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As Republican candidates pummel each other, Obama can only smile
Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 10, 2012 | by Brad Knickerbocker

Posted on 03/10/2012 2:54:13 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

As the Republican presidential candidates continue to battle and improvement in the US economy is seen, President Obama is getting better public reviews – good news for his re-election bid.

With eight months to go before the presidential election – can it really be that long? – a lot could go wrong for President Obama.

If Newt Gingrich were to do badly in next Tuesday’s primaries in Mississippi and Alabama and call it quits, that would leave Rick Santorum to concentrate his fire on front-runner Mitt Romney – who would have to respond, further delaying the point at which he can concentrate fulltime on Obama, return to his inherently moderate self, and hope to look presidential.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012
"Inherently moderate self"? Obama is a Marxist.
1 posted on 03/10/2012 2:54:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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>> If Newt Gingrich were to do badly in next Tuesday’s primaries in Mississippi and Alabama and call it quits

Ain’t gonna happen. Deal with it.


2 posted on 03/10/2012 2:56:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Actually, the real story here is as the only conservatives in the race pummel each other (Newt and Rick), both Obama and Mitt are smiling.

Obama wants to face Mitt.

He is just salivating at using Mitt’s sordid Progressive Liberal record to destroy him.


3 posted on 03/10/2012 2:57:17 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This so-called primary (rubber chicken fight) was supposed to be good for us. IMHO, it is the Mother of all Foot Shots. We primaried ourselves right out of the White House. Four more years for Barack the Kenyan Guy.


4 posted on 03/10/2012 2:57:32 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

>> Obama wants to face Mitt.

Mitt or Rick.


5 posted on 03/10/2012 2:59:10 PM PST by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Baloney.

Ubama has been preparing to run against Mitty Romney for four years.

He created OWS specifically to run against "Mr. Wall Street," AKA Mitt Romney.

The minute Romney clinches the nomination, we are going to be treated to state-controlled media focusing 24/7 on how rich Mr. Wall Street is and what a weird religion he subscribes to.

Whatever happens in the primary is irrelevant to that.

To say that any GOP candidate who actually tries to win the nomination is being selfish by not bowing out instead of bloodying Mr. Wall Street is delusional.

6 posted on 03/10/2012 3:07:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopaths.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No, because Republicans actually think and we’re trying to avoid the establishment candidate (Romney) who lost us the election last time (McCain).

But we don’t want a preachy, idea-free, big government Obama-clone (Santorum), either, and I think most of us are beginning to realize that.

And Paul shouldn’t even have been allowed to run in the GOP primaries, because the guy’s a libertarian (which means virtually radical left) and is messing up the race.

It would be like having Randall Terry run for the Dems...but hey, he’s doing that. I hope they like it. Except that they’ll probably nip him in the bud and his candidacy won’t get any further than a few counties in OK. Paul, on the other hand, has messed this thing up since the beginning.


7 posted on 03/10/2012 3:08:56 PM PST by livius
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The liberal media are smiling on Barack? Whoda thunk it!


8 posted on 03/10/2012 3:09:22 PM PST by raccoonnookkeeper
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I think we will see Gingrich and Santorum coalesce and most of their collective advocates will come together, making Mitt a has-been. Then we have the Republican ham sandwich that can beat Obama.


9 posted on 03/10/2012 3:09:27 PM PST by raccoonnookkeeper
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To: Gene Eric

Rick would kind of be like waving a cross in a vampire’s face. In the end the vampire looks to be the stupid one.


10 posted on 03/10/2012 3:09:35 PM PST by raccoonnookkeeper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The media are like mindless parrots with the harping on the Obama advantage because Republican candidates are pounding each other.Newsflash, the general election is not next week. Once the Republicans have a nominee, even if it is 2 months before the general election, all of the diviseness will be forgotten in a millisecond. The American electorate has the memory of a gnat when it comes to such things. It will only take the nominee a few days to put the primary focus back on Obama as the primary issue of the general election campaign.


11 posted on 03/10/2012 3:09:57 PM PST by chuckee
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Four more years for Barack the Kenyan Guy.

Unfortunately, I think you are right. I have been telling people to prepare for 4 more years of Obama. I am wondering if we will still have a country in 2016. I hope I am wrong, but I think Obama will win again.

