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Rick Santorumís delegate woes: Trying hard in some states; in others, not so much
Wapo ^ | 030812 | Felicia Sonmez

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:46:35 PM PST by Fred

Rick Santorum won’t be winning any delegates in four of Illinois’ 18 congressional districts next month. But, at least in the 13th District, it won’t be because he didn’t try.

Former senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.). (Julie Denesha/Getty Images)On Jan. 6, the state filing deadline, a Santorum volunteer had brought to the board of elections an envelope containing nominating petitions for a slate of three Santorum delegates in the 13th, the State Journal-Register reports.

But the petitions were never submitted. A volunteer inadvertently failed to take them out of the envelope, the Journal Register reports, and the envelope wound up in the trash.

Even if those petitions had been handed in, the Journal-Register story said, it’s possible they would have been challenged. The Santorum camp was only able to round up some 50 signatures for its slate of delegates in the district, well short of the 600 required.

All in all, the Santorum campaign’s organizational missteps mean that it is already at a deficit of at least 30 delegates in the races playing out over the next month – even before voters in those contests have cast their ballots...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
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“Well, as you know, those delegates had to be filed in Virginia and all the way back in early part of December,” Santorum said. “And, you know, look, I’ll be honest, I mean, I was running across the state of Iowa and, you know, sitting in 2 percent of the national polls, with very, very limited resources, you know, we didn’t have the ability to go out.”
1 posted on 03/08/2012 10:46:39 PM PST by Fred
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To: Fred

Ineligible for over 20% of the delegates of a very delegate rich state...I believe about 75.


2 posted on 03/08/2012 10:51:18 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Fred

Oh! it’s the volunteers fault!


3 posted on 03/08/2012 10:53:08 PM PST by mylife
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To: Fred

Big deal. If anyone thinks Romney isn’t going to walk with this state that has an open Primary, they are kidding themselves. Rahm will make sure everyone in Chicago votes Milt. They also have a goofy distribution of delegates.

http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/files/resolution-re-selection-of-delegates-to-2012-national-convention3-1.pdf


4 posted on 03/08/2012 11:22:35 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Fred
if Santorum wins big in the state next week, he won’t be eligible for all of Alabama’s 47 bound delegates.

Santo has delegate problems all over the US. Voting for him will be useless if he can't get the delegates to back his votes.

5 posted on 03/08/2012 11:29:19 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The delegates go to the one who takes second in the district. Therefore Santorum could win Illinois by 60% and Romney will still win the delegate battle there.


6 posted on 03/08/2012 11:43:45 PM PST by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Red Steel

Santorum will likely have to challenge the delegate count at the convention, as well as Florida’s and Virgina’s allocation (attempt to disallow VA’s delegation). Romney will automatically win those delegates from the districts where Santorum did not qualify if Romney takes second there.


7 posted on 03/08/2012 11:46:05 PM PST by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Red Steel

Sigh. I wish someone would have said something about Santorum’s delegate troubles before. /s


8 posted on 03/08/2012 11:47:22 PM PST by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Fred
How about those Gingrich delegates from Virginia!

Oh, wait... Newt has the same problem.

What a bogus post.

9 posted on 03/09/2012 12:37:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The RNC would prefer Obama to a conservative nominee.)
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To: Fred

When I ran as an alternate there when Reagan ran. You vote twice. Once for the popular vote, and once for the candidates slate of delegates.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 2:02:52 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: Fred

Go away Santorum!


11 posted on 03/09/2012 2:16:54 AM PST by Katarina ( Only RINO's left to vote for. God help us all. Glad I got to vote for Perry! God bless Rush!)
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Rick Santorum will still win, he has to win or Obama will.

The ultimate issue is Obamacare and Rick is the only one (not counting The Nut) who has standing in it's opposition.
The main unconstitutional outrage in Obamacare is the individual mandate—an outrage Mitt Romney invented and Newt Gingrich supported.
Rick Santorum has no such weakness—a weakness Obama’s billion will inflate for both Mitt and Newt into cynical hypocrisy.
I like Newt but he can't get past Romney much less Obama—a vote for him is at best, a vote for a noble lost cause.
But by all means vote for your chosen candidate—just be ready for the “I told you so’s” from we Santorum supporters in the end.

12 posted on 03/09/2012 2:48:02 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: Fred
Newt ahead of Santorum in Delegates

Delegate Totals

Hard Totals/ Soft Totals Explained.

13 posted on 03/09/2012 2:59:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Carry_Okie
I thought I heard that Virginia went through Newt and Rick Perry's signatures with a fine tooth comb---something they NEVER had done before, and certainly didn't do to Romney or Paul. They didn't do it to Santorum. because he didn't submit any signatures. Why didn't he? What possible reason could there be for him to ignore a huge state like Virgina? Obviously, back in December he was simply not serious about really running for President.
14 posted on 03/09/2012 3:57:27 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Fred
Cheering on willard, yes sir!, Anyone that thinks a state delegation is not going to vote the way the people voted do not now anything about how the game is played. The idea in primaries is to win before the floor vote, dang!!
15 posted on 03/09/2012 4:11:04 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Confused much, both willard and paul had mor signatues than needed. Rick was short and newt had 1500 signatures out of a phone book.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 4:14:13 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

That is rick perry was short, santorum never tried, did not have the money at the time. http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2011/12/more-on-the-virginia-primary-ballot-fiasco/


17 posted on 03/09/2012 4:18:22 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
I agree Newt's attempt to get on the ballot came up short. But at least he tried! As I said before, Santorum couldn't even be bothered to collect ANY signatures. And you think this guy is ready to take on Obama.

Santorum and VA ballot

18 posted on 03/09/2012 4:30:20 AM PST by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
It is either him are willard, mr 14%, who has 40% negatives. And would lose to obummer by a bigger margin than mccain.
19 posted on 03/09/2012 4:38:50 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Carry_Okie; Cincinatus' Wife

Newt DOESN”T have the same problem.

We are informed enough here to know that.

The single exception of VA, where they monkeyed with the system and only those who had run before...Romney and Paul...were excused from the signature checks...DOESN’T equal Santorum’s delegate problems in various states.

ANd in VA, Santorum did not even try.

Like a chirping bird who thinks any old song will do so just keep chirping away, that’s what the statement that Newt’s VA ballot trouble = all of Santorum’s delegate trouble, reminds me of.

Doesn’t FLY here, we know better.


20 posted on 03/09/2012 4:39:07 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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