Posted on 03/09/2012 5:44:29 AM PST by C19fan
Nonfarm payroll employment rose by 227,000 in February, and the unemployment rate was unchanged at 8.3 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment rose in professional and businesses services, health care and social assistance, leisure and hospitality, manufacturing, and mining.
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I have found by and large that FReepers who don't 'get' what you've just eloquently stated, are from states under 7.5%. They haven't been unemployed, and they don't directly know someone who is. It's still 2005 wherever they are.
Those of us in states at 8.5% or 10% or even higher, it's reality -- you have a good friend or immediate family member who has been unemployed (and who you have helped) for a year or longer during the Bobo administration.
From BLS Frequently asked questions,
“Are undocumented immigrants counted in the surveys?
It is likely that both surveys include at least some undocumented immigrants. However,
neither the establishment nor the household survey is designed to identify the legal
status of workers. Therefore, it is not possible to determine how many are counted in
either survey. The establishment survey does not collect data on the legal status of
workers. The household survey does include questions which identify the foreign and
native born, but it does not include questions about the legal status of the foreign
born.”
Landscape Season!!!
I’m with you friend!!! It never fails to amaze me, how many posting Freepers totally collapse, crater and give in when led over the cliff by a lamestream media that is losing creditablilty with each passing day. Let me remind you folks of something. if the government monthly numbers are under 250,000 jobs created, it means no growth!!! Why did the 8.3% unemployment not drop this month? Because, more people are looking for work as their unemployment checks disappear. This situation will only get worse as the year goes on. And...we are beginning to see a downtick in hiring at the same time as gas prices continue to rocket upward!!! This economy is going nowhere, fast, and the experts know it. So.....when some stupid Obama boot licker tells you everything is coming up rosy, you are the fool if you believe that false spin!!!
Sad & sickening.....that so many Freepers are drinking the Kool-Aid of the lamestream media. You naysayers and negative folks better get with the program. Read my lips, Obama hates America, his only purpose is to bring the country down!!! If you weakknees lose heart and action, we all be slaves bowing before “Comrade Obama”!!! Wise up and get on the attack instead of crying in the corner!!! The future of our country is at stake during this upcoming election!!! Just one Freeper’s opinion!!!
They added an additional 13,000 temp jobs in one month.
Where did these all come from?
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.b.htm
They can make up "employment" numbers, but they can't make up state personal income tax revenue numbers. Which most states release monthly, BTW. :-)
Capiche?
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It is. The whole GOP economic argument for unseating Obama is losing steam as well. Not that these numbers are true or accurate, but they’re solidfying the narrative that Obamunism is the light.
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Let’s not fall into the trap of buying into the Obama-worshiping media narrative here... An 8.3% unemployment rate absolutely SUCKS and is STILL higher than the 7.8% rate when Obama took office over three years ago. It continues to be the longest period of 8%+ unemployment since the Great Depression. There are TWO MILLION FEWER JOBS available in the labor force today than then and even more millions of Americans out of work. No matter how hard the media tries to LIE about the economy getting better, it’s not going to fool the average American who continues to struggle financially. Therefore, the GOP still has EVERY REASON to go after Obama over the economy.
Gotta keep 2010 in perspective though. What happened then was conservatives enraged by Obama's policies and storming to the polls in disproportionate numbers to do something about it. The minorities and dependent classes will be in the game at a far higher percentage this time around.
The fact 49.5% of Americans don't pay federal income taxes -- and liking it that way -- isn't "spin." It's a clear fact that anyone who runs for high office in opposition of that is going to have the ball and chain of voter self-interest holding them down.
That's a great metric re: the food stamps... but as I said earlier, Bush still gets the majority of the blame.
I'm not convinced Americans are wanting to break free of it, and I disagree most realize the urgency of the situation. They simply don't view the world as we do. Four more years of Obama and it is game, set, and match for this Republic.
I completely agree with that statement. I wish more Americans did, too.
I predict that when someone from the BLS finally talks about the blatant manipulation of the numbers it will be ignored or chuckled at by the media.
Make no mistake... I'm not buying into the idea things are going well... far from it. My contention is voters at large believe it's "improving." Hidden from them is the fact the BLS unemployment rate is artificially kept low by the exclusion of those not currently seeking work. Because of that, voters think they see a positive economic trajectory.
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Why do people seemingly ignore what happened in 2010, the most historic midterms since 1938?
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An EXCELLENT question! Nothing has really changed since 2010, so why does everybody seem to have forgotten about the historic election night a little over a year ago that netted the GOP’s biggest congressional gains in 70 years???
