viewed with contempt by MSM and their surrogate pundits.

In my reading of Pope John Paul II and the news press of communist Poland, exactly the same tactics were used then.

In my reading of the global warming hoax, an English professor writes that the propaganda organ of the IPCC was established after the fall of the Soviet Union when more than 50,000 reporters and intelligentsia emigrated to Western Europe and New York for lack of work in the new Russian Confederation. They were trained in communism and propaganda.

I don’t think it is a stretch to infer that press editors who are members of the gay mafia here in the USA also hired educated gay leftists from the collapsed USSR who were looking for work. In fact, I have observed cases like this first hand and don’t think such cases are isolated. I know gays adhere to each other in their ideology and perspectives. I know they hire each other, protect each other and are secretive about it.

What it would take to confirm my suspicions is an investigation by infiltrating the ranks of the MSM and then reporting secretly back to an outside party. But I think this would be dangerous and at my age I would not be able to do it.


27 posted on 03/09/2012 5:30:21 AM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Nachum
With the revelations of Obama following of Bell, and the effort to hide it during 2008, his Harvard writings were probably full of Bells philosophies and racism, hate for unjust America.
28 posted on 03/09/2012 5:32:47 AM PST by opentalk
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To: himno hero

Exactly.

I’ve always thought the most logical possibility is, he was born in Kenya.

Exactly as Kenyans say he was.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 5:33:32 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Nachum

Something else to this story, right after baraq became president, several members of his staff made multiple trips to Kenya. His media reported the trips but with the least amount of detail needed. Rahm emmanuel was in Kenya several times early on in this goof’s reign.

NO curiousity from their media at all.


30 posted on 03/09/2012 5:36:20 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Nachum

This line of investigation failed more than two years ago, why resurrect it now?


31 posted on 03/09/2012 5:38:09 AM PST by Kleon
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To: Nachum
Globe: Obama Presidency Illegal!


32 posted on 03/09/2012 5:49:58 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Eye of Unk

I read a quote (IIRC a direct quote but it’s been a lot of days with a lot of threads) in which Arpaio said his posse had traveled “internationally”.


33 posted on 03/09/2012 5:55:30 AM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: AlexW
My big question is why Obumber does not let Kapiolani release his birth records. It seems like that would solve the whole issue, but as most of us suspect, he was NOT born there.

Hospitals don't keep medical records forever. Even assuming Obama was born there, it's unlikely that Kapiolani would even still have those records.

34 posted on 03/09/2012 5:58:25 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Nachum

sfl


35 posted on 03/09/2012 6:03:39 AM PST by know-the-law
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To: Nachum
The money quote:
Microfilm records of INS cards for passengers arriving in Honolulu on foreign files originating around the Pacific rim in 1961 have been examined at the National Archives in Washington, D.C.”

The microfilms that were found for the time period include “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 184, INA records from July 28, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961″ and “NARA Record Group A3573, Reel 185, INA records from Aug. 8, 1961 through Aug. 12, 1961.”

However, “Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 – Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185, or any other microfilm reel in the record group,” the report said.

“The National Archives confirmed in a letter written on National Archives stationary that the INS records for foreign flights arriving in Hawaii during the week of Obama’s birth were missing, not only on the microfilm reels examined, but also in the primary database itself,” the report said.

I do not believe anything was mentioned about records missing from a database during the Arpaio presentation. This supposed missing data strikes me as a bit odd. Anyone who had access to the database to delete things could have deleted or modified only a record potentially damaging to Obama rather than deleting an entire week's worth of information.

ML/NJ

36 posted on 03/09/2012 6:08:55 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Spaulding

Spaulding-
For a while, I believed that Barry was intentionally letting the BC speculation go on and on, as a diversion from the true “2 citizen parents” NBC issue. However, now I’m convinced that he fails to qualify for NBC on both counts: juis solis and juis sangris.

Fraud and forgery crimes have been committed with the doc that as released. I cant see someone playing a red herring game to that risk- level. Thoughts?

