Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Gallup: Unemployment at 9.1%, But 19% Need Jobs
Newsmax ^ | Thursday, 08 Mar 2012 02:19 PM | Martin Gould

Posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:02 AM PST by xzins

The unemployment rate shot up by half a percentage point in February, according to figures released by the polling organization Gallup on Thursday.

The jump from 8.6 percent in January to 9.1 percent last month is the largest month-by-month increase in more than a year, Gallup said. It is the highest rate since August.

Gallup’s figures differ from the official government unemployment rate because they do not adjust the figure for seasonal variations or include anyone under 18. ...snip

“If the government's unadjusted unemployment rate increases to the degree that Gallup's has from mid-month to mid-month, then the government's seasonally adjusted unemployment rate could show an even larger increase,” Jacobe said.

He predicted the government figure for February would stand at either 8.5 or 8.6 percent.

...According to the organization, the underemployment rate – which includes part-time workers who want to be in full-time employment, rose from 18.7 percent to 19.1 percent in February, the highest since last May.

“Regardless of what the government reports, Gallup's unemployment and underemployment measures show a substantial deterioration since mid-January,” added Jacobe. “In this context, the increase in unemployment as measured by Gallup may, at least partly, reflect growth in the workforce, as more Americans who had given up looking for work become slightly more optimistic and start looking for work again.

“So while there may be positive signs, the reality Gallup finds is that more Americans are looking for work now than were doing so just six weeks ago. Official Bureau of Labor Statistics unemployment figures have shown the rate go down from 9 percent since September.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discouragedworkers; obamanomics; reality; underemployment; unemployment
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
Gallup is at least trying to report the reality that's out there in the job market.

Everyone else is in "re-elect Barack Obama" mode.

If we were using the same stats as in the Jimmy Carter era, all of our candidates would be talking about the misery index of barack obama.

Joblessness+Manipulation of Fuel Prices+unreported everyman inflation

1 posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:06 AM PST by xzins
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: xzins

Did FDR ever get unemployment below 20 % before 12-7-41?


2 posted on 03/09/2012 6:05:34 AM PST by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Graewoulf

I don’t know.


3 posted on 03/09/2012 6:22:15 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: xzins

I read the true number was more like 36%


4 posted on 03/09/2012 6:23:14 AM PST by television is just wrong
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong

The numbers are cooked. Any number that drops people just because they don’t have a record of their having looked for a job in one month is ridiculous.


5 posted on 03/09/2012 6:24:59 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: xzins

for the state of jobs in the country, we should not have an unemployment number, as that can be easily fudged.

the employment information should be on a per capita basis for every zip code. the data can then be rolled-up

data items per zipcode:
1. total population
2. number of people eligible to work (nWorkers)
3. total number of unique social security numbers working in the region
4. total wages paid in a period

derived data:
EPC (employment per capita) = #ssno / (nWorkers / 1000)
AW (avg wage) = total wages / #ssno
AWPC (avg wage per capita) == total wages / nWorkers

having this data, we could see the employment level, per capita, along with the average wage per person in the region

example:
total pop: 38,000
nWorkers: 22,000
#ssno: 20,500
total wages: $922m

EPC = 20,500 / (22,000 / 1000) == 932
AW = $922m / 20,500 == $44,975
AWPC = $922m / 22,000 == $41,909

now let’s say the population increases but no more jobs were added... 7,000 more people of which, 4,000 were eligible to work:

total pop: 45,000
nWorkers: 26,000
#ssno: 20,500
total wages: $922m

EPC = 20,500 / (26,000 / 1000) == 788
AW = $922m / 20,500 == $44,975
AWPC = $922m / 26,000 == $35,461

this would give an accurate picture of exactly what’s happening in that region. there would be no concept of ‘falling off the back’ if an employable person doesn’t have work or isn’t taking welfare. it would also be able to show a trend in wages over time for the region.


6 posted on 03/09/2012 6:32:55 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

they need to change how they look for these numbers. I grew up in a family of 9 kids, only one of us has a job. I am on disability because I fractured my spine and cannot stand or sit for very long. I am also scared when I go off of disability having to face these job conditions.


7 posted on 03/09/2012 6:48:57 AM PST by television is just wrong
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: xzins
All your jobs belong to us Chinese.

There will be no US recovery until we can trade fairly with China.

8 posted on 03/09/2012 7:03:45 AM PST by Last Dakotan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sten

The numbers, as they stand now, are a lie, since they play fast and loose with reality.


9 posted on 03/09/2012 7:04:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong

MSM has decided this is no longer a story.. the only numbers they are now reporting are the new job creations number.. If we lost 300,000 jobs but created 200,000 they only report the 200,000 new jobs created. I listen to a Los Angeles, CBS all news talk radio (KNX)in the mornings, and I’m referring to them.

who’d a thunk they’d be capable of that. :^)


10 posted on 03/09/2012 7:07:45 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

Comment #11 Removed by Moderator

To: xzins

No idea how the media is allowed to give Obama a pass when he lies about creating 4 million jobs. There has to be a way to make this mis-information or outright lying known to the American people.


12 posted on 03/09/2012 4:33:38 PM PST by Ballygrl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: television is just wrong

http://www.amazon.com/48-Days-Work-You-Love/dp/0805431888
This is a start. Do not fear. There is something in this world you can do! Good luck!


13 posted on 03/09/2012 5:15:44 PM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Chuzzlewit
MSM has decided this is no longer a story.. the only numbers they are now reporting are the new job creations number.. If we lost 300,000 jobs but created 200,000 they only report the 200,000 new jobs created. I listen to a Los Angeles, CBS all news talk radio (KNX)in the mornings, and I’m referring to them.

California created the most new jobs last year of all the states (263,200).

Of course, in the last five months (from September 2011 - January 2012), California's revenue from the personal income tax has dropped $550 million dollars compared with the same five months last year.

Interesting conundrum: how can you add a quarter of a million jobs, yet lose half a billion in income tax revenue? Are CA state income taxes optional now? ;-)

Of course, if a state was to over-report "jobs created", when Oblabla was safely elected, and Democrats once again controlled Congress, perhaps the bailout money firehose would be turned on once again, in gratitude for "services rendered"...

14 posted on 03/09/2012 5:28:09 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Ballygrl

See my post #14. They CAN’T lie about monthly state income tax revenue numbers. :-)


15 posted on 03/09/2012 5:29:29 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Yes, but the unemployed get “more family time”.


16 posted on 03/09/2012 6:01:54 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: xzins

Haha... WTF?


17 posted on 03/09/2012 6:10:20 PM PST by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ballygrl

First a Daimler plant and now Rolls Royce. Can’t the President find an American company that is building things in the Obama economy?


18 posted on 03/09/2012 6:17:53 PM PST by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: csmusaret
Can’t the President find an American company that is building things in the Obama economy?

Government Motors shut down the Volt line...

19 posted on 03/09/2012 6:25:12 PM PST by okie01 (/i>On Parade)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: xzins
The Kenya pretender is a traitor.

This nation used to have a provision for treason.

20 posted on 03/09/2012 6:57:12 PM PST by tomkat (FU.baraq)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson