Posted on 03/09/2012 10:20:08 PM PST by mitchell001
And you think Obama won’t hammer Gingrich on Ethics Violations Charges; and $1.6m from Fannie Mae as part of the housing mortgage crisis, which is more current and fresh on voters’ minds?
Santorum is from the old guard republicanism. Don't wont to go backwards. Support the best candidate, Newt Gingrich.
Very weak comparison. Newt was working as a citizen, not as an elected official. Santorum abandoned his conservative principles to back Bush in 2005. Voted with unions against National Right to Work.
you are so right,I love Newt.
Gingrich would be the strongest running against Obama.
Next down would be Romney, followed by Santorum & last is Paul.
Voters won’t get that nuance.
On Greta last night, Newt talked about going all the way to Tampa, so the conservatives in the race could “short” Romney on the delegates, and steal it from him. There was a really good discussion on another thread last night, too, that this was the only chance... an alliance between at least rick and newt, and maybe paul, but I don’t see paul doing anything but going with romney. I’m not even sure Santorum will withstand Romney, whatever he tempts him with. That seems to be the strategy.
Newt is always 10 mil miles ahead of everybody else. I think this is his strategy, which means his supporters are just going to have to shut out the noise, and not get discouraged if he doesn’t do well in MS and AL, as the media and everybody will start the clamor for him to get out. The man is marching on no matter what. The man is marching on...
“Obama could easily beat Rick Santorum”
Duh. Why do you think Democrats have been organizing for him since Michigan (maybe even farther back I’m not sure).
Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!
RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!
Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!
And in every single poll Obama beats Gingrich worse. Gingrich has THE worst favorables. He is utterly unelectable.
Santorum 2012
Sorry Catb. I meant duh towards the author not you.
As a Texan, I am very anti-union, I don’t think conservatives know that about Santorum.
If he is union scum that would hurt him terribly with conservatives, if they ever found out.
Without the left fearing him, we just don’t see the anal probe that conservatives get from the media.
Nonsense.
Santorum can beat Obama. Gingerich may be able to also. Only Nutbag Paul and Obama Lite Romney have no chance..........
Absolutely correct! As Prof. Sowell writes Gingrich carries enough baggage to fill a commercial airliner.
Ansel12 cites Jim Robinson to make the point that we have an “official” endorsement of Gingrich and as such regardless of the reality on the ground since that announcement of Jim Robinson, that any post against Gingrich is heresy.
That was a personal endorsement in January which we all shared and at a time when Gingrich was a viable candidate. As his star faded, however, we were asked to join “Le Resistance” to stop Romney. That was the end game. Gingrich was considered the candidate with the most potential at the time to stop Romney. Fair enough.
But this is not the case today. Indeed, as Carl Cameron reported on FoxNews on the night of Super-Tuesday, the “Romney camp is happy to see Gingrich still in the race” and so we now have the perverse condition of Gingrich becoming an enabler of Romney. Look no further than AZ, WA, MI, and OH where Romney won by a squeaker. This is not what Jim Robinson, or any FReeper wants. Politics is fluid, the ground game changes, but let’s not lose sight of our objective. Santorum is now our best bet agains Obama. Rasmussen has Santorum trailing Obama by a mere three points whereas Obama is so far ahead of Gingrich that he falls out of view in the rear view mirror.
This will be a 2-man race if not by tomorrow then most definitely by Tuesday.
I would think some of it was being joined at the hip with Specter his entire career.
Santorum even endorsed Specter's campaign to make the GOP a pro-abortion party, in his 1996 Presidential run.
If you are going to use me in a post, then ping me.
You are lying when you use Sowell that way, Sowell endorses Gingrich, as does Jim Robinson of freerepublic.
You also seem to be implying that Jim Robinson has retracted his endorsement of Gingrich, which he hasn’t.
You may be as dishonest as you obviously are, and try to lie about Sowell, but I doubt that it is very smart to try and lie about JR, and for you to be giving the impression that he has changed his endorsement.
Yeah well Mr. Mitchell, Santorum might get beat by Obama, but Romney WILL get beat by Obama- Agree?
I was just going to write Steel the same thing, that was a very dishonest post, and it is the sort of thing Santorum supporters do all the time.
A lifetime devoted to Specter and his radical politics, in 1996 Santorum was supporting his attempt to remove the pro-life plank from the party platform.
Specter, with Santorum on stage, endorsing and clapping:
“I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women."
“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform.”
“Sowell writes Gingrich carries enough baggage to fill a commercial airliner.”
Then Obama would need a whole airline for his baggage!
Newt’s baggage is mostly personal and some poorly thought out comments when he was out of office. When Newt was in office his actual record of accomplishments is outstanding. He is literally the last Repubulican to get anything conservative done in Washington on a big scale. Everyone since has squandered what Newt left them, including Santorum, Bush, Boehner, etc.
