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Arpaio investigation: Obama might be Kenyan: Records that could document status mysteriously missing
wnd ^ | 3/8/12 | staff

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:14:04 PM PST by Nachum

Among the records missing for Barack Obama that would be available for an ordinary president are passport records, school records such as those from Punahou, Occidental, Columbia and Harvard, Harvard Law Review writings, scholarly articles for the University of Chicago, state bar association records from Illinois, Illinois state senate records, the marriage and divorce documents for his mother, his adoption records and others.

Now it has been revealed that the Cold Case Posse assembled by Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Maricopa County, Ariz., cannot confirm yet that Obama was not born in Kenya and brought to the United States as a days-old infant for his birth to be registered in Hawaii.

The reason? Missing records.

Speculation has held that Obama actually was born in Kenya, and as the son of an American woman and Kenyan father, probably would not have been considered under any circumstances to be a “natural born citizen” of America, as the Constitution demands for presidents.

It’s been revealed that the Kenyan government actually investigated that possibility earlier, without conclusive results.

Now Arpaio’s team, which was assembled to work on a volunteer basis after hundreds of constituents expressed fear that Obama was having his name put on the 2012 election ballot in Arizona using a fraudulent document, has reported that it checked to determine whether a young mother arrived in the United States from Kenya in the days after Obama’s reported Aug. 4, 1961, birth date.

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KEYWORDS: arpaio; certifigate; investigation; kenyan; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Yeh all the previous presidents sealed their records by executive order on day one in the whitehouse. Not.

I assume you're talking about Executive Order 13489, which was limited to records produced by the White House during the Presidents term. It had nothing to do with the President's birth or school records, as those are already protected by existing privacy laws.

This is nothing out of the ordinary; it's been standard practice for every President since Reagan.

51 posted on 03/09/2012 8:31:40 AM PST by Kleon
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To: ASA Vet

Vet:”The Diversion Continues.”

I would say this is a battle that can be fought on multiple fronts.

I don’t contest that Obama is NOT a NBC based on his Kenyan father, but the fact that he is also complicit in two forgeries is probably easier to bring to court. And our legal interpretations of forgery are much more resolved in the courts than the NBC issue.

In other words, being on the right side of things does not necessarily result in success. Our judicial system has shown this to be true on many instances.

Besides, the voting public has less understanding of the NBC issue because it involves actual deductive reasoning. Yet they understand the concepts of forgery and deception quite well.


52 posted on 03/09/2012 8:43:14 AM PST by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Hospitals don't keep medical records forever.

But surely they would keep birth records indefinitely, at least the probably lifetime of the person.

53 posted on 03/09/2012 9:02:02 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Albion Wilde

Why would a hospital treat “birth records” differently from any other kind of medical records, for records-retention purposes? Hospitals aren’t a repository for birth records, the department of health is. Retaining 50+ years of records would be prohibitively costly; especially medical records, which tend to be volumonous and even more costly to retain (due to medical privacy/security issues).


54 posted on 03/09/2012 9:11:36 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: opentalk

That’s the best news I have seen in a long time. Celine Dion will never sing again.


55 posted on 03/09/2012 9:19:46 AM PST by jarofants
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Because medical issues tend to be transitory in comparison to the establishment by birth of a human life.


56 posted on 03/09/2012 9:27:27 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Albion Wilde

Again, hospitals are not repositories of birth records. Records concerning each birth are maintained by the department of health (or whatever it is called in your jurisdiction). The hospital records are not memorializations of the birth itself, but rather records related to medical care given before, during, and after birth. They are treated no differently than any other medical records, and would almost certianly not be retained after 50+ years.


57 posted on 03/09/2012 10:24:30 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Nachum

They’ll never find documentation of where Obama truly came from. Doubt they keep good records in Hell.


58 posted on 03/09/2012 10:31:45 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Don't blame me; I voted for the American.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
For example, the hospital name shown on his bc wasn’t even the name that was used for that hospital back in 1961.

Yes it was.


59 posted on 03/09/2012 11:02:58 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: bluecat6
It's also interesting that the penciled-in numbers, especially the "2" matches 0bama's handwritten "2" as shown here when he wrote the wrong year down when in Britain

60 posted on 03/09/2012 11:20:46 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: cynwoody
I'm not so sure the "Nordyke" bc isn't part of this charade. 0bama would need corroborating 'correct' examples, right? Can you PLEASE explain why the address on the bc you've shown is different than 0bama's bc even though they're FOR THE SAME HOSPITAL???.. Compare the addresses! The same person entered the date by hand for the mother, so why are the addresses different?


61 posted on 03/09/2012 11:38:31 AM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Kleon

It didn’t fail, it was sabotaged.


62 posted on 03/09/2012 12:13:20 PM PST by Josephat
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Can you PLEASE explain why the address on the bc you've shown is different than 0bama's bc even though they're FOR THE SAME HOSPITAL???..

Duh! Neither BC lists an address for the hospital.


63 posted on 03/09/2012 12:28:45 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Ooops. My apologies. I promise to always wear my glasses. LOL Perhaps I am just paranoid because I know the bc is fake. Sheriff Arpaio’s press conference really nailed it with highly-detailed analysis. That’s the problem, though.. the American public doesn’t want to deal with the finite details. What is your opinion of 0bama’s bc?


64 posted on 03/09/2012 12:43:28 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: cynwoody

P.S. Look at the rubber stamp at the bottom of the bc.. “THE” is spelled “TXE” and incredibly, the “A” in ‘Alvin’ has a smiley face in it. If you look at a better copy of 0bama’s bc you can more clearly see it.