By the way- thank you for all of your incredibly thoughtful posts. Your insight is hugely appreciated, and your writing is peerless in my opinion.


37 posted on 03/09/2012 6:42:25 AM PST by mills044 (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: ml/nj
I do not believe anything was mentioned about records missing from a database during the Arpaio presentation. This supposed missing data strikes me as a bit odd. Anyone who had access to the database to delete things could have deleted or modified only a record potentially damaging to Obama rather than deleting an entire week's worth of information.

Very clever if you think about it. Delete a week and there is nothing to compare. Delete one entry and you can compare it to entries before and after. If you change one record you can compare it to other records in the string. If you delete one week there is no way you can compare anything. Very clever.

38 posted on 03/09/2012 6:43:39 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Nachum
Hey Joey...

Non-WND believers cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Uranus.

39 posted on 03/09/2012 6:44:48 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Spaulding

What is very troubling is the willingness of people in power to go along with this farce.


40 posted on 03/09/2012 7:02:24 AM PST by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: AlexW; FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Feds:”“the hospital name shown on his bc wasn’t even the name that was used for that hospital back in 1961.”

I’ve heard that too but I thought I had seen other LFBC examples from HI that showed the same hospital name as that on Obama’s. So I’m not sure that is a legitimate claim...


41 posted on 03/09/2012 7:21:50 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Nachum

bfl


42 posted on 03/09/2012 7:29:46 AM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: bluecat6

The violation of oath to the Constitution has reached such a level that even if a birth record from a different country were presented as evidence, this fraudulent democrat operative will be protect ... and the demise of a handful of people at this point, in protecting barry the bassturd boy dunham shows this batch of criminals are not going to relinquish their power to feckless wimps. The rule of law is effectively over. We The People are a ruled bunch who have allowed a federal oligarchy to take over. panetta spilled those beans without batting an eye while doing it. And the Congress now run by feckless republicans have proven they don’t even get it when it’s spelled out for them in hearings!


43 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:09 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Usagi_yo

He’s trying to prove the negative that he was NOT born in Africa. When you cannot do that what do you get? A double negative. It’s not idiotic. Maybe less than desirable grammar but what can you do when there is no paper trail on our ‘leader’?


44 posted on 03/09/2012 7:31:55 AM PST by greenhornet68
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To: Tex-Con-Man
We can confirm that half a million men born in 1960 and 1961 mailed there Selective Service registration cards in with a postal date stamp of 1980, and that Obama was the only guy in America with a date stamp of 80.

We can also confirm that Obama’s registration was not on-line until fall of 2008, unlike the other 500,000 men born in 1960 - 1961.

Therefore, we must acknowledge that our president is a fraudulent POS who peddles forged documents.

45 posted on 03/09/2012 7:41:33 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: ml/nj
I do not believe anything was mentioned about records missing from a database during the Arpaio presentation. This supposed missing data strikes me as a bit odd. Anyone who had access to the database to delete things could have deleted or modified only a record potentially damaging to Obama rather than deleting an entire week's worth of information.

I seem to recall Sandy Berger stuffing documents down his pants. People who do such things aren't always efficent. If someone messed with the flight records microfilms, they may have had to delete more than one record and just took out a chunk for convenience or out of sloppiness.

46 posted on 03/09/2012 7:43:17 AM PST by edge919
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To: ml/nj

Data base must have back up files.


47 posted on 03/09/2012 7:59:56 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yeh all the previous presidents sealed their records by executive order on day one in the whitehouse. Not.


48 posted on 03/09/2012 8:02:45 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: edge919

ABC-Berger has acknowledged being sloppy. NBC-He was sloppy. CNN-Sloppy.


49 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:46 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Usagi_yo
"It’s not the subject that I’m talking about. It’s the actual sentence. It’s like if I were to say: “I cannot prove that you havn’t ever masturbated to bestiality porn”."

But that is the subject. It's precisely the kind of argument this peice makes, and is a typical birther style argument.

50 posted on 03/09/2012 8:12:01 AM PST by mlo
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