Santorum and Romney’s baggage is their records. I’ll take Newt any day.
Jim Robinson’s endorsement, as was reported by Fox News, was a formal endorsement. Thomas Sowell’s support is down lower on this page.
Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!
RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!
Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!
Fox Business:
Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate Obama
Mar 9, 2012
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.
Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate ObamaMar 9, 2012- 7:32 -
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.
Do you think Obama is really going to go after anybody on “big spending” The Bush “Evil Santorum” budgets were chump change compaired to spending during the last three years.
You are reading into it your own prejudices. What Prof. Sowell said is accurate, it is also the truth.
You need to take a class in English 101, if you think there was any implication whatsoever that Jim Robinson “retracted” the statement. This is your contortionist interpretation. On the contrary, I say categorically that you are providing us with a misleading interpretation of Jim Robinson’s statement and that of others to try and silence us into abandoning our support for Santorum. Who are you to try and enforce a prescribed orthodoxy?
I and other Santorum backers can read the polls, analyze the contests, and come to honest conclusions, especially in the light of what Carl Cameron of FoxNews said on Super Tuesday night about the Romney camp now being “happy” that Gingrich continues to be in the race, that his presence makes him an unwitting enabler of handing the nomination to Romney and undermining Le Resistance.
We base our analsysis on a number of factors. The squeaker wins by Romney in AZ, WA, MI, and OH, Gingrich’s high unfavorability ratings, his Grand Canyon-size gender gap, his inability to secure at least 50% of the vote in his own home state after massive campaigning and ad buys. Of course feel free to disagree and tell us why but don’t try to use Jim Robinson’s post and give it your spin as warrant to stifle independent analyses here.
Go take an English class-I’ll pay for it.
All too often, when you are unable to intellectually debate the merits of our arguments you resort to personal vilification, name-calling us as trolls, or accusing us of spamming articles. Some the vitriol you have posted against Santorum is beyond the pale including the absurdity that Santorum was pro-abortion because he supported Arlen Spector.
But please don’t slant the purpose of Jim Robinson’s January post as a cover to try and browbeat us into your own orthodoxy in claiming that anything posted here that in your view is anti-Gingrich is also against an “official” FR policy like you did relay to me in one of our prior posts. This now appears to be your standard modus operandus.
If these debates are above your pay grade and all you could do is name call us and seek to enforce a prescribed orthodoxy then you have gone beyond legitimate bounds.
Thomas Sowell is a Gingrich backer, a supporter, that quote you posted is from an article supporting Gingrich, you lie by trying to turn it into an attack on him.
Fox Business: Sowell: Gingrich Only One Who Can Debate Obama, Mar 9, 2012
Economist Thomas Sowell argues that Newt Gingrich is the best choice for Republicans.
According to Fox News, Jim Robinson of Freerepublic made an OFFICIAL ENDORSEMENT of Speaker Newt Gingrich.
you tried to imply that the endorsement has been retracted, just as you tried to give the impression that Economist Sowell, is NOT for Gingrich.
Fox News:
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for President today
Jan 19, 2012 | Jim Robinson, Free Republic
I’m officially endorsing Newt Gingrich for president today. Was going to wait until after Florida, but see no reason to delay. We need Newt to win in South Carolina and Florida to stop any possible momentum building up for the establishment big government, statist, abortionist RINO!!
RomneyCare = ObamaCare = government tyranny!! Taxpayer funded abortion is as evil as evil can be!!
Newt is a pro-life Reagan Revolution conservative who led the Republican Revolution of the 90’s, taking the majority away from the democrats who had held it for 40 years. And as Speaker, cut the taxes, cut the government, cut the spending, cut the deficit, cut regulations, cut unemployment, brought the federal budget under control for four years running. And unlike Romney, actually blocked a socialist healthcare system from becoming law. And created a pro-growth, pro-free market, pro-jobs environment and extended the Reagan economy throughout the 90’s!! Newt is the ideal candidate to lead the Tea Party Revolution!!
GW Bush’s high spending occurred after the 2006 election. He made the same deal that Reagan did: Get the military spending the country needs, at the cost of social(ist) programs that the country can reverse later.
Once again, Santorum lost his seat due to his support for the Iraq war in an anti-war State and the name recognition of his opponent. As you should know, that election was a terrible one for almost all Republican candidates, especially in PA (Lynn Swann lost to Rendell by a 20 point margin).
The Specter endorsement (mentioned by you in another post) meant almost nothing in that election.
Can a candidate recover from a loss? Gingrich lost twice (one a substantial loss) prior to being elected to the Congress. Romney lost in his bid for the Senate. Bill Clinton lost a House race and a Gubernatorial election prior to being elected President.
