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Man Found Not Guilty of Killing Daughter's Ex(NE)
kptm.com ^ | 9 March, 2012 | NA

Posted on 03/10/2012 9:56:38 AM PST by marktwain

OMAHA (KPTM)-A jury has found an Omaha man not guilty of murdering his daughter's ex-boyfriend.

Sidney Andersen walked out of the Douglas County Courthouse a free man Friday afternoon.

Prosecutors say he shot and killed Randall Grimm at an area grocery store in February 2011.

Andersen's lawyer said he shot Grimm in self-defense and claimed Grimm had made threats to his family and even beat his daughter.

Prosecutors say the jury found that the shooting was justified. They however believe the crime was pre-meditated since Andersen was armed with two guns and rubber gloved the night of the killing. Prosecutors also said that Andersen called investigators in Sarpy County leading up to the shooting. They told Andersen to let them handle the situation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; domestic; ne
Premeditated self defense?
1 posted on 03/10/2012 9:56:44 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Some folks just needs killin’.


2 posted on 03/10/2012 10:04:04 AM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: marktwain
Yeah, ain't that somethin'?

Justified and premeditated!

Yee haw!

3 posted on 03/10/2012 10:04:04 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: marktwain

Sounds like the defense did a good job picking the jury.


4 posted on 03/10/2012 10:07:17 AM PST by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: marktwain
Prosecutors say ... the crime was pre-meditated ...

If he was acquitted I'd say it wasn't a crime at all.

5 posted on 03/10/2012 10:08:37 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.


6 posted on 03/10/2012 10:08:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Good for goose / gander ping)
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To: marktwain

a father’s work is never done


7 posted on 03/10/2012 10:12:39 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain
Premeditated self defense?

All self defense is premeditated! The unpremeditated ones usually become victims.

8 posted on 03/10/2012 10:13:19 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: marktwain

Randall Grimm

9 posted on 03/10/2012 10:14:02 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain

When I read things like this, I ask myself as a woman, “why are women so stupid?” Why do women keep hooking up with men they know nothing about? And how about one of the latest cases where that nut of a women went running off to Aruba with some killer, a person of which she knew nothing about? Just to have some sex time? Again, her body has never been found and the killer is still free.

It goes on and on and on.


10 posted on 03/10/2012 10:15:02 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: marktwain

Actually, I just read an earlier account, and it sounds as if they were both pretty rough guys. But I guess the jury figured that the older bad actor who shot the younger bad actor was defending his daughter.

http://www.kptm.com/Global/story.asp?S=14168140


11 posted on 03/10/2012 10:18:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain

Maybe they both came armed - shootout at the OK corral?


12 posted on 03/10/2012 10:28:32 AM PST by expat1000
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To: brityank

Is not anyone who legally carries a weapon premeditating its use for self defense?


13 posted on 03/10/2012 10:29:20 AM PST by monocle
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To: Cicero

His left ear is very red. Looks as if he didn’t cooperate by removing his earring in a timely manner for the photo.


14 posted on 03/10/2012 10:31:43 AM PST by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: marktwain

Some states, by case law, allow a person to arm themselves before meeting a potentially dangerous person.


15 posted on 03/10/2012 10:33:43 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: marktwain

The gloves were a dead give away. It may have not been the law but it sounds as justice was served. On to Rush and the Slut.


16 posted on 03/10/2012 10:40:02 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: marktwain

There are some critical details missing from this story.

Sidney Andersen (father) was facing two counts, “first-degree murder and use of a weapon to commit a felony.”

The defense presented a terrifying picture into the Andersen’s lives after Sydney Andersen (daughter) broke up with Grimm. The young woman endured violence, threats and stalking that extended to her family.

Andersen had just learned that Grimm often beat his daughter, Sydney Andersen, until she had black eyes and, once, until she had passed out.

Grimm had been threatening the Andersens by text message all day, demanding money from Sydney.

Prosecutors say that’s why Sidney Andersen grabbed two guns and surgical gloves and headed to Hy-Vee, where police were supposed to arrest Grimm for making terroristic threats.

One of the guns was found near Grimm’s body, and it matched ammunition in Andersen’s home. Andersen said Grimm brought the gun and had been pointing it at him.

Police said they found a baseball bat on Grimm, still tucked into his sweatshirt.

Riley (Andersen’s lawyer) said Sidney Andersen went to the Hy-Vee to help police identify and arrest Grimm, but the police weren’t there.

Andersen said he brought a gun to protect himself and was wearing surgical gloves because Grimm claimed to have HIV. Grimm tested negative for HIV after the shooting.

Riley told the jury that Grimm probably stole the gun from Andersen’s house.

“He made a snap judgment and shot and killed the man who, within a few hours, had threatened everyone on this planet that (Sidney Andersen) loved,” Riley said of his client.

(Losing Prosecutor) MacTaggart reminded the jury that Grimm wasn’t on trial.

“I kind of felt like this was prosecutor Riley prosecuting State v. Randall Grimm,” he said.


17 posted on 03/10/2012 10:43:24 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Van der Sloot.
They got him; he’s in prison:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/13/joran-van-der-sloot-to-be-sentenced-for-murder-peruvian-woman/


18 posted on 03/10/2012 10:44:39 AM PST by carriage_hill
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To: monocle

Is not anyone who legally carries a weapon premeditating its use for self defense?


In the ‘big picture’ I would imagine it is a big YES.
The only reason I carry is so I will be prepared in the event I ‘need’ something.

That appears to be the true definition of premeditation.
Or, for those in Rio Linda, BE PREPARED.