65 posted on 03/09/2012 12:47:44 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: cynwoody

Here’s a higher resolution image of the bc: http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/obamabirthcetgrab.jpg


66 posted on 03/09/2012 12:52:19 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: TigersEye
"Why are so many of his documents missing?"

Because one of his very first Executive Orders required that they be made unavailable...

67 posted on 03/09/2012 2:20:53 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Antialiased grayscale versus B&W binary bitmap — in the same word...


68 posted on 03/09/2012 2:23:45 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA
LOL Well, yes, that's one reason. I think a number of things went missing even before he took office IIRC.

"Nothing to see here folks, just move along. The nice black man with big ears just doesn't have a past. Nothing to see, keep the line moving..."

69 posted on 03/09/2012 2:33:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TXnMA
Antialiased grayscale versus B&W binary bitmap — in the same word...

Oh, c'mon you crazy birthers. Every copy machine does that if you push the OTT (obscure the truth) button. Everyone knows that the OTT function is default on all government copiers. :-)

70 posted on 03/09/2012 2:36:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TXnMA

Especially in Ann Dunham’s signature.. They found a sneaky way to add “0bama” into her signature.


71 posted on 03/09/2012 2:43:57 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Nachum

son of a white American mother and a black African father

72 posted on 03/09/2012 2:54:13 PM PST by Walmartian (An update is available for this tagline. Click here to download.)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Sheriff Arpaio’s press conference really nailed it with highly-detailed analysis.

The Sheriff has been duped by the quacks from World Nut Daily. His case rests largely on those Photoshop layers found in the PDF the White House released. However, as this old video shows, those bizarre layers are just what you get when you scan an old BC and save it as an optimized PDF (you can also read about it here).

In any case, there isn't any point in the WH releasing a materially altered version of the document, since the original remains on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and could be produced if this thing ever comes to a head in court.

On the other hand, releasing a true but suspicion-arousing version (or failing to respond to birther complaints by releasing a 600-dpi flat scan) has the advantage of keeping the whole thing alive. As any well-trained community organizer knows, it helps to keep your opponents looking ridiculous and barking up wrong trees. That's why it took him until last April to release his long form — he only did so when Donald Trump threatened to spread birtherism among independents who might actually be stupid enough to vote for him again. He'll be content to let the issue fester until another Trump comes along. If and when that happens, he knows he can prove what he needs to prove.

73 posted on 03/09/2012 3:24:18 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
The 'anti-aliased grayscale vs. bitmapped jagged pixelation' argument cannot be won by 0bama or his sheep. There is no way possible for both of these phenomena to occur in a single scan and I believe no expert could successfully argue it either. BOTH OF THESE PHENOMENA OCCUR WITHIN 'ANN DUNHAM 0BAMA's SIGNATURE ALONE WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT ALTERATION!!!!

B&W:
Bitmap pixelation results from scanning an image in 'B&W' where halftones are not captured; The portions of the image are either black or white with no in between.

Grayscale
Other 'anti-aliased' areas of the birth certificate are a result of a 'grayscale' or 'photograph mode' scan, resulting in halftone shades or GRADUATED TONES.

So, you have a scanned version of 0bama's alleged 'original' birth certificate that includes both of the above conflicting scan types. The ONLY way to explain this is that the certificate itself was modified and constructed using portions from multiple sources (more than just one). The halftone vs. bitmap issue is not a result of OCR either and I do believe Arpaio's Powerpoint presentation explained away your OCR theory too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGu9NDAw2Vg

Also, there is the problem of 'white clouds' around characters, along with red-shift/blue-shift ghosting too.. Arpaio's team explained these two types of artifacts too and it doesn't bode well for your argument.

Lastly, 0bama's bc is most CERTAINLY NOT A SCAN OF AN ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. It is a DOCUMENT BUILT IN PHOTOSHOP USING AT LEAST TWO SOURCE DOCUMENTS. Enough experts have proven this beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Did you hear about the guy who was present with 0bama at Bill Ayers' mother's house when she introduced 0bama as the 'guy we're trying to get an education for in the United States"??? Sheriff Arpaio's touched upon this at his press conference, so stay tuned..

74 posted on 03/09/2012 5:36:12 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

And the registrar, “Ukulele” (U K L Lee) has always seemed as if the forger were thumbing his/her nose at us...


75 posted on 03/09/2012 11:23:52 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

Or maybe it’s a real person and that’s a ‘V’ not a ‘U’.

It’s possible.


76 posted on 03/10/2012 2:02:01 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo
"U K L Lee" might even be a real person...
77 posted on 03/10/2012 5:37:56 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: TXnMA

So you think she is not a real person or the name doesn’t appear on other BC’s?


78 posted on 03/10/2012 10:27:44 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: El Sordo; TXnMA
So you think she is not a real person or the name doesn’t appear on other BC’s?

You bring up an inconvenient fact.

The U was actually a V. The signature is that of Verna K L Lee, who did indeed work at the Hawaii Department of Health during the relevant time frame, as this page of Lees from the 1961 Polk Directory attests:


79 posted on 03/11/2012 3:34:38 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Usagi_yo
From a Houston Based Kenyan newspaper in 2008. Why did www.usaafricaonline.com/news.html post this on their website in May 2008.

KENYAN BORN! www.usafricaonline.com/news.html
80 posted on 05/18/2012 12:51:52 PM PDT by ncfool (OMG 2012)
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