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Santorum on Bush Team in 2006 when GOP & Santorum lost House, Senate. Obama easily beats Rick.
March 10, 2012 | Ralph Mitchell

Posted on 03/09/2012 10:20:08 PM PST by mitchell001

Obama could easily beat Rick Santorum, because Rick is tightly tied to Bush's high spending and wars. Rick got kicked out of his Senate seat in 2006 when the Dems took charge of both the House and the Senate due to the failed policies of the Bush administration. Santorum equals Bush, since Santorum in his own words was a team player in Congress. Obama will blame Santorum for Bush job losses, mortgage failures, bank failures and war spending. Message to GOP, forget Santorum, forget Romney and Romneycare, NOMINATE GINGRICH.


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KEYWORDS: bush; gingrich; romney; santorum
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To: mitchell001

Yeah well Mr. Mitchell, Santorum might get beat by Obama, but Romney WILL get beat by Obama- Agree?


21 posted on 03/09/2012 11:04:15 PM PST by JSDude1
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To: ansel12; Steelfish
You may be as dishonest as you obviously are...

I was just going to write Steel the same thing, that was a very dishonest post, and it is the sort of thing Santorum supporters do all the time.

22 posted on 03/09/2012 11:04:29 PM PST by true believer forever (If Newt is good enough for Sarah, he's good enough for me!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Rick Santorum's PAC Donated To Arlen Specter In 2009 Santorum has responded that his (2004) endorsement was based upon both the electability of Specter in the general election and a promise from the Republican turned Democrat to support Bush judicial nominees.
But 2010 filings to the Federal Election Commission filings show the former Santorum was supporting Specter well after 2004.

A lifetime devoted to Specter and his radical politics, in 1996 Santorum was supporting his attempt to remove the pro-life plank from the party platform.

Specter, with Santorum on stage, endorsing and clapping:
“I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women."
“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform.”

23 posted on 03/09/2012 11:10:16 PM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress)
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To: Steelfish

“Sowell writes Gingrich carries enough baggage to fill a commercial airliner.”

Then Obama would need a whole airline for his baggage!

Newt’s baggage is mostly personal and some poorly thought out comments when he was out of office. When Newt was in office his actual record of accomplishments is outstanding. He is literally the last Repubulican to get anything conservative done in Washington on a big scale. Everyone since has squandered what Newt left them, including Santorum, Bush, Boehner, etc.

Santorum and Romney’s baggage is their records. I’ll take Newt any day.


24 posted on 03/09/2012 11:17:23 PM PST by Bizhvywt
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To: true believer forever

Jim Robinson’s endorsement, as was reported by Fox News, was a formal endorsement. Thomas Sowell’s support is down lower on this page.

Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic

I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!

RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!

Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!


Fox Business:
Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate Obama
Mar 9, 2012
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.

Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate ObamaMar 9, 2012- 7:32 -
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 11:22:11 PM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress)
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To: mitchell001

Do you think Obama is really going to go after anybody on “big spending” The Bush “Evil Santorum” budgets were chump change compaired to spending during the last three years.


26 posted on 03/09/2012 11:43:23 PM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: ansel12; RIghtwardHo

You are reading into it your own prejudices. What Prof. Sowell said is accurate, it is also the truth.

You need to take a class in English 101, if you think there was any implication whatsoever that Jim Robinson “retracted” the statement. This is your contortionist interpretation. On the contrary, I say categorically that you are providing us with a misleading interpretation of Jim Robinson’s statement and that of others to try and silence us into abandoning our support for Santorum. Who are you to try and enforce a prescribed orthodoxy?

I and other Santorum backers can read the polls, analyze the contests, and come to honest conclusions, especially in the light of what Carl Cameron of FoxNews said on Super Tuesday night about the Romney camp now being “happy” that Gingrich continues to be in the race, that his presence makes him an unwitting enabler of handing the nomination to Romney and undermining Le Resistance.

We base our analsysis on a number of factors. The squeaker wins by Romney in AZ, WA, MI, and OH, Gingrich’s high unfavorability ratings, his Grand Canyon-size gender gap, his inability to secure at least 50% of the vote in his own home state after massive campaigning and ad buys. Of course feel free to disagree and tell us why but don’t try to use Jim Robinson’s post and give it your spin as warrant to stifle independent analyses here.

Go take an English class-I’ll pay for it.

All too often, when you are unable to intellectually debate the merits of our arguments you resort to personal vilification, name-calling us as trolls, or accusing us of spamming articles. Some the vitriol you have posted against Santorum is beyond the pale including the absurdity that Santorum was pro-abortion because he supported Arlen Spector.

