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3 linked to Tucson man killed in SWAT raid arrested
Arizona Star ^ | 5-8-2012 | Veronica Cruz

Posted on 03/09/2012 4:50:46 AM PST by willamedwardwallace

Three people connected to Jose Guerena, the man shot and killed during a SWAT raid in May 2011, were arrested on drug and money laundering charges Thursday morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: marine; police; swat; tucson
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But, but, but this family was perfect. Never a criminal offense among them. OH NOEZ JACKBOOTZ!
1 posted on 03/09/2012 4:50:53 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
They should send a new SWAT team to execute his wife, his son, and their dog.

After all, since he's now "guilty", they are both "connected" to him...

Two thumbs up from the Founders!

2 posted on 03/09/2012 4:56:07 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace
So he was killed for guilty by association, ok. Nice.
3 posted on 03/09/2012 4:56:50 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: willamedwardwallace

So in your mind it was OK to murder Jose for the sins of his sister in laws family???Idiot!


4 posted on 03/09/2012 4:59:25 AM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: willamedwardwallace
"idle thinking"

Wonder how many LEOs they put on this dragnet? They've got over 65 LEOs working diligently in Utah to execute the former paratrooper who handed the SWAT team its ass:

http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/02/26/fundraising-stopped-family-suspect-officer-shooting

5 posted on 03/09/2012 5:00:26 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

I am more worried about the SWAT donut munchers that killed him in front of his family than any associates.


6 posted on 03/09/2012 5:01:09 AM PST by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: willamedwardwallace

Guilt by family association, eh?


7 posted on 03/09/2012 5:03:36 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: willamedwardwallace

Say, is William Edward Wallace the famous Scots patriot who cried “I wanna lick boot leather!” as the English were putting him to death?


8 posted on 03/09/2012 5:04:10 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Bon mots
I am more worried about the SWAT donut munchers that killed him in front of his family than any associates.

Many donuts were momentarily safe in Tulsa on Wednesday:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2111853/Shocking-photos-courthouse-shootout-police-left-deputy-bystander-gunman-wounded.html

Lot of freaking calories floating around in those pictures.

9 posted on 03/09/2012 5:06:30 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

Well yes, since he was “connected” to 3 people merely accused, even possibly guilty of a crime, let’s assume it was proper to murder him!

do I really have to put a sarc tag in here?


10 posted on 03/09/2012 5:07:09 AM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: eastforker

He wasn’t murdered.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 5:07:51 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace

so, this clean former soldier was shot and killed because members of his wifes family sold..... pot??????


12 posted on 03/09/2012 5:09:15 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: All

Interestingly enough, accusing people of murder is defamation per se.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 5:09:29 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
He wasn’t murdered.

You're right.

He was executed.

14 posted on 03/09/2012 5:09:34 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: joe fonebone

He wasn’t “clean”.


15 posted on 03/09/2012 5:09:51 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: kiryandil

Defamation per se.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 5:10:20 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
Interestingly enough, accusing people of murder is defamation per se.

In the new American Fascist Police State, there's a law against everything, lawdog.

17 posted on 03/09/2012 5:10:46 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

You stutter.


18 posted on 03/09/2012 5:11:16 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

The hell he wasn’t, and your still an idiot!


19 posted on 03/09/2012 5:12:00 AM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: eastforker

He wasn’t. Ad hominem.


20 posted on 03/09/2012 5:12:29 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: kiryandil

Nope.


21 posted on 03/09/2012 5:12:47 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace; eastforker
'Whats this?' said Frodo, almost laughing.

'This is what it is , Mr. Baggins,' said the leader of the Shirriffs: 'You're arrested for Gate-breaking, Tearing up Rules, Assulting Gate-keepers, Trespassing, Staying in Shire-buildings without Leave, Bribing Guards.'

'And what else?' said Frodo.

'That'll do for now,' said the Shirriff-leader.

"I can add more, if you'd like it,' said Sam. 'Calling your Chief Names, Wishing to punch his Pimply Face, and Thinking you Shirriffs look like Tom-fools.'

22 posted on 03/09/2012 5:15:45 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: eastforker
OHNOES!

Sam Gamgee has "percy defamed" the Shirriffs! Tase the bastard!

23 posted on 03/09/2012 5:17:12 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: joe fonebone
Looks like they put a couple of hundred LEOs on the case to dredge up some evidence of jaywalking, littering & whatnot so they could "prove" that the guy they offed was "guilty".

williamedwardwallace is here to spread the glad news. "The King's Men are innocent! Huzzah!"

George III could only dream about having our current police forces at his disposal during the runup to the "troubles" in 1776...

They probably spent a hundred grand on the follow-up investigation.

24 posted on 03/09/2012 5:23:30 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

Those cops execute that kid. Now sue me.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 5:28:39 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: willamedwardwallace

He was “squeaky” clean... I guess that is why he was targeted for elimination.... yeah, that’s the ticket.... shaky warrant based upon a drug users word, we still do not know what was in the warrant, or the judge that signed it, and the cops are just spilling out all information pertaining to this killing, righhhhttt....