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Make no mistake... I’m not buying into the idea things are going well... far from it. My contention is voters at large believe it’s “improving.” Hidden from them is the fact the BLS unemployment rate is artificially kept low by the exclusion of those not currently seeking work. Because of that, voters think they see a positive economic trajectory.
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But are the voters at large *really* believing the economy is improving? Obama’s job approval numbers have been trending back down to the mid-40s in Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll of like voters over the past couple of weeks, which is roughly where they’ve been for much of the past two years.
Obama knows he needs to get the official number down further and that will be the goal over the next 240 days. As you said, it's blatant manipulation and one of the risks of the GOP pushing only on economics. They won't have the benefit Clinton did in 1991 where people where angry and didn't believe the recovery had started even though it had.
He's happy to push gas prices now and see them back down in time for the election as well. His hope is to run again a "do nothing Congress." To do that he needs to create the illusion of favorable trends so he can then say his opponents are slowing down the recovery which is so strong, so assured they can only try to hold it back for political gain.
It's a sham but it's his best argument and the Democrats, along with complicit media, are masters of message manipulation. They know perception is reality and don't care about the facts, just the story they can sell.
Finally Obama knows he's got the race card to pull out to make this an affirmative action reelection rather than by the standard of, for example, a President John Kerry.
Objectively he doesn't deserve a second term but unlike other incumbents in his position, he has enough left in his bag of tricks to win.
You are a defeatist whose attitude stinks. You are the poster boy of how the MSM can influence perception--not reality.
Back down to what price? Gas was $1.79 a gallon for regular when Obama took office. And the reality is that Obama has no real control of gas prices, especially if things heat up in the ME. His only weapon is to release oil from the SPR, but that is only marginally effective and short term.
Defeatist? Try realist.. without a clue as who and what he was, the country elected OBAMA!!!!
After three long years of this train wreck... After three long years of devastatingly ruinous economic policies and clear degradation of freedom, Obama`s approve rates are STILL averaging nearly 50%.
So tell me... what inspires you to believe the American electorate has learned that it made a historic mistake in 2008???
Why? The legacy of 8 years of George Bush who proved that he was no conservative with out of control spending, unpopular wars, a country going into recession, and Bush's approval ratings in the toliet.
Who was the GOP's nominee? An old, "maverick" who pushed amnesty, cap and trade, and a host of other unpopular programs. The country did not want a third term for Bush, which is how McCain was seen. It is also very rare for one political party to control the WH for three terms in a row. FDR and Bush 41 were rare exceptions in the 20th century.
The reality was that no GOP candidate could have won in 2008. The ass-whuppin the Reps received in 2006 was the harbinger of what would happen in 2008. It was a foregone conclusion. But in 2012, unlike in 2008, we have a clue as to who The One is. How popular is Obamacare?
After three long years of this train wreck... After three long years of devastatingly ruinous economic policies and clear degradation of freedom, Obama`s approve rates are STILL averaging nearly 50%.
Besides the fact that plenty of those polls are bogus if you look at the internals, approval rates are running below 50%, which is not good news for any incumbent. And there are recent polls from Gallup and Rasmussen that show Obama's approval ratings below 50%. More importantly, on policy issues, Obama is losing across the board. According to Gallup, 50% believe Obama's presidency has been a failure.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 28% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-four percent (44%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16. Total disapprove is 53% versus 46% total approve.
Only thirty percent (30%) now believe the United States is generally heading in the right direction. That’s down two points from a week ago and down four points from three weeks ago. But it’s still a more optimistic assessment than was found for most of 2011.
So tell me... what inspires you to believe the American electorate has learned that it made a historic mistake in 2008???
The 2010 midterm elections. They are more of an indicator than any poll. Obama is not going to get 43% of the white vote this time around nor will he have the same attraction for women and younger voters. The Messiah has lost his mojo. He can no longer use Hope and Change. Obama has a record now and it will sink him. Four more years of trillion dollar annual deficits and 8% unemployment (much higher if you use U-6 rates?) Do you think Obama will win VA?
It's working for him as planned then.
Are we incoherent enough to be brought down by a 2nd sucker punch?
Not voters in red or purple states at or above the national rate -- because they're living this Depression II. And in that group, I see two states that will flip - IN & NC, and two states that will likely flip - FL & NV.
GOP flips those 4, and adds VA (6.1%) & OH (7.9%) == 271EV. Bye bye Bobo.
The math is that simple, and every one of the 3 viable GOP candidates knows that. That's why no one's gettin' out from here on out.
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