But please don’t slant the purpose of Jim Robinson’s January post as a cover to try and browbeat us into your own orthodoxy in claiming that anything posted here that in your view is anti-Gingrich is also against an “official” FR policy like you did relay to me in one of our prior posts. This now appears to be your standard modus operandus.

If these debates are above your pay grade and all you could do is name call us and seek to enforce a prescribed orthodoxy then you have gone beyond legitimate bounds.


27 posted on 03/10/2012 12:24:39 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Thomas Sowell is a Gingrich backer, a supporter, that quote you posted is from an article supporting Gingrich, you lie by trying to turn it into an attack on him.

Fox Business: Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate Obama, Mar 9, 2012
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.


According to Fox News, Jim Robinson of Freerepublic made an OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT of Speaker Newt Gingrich.
you tried to imply that the endorsement has been retracted, just as you tried to give the impression that Economist Sowell, is NOT for Gingrich.

Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic

I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!

RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!

Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!


28 posted on 03/10/2012 12:34:24 AM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress")
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To: Kansas58

GW Bush’s high spending occurred after the 2006 election. He made the same deal that Reagan did: Get the military spending the country needs, at the cost of social(ist) programs that the country can reverse later.


29 posted on 03/10/2012 12:44:33 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: ansel12
Your post is a nice campaign (attack) line which has been used over and over, but is lacking in credibility.

Once again, Santorum lost his seat due to his support for the Iraq war in an anti-war State and the name recognition of his opponent. As you should know, that election was a terrible one for almost all Republican candidates, especially in PA (Lynn Swann lost to Rendell by a 20 point margin).

The Specter endorsement (mentioned by you in another post) meant almost nothing in that election.

Can a candidate recover from a loss? Gingrich lost twice (one a substantial loss) prior to being elected to the Congress. Romney lost in his bid for the Senate. Bill Clinton lost a House race and a Gubernatorial election prior to being elected President.

I didn't like Santorum’s endorsement of Specter. I also didn't like President Bush's endorsement, but I understood the politics of both. Who knows how history would have been altered had Toomey been the nominee. Given how blue PA became and the fact that Toomey squeaked out a victory in a big Republican year (2010), I think it likely that Toomey would have also lost in 2004.

30 posted on 03/10/2012 5:40:39 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
The Specter endorsement (mentioned by you in another post- of destroying the pro-life movement ) meant almost nothing in that election.

To who? The people that wanted to destroy the pro-life movement, or that supports pro-life?

31 posted on 03/10/2012 5:50:20 AM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress")
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To: Rational Thought

So, you like this stuff?

Here is video of Senator Santorum on stage with Arlen Specter, as Specter is announcing his Presidential run, based on making the GOP a pro-abortion party, Rick Santorum endorsed him, and campaigned for him and his platform.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/64281-1

Transcript Highlights:
Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:

3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…

13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…

13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…

14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.

15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.

15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…

16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”


32 posted on 03/10/2012 5:53:05 AM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress")
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To: mitchell001

2006 was a whole different chapter in history

“Miss me yet?”

YES


33 posted on 03/10/2012 5:54:00 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Christie at the beach
and Newt is not from “old guard republicanism?”

a fresh new face, a real Renaissance man

34 posted on 03/10/2012 5:57:00 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Rational Thought

I’m willing to disrobe your radical pro abortion nut.
Let’s go for it it.

“I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women.”
“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform.”


35 posted on 03/10/2012 6:01:14 AM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress")
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To: ansel12

Speaking of abandoning conservative principles to endorse RINOs - got a video of Sarah Palin endorsing John McCain?


36 posted on 03/10/2012 6:01:24 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Steelfish

Guess what genius, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mack are both Socialist Democrat inventions, highly loved by all Liberals and Democrats.

Do you think they would use that against themselves? And especially against a man who will cut them to ribbons using their own rhetoric against them?

That ploy only worked by Romney against Republicans. And Newt would easily turn the blame right back at them where it belongs.


37 posted on 03/10/2012 6:04:46 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: mitchell001

Newt never abandoned his conservative principles, did he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

“We Can Solve It”


38 posted on 03/10/2012 6:05:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

all the obama people need to do is run this ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154


39 posted on 03/10/2012 6:06:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: silverleaf

Really? a GOP Presidential ticket endorsing/destroying itself?

I don’t know if you were invested in the 2010 elections, were you?


40 posted on 03/10/2012 6:10:05 AM PST by ansel12 (SANTORUM-(not Romney) "I was basically pro-choice all my life, until I ran for Congress")
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