26 posted on 03/09/2012 5:30:13 AM PST by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: kiryandil

Bump!


27 posted on 03/09/2012 5:34:31 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Lurker

I won’t, but I can pass the necessary information on if you like.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 5:36:53 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: joe fonebone

Wrong. The warrant affidavit was released for all to see.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 5:37:33 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace
He wasn’t murdered.

Nope he was executed by ignorance.

Can you not see the insanity of this type of SWAT Operation? And do not forget the idiot Sheriff Dipstick (Dupnick), political hack.

30 posted on 03/09/2012 5:38:26 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: willamedwardwallace

Please explain what crime the DEAD guy committed?


31 posted on 03/09/2012 5:38:29 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: joe fonebone

“so, this clean former soldier was shot and killed because members of his wifes family sold..... pot??????”

They were cutting into the sales of the SWAT teams market.


32 posted on 03/09/2012 5:43:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: willamedwardwallace; Lurker

Be sure to include the wife since you are slandering her and her late husband who was murdered by the corrupt and incompetent police.


33 posted on 03/09/2012 5:48:48 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: willamedwardwallace
I bet you don't get a single supporting comment on this thread. You picked the wrong place to post this.

This article and the arrest is an attempt by Sheriff Dipstick (Dupnick) to cover his A$$ and to give them a chance to prevail in the lawsuit by his widow for their negligence, and the killing of her husband.

There is NO justification for this type of SWAT attack. The militarization of the Police is an extremely dangerous trend.

Dupnick will eventually be removed as Sheriff. The County and those involved will loose the lawsuit against them. Hope fully this type of insanity will stop.

Remember, Sheriff Dipstick is the guy who blamed Congressman Gilford’s shooting (and the murder of the Judge) on the Tea Party. (again without a shred of evidence)

34 posted on 03/09/2012 5:49:01 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: driftdiver

Nope. You should learn the law.


35 posted on 03/09/2012 5:51:54 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: Texas Fossil

What? Do you mean in an echo chamber of “sovereigns” and libertarian wackos who hate the police?


36 posted on 03/09/2012 5:53:21 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace

So should the sheriff, it might help his incompetence problem.

So what crime was the dead guy convicted of?

Why do you support summary executions?


37 posted on 03/09/2012 5:54:05 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: willamedwardwallace; Lurker
Since you're so helpful, why don't you submit an FOIA request on how much they spent on the follow-up investigation?

If not, shuttenzeeupennen, Stasi-boy.

38 posted on 03/09/2012 5:54:35 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: driftdiver

What you think the law is, and what the law is, are two different things.

If someone points a gun at you, and you shoot them, have you summarily executed them? What crime have they been convicted of?

Your talking point reveals your insanity.


39 posted on 03/09/2012 5:55:53 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: Lurker
Those cops execute that kid. Now sue me.

Do you find it interesting that an enabler is on Free Republic basically threatening people with prosecution for voicing their opinions on this?

40 posted on 03/09/2012 5:56:21 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

Why don’t you? You are the keyboard warrior after all?

A legend in your own mind.


41 posted on 03/09/2012 5:56:49 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace

Are you getting on that FOIA request, or do you just have a single agenda here?


42 posted on 03/09/2012 5:57:39 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

What you think is “opinion” and what is actually “opinion” in a legal sense are two different things.

There is also a difference between “prosecution” and a tort action. Do you understand that?

Nope. You don’t, because you are mistaken on the law.


43 posted on 03/09/2012 5:57:56 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: kiryandil

Why aren’t you?


44 posted on 03/09/2012 5:58:15 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace

When you drive drunk and kill someone you are responsible for the death.

This is no different.


45 posted on 03/09/2012 5:58:44 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
They were cutting into the sales of the SWAT teams market.

LOL! See the new movie, Los Angeles Goes To Tucson!

46 posted on 03/09/2012 6:00:27 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: willamedwardwallace

What crime was the dead guy convicted of?


47 posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:56 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Your talking point is irrelevant. Keep repeating yourself though.


48 posted on 03/09/2012 6:02:21 AM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: willamedwardwallace

yeah, no surprise you consider dead innocents to be irrelevant.


49 posted on 03/09/2012 6:04:35 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: willamedwardwallace; Texas Fossil
What? Do you mean in an echo chamber of “sovereigns” and libertarian wackos who hate the police?

Odd. I've always thought of myself as a conservative Constitutionalist.

Apparently, now I'm a "sovereign".

I'll bet the New American Police State would describe Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry and Benjamin Franklin as "“sovereigns” and libertarian wackos", when they weren't smearing them for being "slavers" and "drunken womanizers".

Which comes back to this thread.

Which is just a $100K smear on a dead veteran by the Police State that killed him.

50 posted on 03/09/2012 6:05:44 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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