Also, if a person takes a weapon or two and a whole passel of ammunition and opens fire on a crowded avenue, OF COURSE he is ‘crazy’, a sane person would not be so inclined - Unless you really, really wee weed someone off.


19 posted on 03/10/2012 10:46:26 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) Don't ask me to steal FOR you and chances are pretty good I won't steal FROM you.)
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To: carriage_hill

No, there’s another one since Van Sloot....unbelievable, but true.


20 posted on 03/10/2012 10:48:56 AM PST by jennings2004 (57 states? Kansas or Texas? American geography is so complicated....:)))
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To: jennings2004

Wow, I missed that one completely, j.


21 posted on 03/10/2012 10:57:09 AM PST by carriage_hill
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To: jennings2004

Here’s a report on the other missing woman:

http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Another-US-woman-missing-in-Aruba/fZutTDvG80-9BMHQpnvNIA.cspx


22 posted on 03/10/2012 11:03:51 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Defiant

Was just gonna say, in Texas it’s called the “he just needed killin’” defense. Seems to work when true. : )


23 posted on 03/10/2012 11:17:05 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Defiant

“Some folks just needs killin’”

That is an affirmative defense in some jurisdictions.


24 posted on 03/10/2012 11:24:30 AM PST by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: Cicero

Good kill. That gene pool needed some chlorine.


25 posted on 03/10/2012 11:25:29 AM PST by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: carriage_hill

I am not talking about Van der Sloot.

This is a newer case.

This case has to do with a woman who willing went with a “stranger” to Aruba.

Please read my post #10 again.


26 posted on 03/10/2012 11:30:20 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: rogue yam

Legally carrying a weapon IS premeditated self defense.
2A wasnt included for sh!ts and giggles.


27 posted on 03/10/2012 11:45:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: rogue yam

Legally carrying a weapon IS premeditated self defense.
2A wasnt included for sh!ts and giggles.


28 posted on 03/10/2012 11:46:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I agree with what you said....I think women are getting dumber than when I was a young woman...some seem to think they need a man, any man....I love men, but not all of them, some just need to be avoided.


29 posted on 03/10/2012 11:52:37 AM PST by goat granny
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To: monocle
Is not anyone who legally carries a weapon premeditating its use for self defense?

You would 'lawfully carry' a weapon for offensive use?
Folks who have followed the rules of our society to carry weapons per those rules are very unlikely to do so for offensive reasons. They do recognize that there are those who do not follow the rules, and so they rightfully premeditate self-defense in the event they encounter such miscreants. There's also valid reason to carry a weapon outside of our society, such as going about the wilderness, and the chance encounter with an animal that may do you or your companions harm.

Weapons are tools, and as such should be selected thoughtfully for the scenarios you could become engaged in. A Colt .45 is a lousy hammer - a Nail-Gun is a lousy defensive weapon. Premeditation.

30 posted on 03/10/2012 12:00:18 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Cicero; Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); marktwain
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Boyfriend...........................Daddy


It's not hard to see why she picked this guy, on looks alone. Without therapy, both men and women tend to pick someone resembling their opposite-sex parent, no matter how abusive. Also, from the original newspaper story:

Andersen [the father] apparently had similar domestic violence issues. In 2009, Andersen also had a protection order filed against him by his wife. She claimed he was abusive toward her on numerous occasions. In the court documents, she claimed he pushed her, choked her and shook her to the point where she "could not breathe."

31 posted on 03/10/2012 12:06:04 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

This one?

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-09-14/news/30173777_1_cindy-anthony-caylee-jose-baez


32 posted on 03/10/2012 12:15:18 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: goat granny

“...some just need to be avoided.”

And this is where brains and just plain common sense are lacking!!!!

It is called “stupidity.”


33 posted on 03/10/2012 12:17:20 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: carriage_hill

It certainly appears to be so.

I did not know he was in the slammer in Aruba...Good.

Thank you.


34 posted on 03/10/2012 12:23:46 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: goat granny

goat granny,

I am laughing my head off….Our wonderful FR men are not willing to wade into this observation about women’s lack of brains in dating criminals and then getting whacked.


35 posted on 03/10/2012 12:44:01 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Sure sounds like he’s “lawyering-up”, doesn’t it?


36 posted on 03/10/2012 12:46:30 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: carriage_hill

The State is ALWAYS “lawyered up”. Shouldn’t a smart defendant do the same?


37 posted on 03/10/2012 12:48:32 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: carriage_hill

It sure does.


38 posted on 03/10/2012 12:55:35 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: monocle
Is not anyone who legally carries a weapon premeditating its use for self defense?

Not always. Some of us find it sporting to piss off liberals.

39 posted on 03/10/2012 1:01:07 PM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: TChris

Sure; I can’t blame him. I’m sure prison is beyond awful, and the death penalty is probably worse...


40 posted on 03/10/2012 1:02:45 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: monocle

I disagree with your comment but anyway, So What?


41 posted on 03/10/2012 1:04:30 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Andersen said he brought a gun to protect himself and was wearing surgical gloves because Grimm claimed to have HIV.

Oh, that's a good one I'll have to remember that. I guess Grimm won't be denying he said that now.

42 posted on 03/10/2012 1:50:56 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Defiant

I am reliably informed that “He needed killing “was at one time a legal defense in this state. Crying shame it generally is frowned on these days.


43 posted on 03/10/2012 2:30:50 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: Mmogamer; carriage_hill

Thanks!


44 posted on 03/10/2012 4:48:39 PM PST by jennings2004 (57 states? Kansas or Texas? American geography is so complicated....:)))
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To: marktwain

If you are going to confront a violent perp, you would be ready to wax him if he gave you the excuse.


45 posted on 03/10/2012 11:28:21 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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