I didn't like Santorum’s endorsement of Specter. I also didn't like President Bush's endorsement, but I understood the politics of both. Who knows how history would have been altered had Toomey been the nominee. Given how blue PA became and the fact that Toomey squeaked out a victory in a big Republican year (2010), I think it likely that Toomey would have also lost in 2004.
To who? The people that wanted to destroy the pro-life movement, or that supports pro-life?
So, you like this stuff?
Here is video of Senator Santorum on stage with Arlen Specter, as Specter is announcing his Presidential run, based on making the GOP a pro-abortion party, Rick Santorum endorsed him, and campaigned for him and his platform.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/64281-1
Transcript Highlights:
Santorum is seen nodding and applauding at Specter’s side:
3:46 mark: “In 1996, I intend to win the other house — the White House — with ten commitments to America… including a woman’s right to choose…
13:22 mark: “Even though we have this historic opportunity for these achievements, there are those in our party who would lead us down a different path — and squander this unique moment in our nation’s history — by using our political capital — to pursue a radical social agenda — that would end a woman’s right to choose…
13:48 mark: “When Pat Robertson says there is no constitutional doctrine of separation between Church and State, I say he is wrong…
14:31 mark: “When Ralph Reed says a pro-choice Republican isn’t qualified to be our President, I say the Republican Party will not be intimidated or blackmailed by those kinds of threats.I, and millions of other pro-choice Republicans, will not be disenfranchised and made second class citizens.
15:33 mark: “… it is not Christian, or religious, or Judeo-Christian to bring God into politics; or to advocate intolerance and promote exclusion.
15:54 mark: “I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women…
16:40 mark: “I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform…”
2006 was a whole different chapter in history
“Miss me yet?”
YES
a fresh new face, a real Renaissance man
I’m willing to disrobe your radical pro abortion nut.
Let’s go for it it.
“I want to take abortion out of politics. I want to keep the Republican Party focused on the vital economic and foreign policy issues — and leave moral issues such as abortion to the conscience of the individual. I believe abortion is an issue to be decided by women.”
“I pledge to lead the fight to strip the strident anti-choice language from the Republican National platform.”
Speaking of abandoning conservative principles to endorse RINOs - got a video of Sarah Palin endorsing John McCain?
Guess what genius, Fannie Mae and Freddy Mack are both Socialist Democrat inventions, highly loved by all Liberals and Democrats.
Do you think they would use that against themselves? And especially against a man who will cut them to ribbons using their own rhetoric against them?
That ploy only worked by Romney against Republicans. And Newt would easily turn the blame right back at them where it belongs.
Newt never abandoned his conservative principles, did he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154
“We Can Solve It”
Really? a GOP Presidential ticket endorsing/destroying itself?
I don’t know if you were invested in the 2010 elections, were you?
“we were asked to join “Le Resistance” to stop Romney.”
Who is we and by whom were we asked?
Obama has already started blaming Bush for all the money he was “forced” to spend to save the country. And believe me, the Amerikan Mob is eating it up like cherry/Amaretto cake!
And Santorum will have his ass handed to him, if this electorate is that stupid to nominate him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7h120k_0os&feature=related
Payback is a real bitch.
Sometimes you just have to put conservative principles ... aside.... for a greater cause.
Oh wait, we are not talking about Santorum now, are we
Newt sells when his is allowed to speak. The fickle public also changes over night once they start hearing what Newt has to say.
Santorum is way behind Obama in the polls. (10 to 15 points)
He IS a disaster. No room for debate here.
There are no perfect candidates. We choose whom we view as the best representatives given our options. I would support either Santorum or Gingrich versus Romney. You have decided to ignore any Gingrich associations and endorsements and focus on Santorum’s. If that makes you feel better about Gingrich, more power to you.
All they know is they are gonna be paying $4 a gallon for gas and this bozo has no answers except buy a $40,000 Volt and wait for algae fuel in 10 years
anger anger anger
irrational (or in this year, rational) voter anger
It just has to be focused on... OBAMA.
Bush been gone for 4 years. GITMO still open. Troops still dying in useless war. Economy still in the crapper. Welfare state still growing. GOP needs to recyle the slogan "Is America better off than we were 4 years ago?
What do you mean?
Is Santorum related to anti-conservatism?
Are you angry at freerepublic?
They would use it against him, as showing him later denouncing/regretting, ever being in the ad in the first place, but Newt could easily explain his changed position and walk away undamaged.
I point out your hypocrisy in slamming Santorum’s endorsement of Specter while ignoring similar or worse endorsements of RINOS or worse by all the other candidates and so-called conservative leadership
Why try to make this about me? Is that the only answer you got?
Are you a kid?
Santorum is a nut case, a pro-abortion weirdo
Gingrich is a right wing conservative..
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