12 posted on 03/10/2012 3:14:34 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

OMG! It’s called a Primary! It happens every 4 years! Candidates running for their party’s nomination sling mud at each other. It’s what they do. I’ve never seen the media make such an issue of this before. All is usually forgotten in the general, but you can be sure the media will drag out even the slightest disparaging remark made by the others to the eventual nominee. Disgusting.


13 posted on 03/10/2012 3:15:29 PM PST by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have, for years, been a very strong advocate of taking a national viewpoint to every congressional and senate race. And I very strongly believe that this is the only way to actually secure the White House for Republicans. We really need a very strong speaker for the House. None of these wishy-washy limp-wristed fat cats, but someone who will take the reigns of the House and really tick off a lot of people.

If that could happen, if there could actually be a campaign to make a real opposition congress, I could possibly put up with voting for Romney. It has to be a conservative opposition that ends this massive deficit spending, that ends the nationalization of mortgages, that ends the nationalization of college loans, that ends the nationalization of companies - that is really prepared to stand up and go up against liberals on either side of the aisle.


14 posted on 03/10/2012 3:18:18 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Mark17

I’m with you. Barry owns the government and is now changing and writing the rules of how HIS America is going to be. His “courts” won’t allow Americans to stop voter fraud. He’s using taxpayer (OUR) dollars to buy votes and get himself re-elected. We really don’t stand a chance. IMHO.


15 posted on 03/10/2012 3:18:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: Gene Eric

Obama don’t car who he will face. He will just follow what the Jewish Mafia leader, David Axelrod, tells him what to do.


16 posted on 03/10/2012 3:22:03 PM PST by AGreatPer (Obama has NEVER given a speech where he did not lie!!!)
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To: kingu

“We really need a very strong speaker for the House. None of these wishy-washy limp-wristed fat cats, but someone who will take the reigns of the House and really tick off a lot of people.”

I fully agree with your sentiments. However, taking majority control of the Senate is crucial. We can have a strong conservative Speaker but all his efforts will go to waste if the Senate is still in Dem control.The deficits will continue to mount as the Senate Dems kill off efforts to reduce it.


17 posted on 03/10/2012 3:22:57 PM PST by chuckee
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To: Mark17
I hope I am wrong, but I think Obama will win again.

You are not swayed by polls showing that both Romney and Santorum now lead the Zero?

Nor by polls which register that fully 50% of adults -- and a majority of Independents -- consider Obama's presidency to be a "failure"?

Even when you can see for yourself that there is no way a President with Zero's record could ever even aspire to being re-elected?

Note that these polls are in spite of the conventional Beltway and Media wisdom that Obama is "safe" and an absolute "shoo-in".

Who's wrong, huh? The polls or the "conventional Beltway and Media wisdom"?

Yes, we're talking about Republicans -- who have the unique ability to drop the ball while in the midst of a 60-yd TD run in an open field. But, on the other hand, we're talking about the American people -- who, as a group, are a lot smarter (and wiser) than any five hundred talking heads in D.C.

18 posted on 03/10/2012 3:29:41 PM PST by okie01 (/i>On Parade)
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To: chuckee

No reminders of how Hilary and Barry pummeled one another until June of 2008.


19 posted on 03/10/2012 3:30:54 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: okie01

Polls , eight months before the election, mean squat.


20 posted on 03/10/2012 3:31:32 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

if it don’t kill you - it makes you stronger. Calling another guy a liar, is hardly hardball or enough to make a good candidate a loser. As long as 51% of folks think this is a failed president or that gas is over $3.00 you can bet the sitting pres is in trouble.


21 posted on 03/10/2012 3:37:19 PM PST by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: okie01
But, on the other hand, we're talking about the American people -- who, as a group, are a lot smarter (and wiser) than any five hundred talking heads in D.C.

I pray to the Lord you are right. I am just the eternal pessimist. I remember Clinton. I hope you are right. I don't know if we could ever recover from another 4 years of Obama.

22 posted on 03/10/2012 3:38:02 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: chuckee
The deficits will continue to mount as the Senate Dems kill off efforts to reduce it.

And when we win the Senate, it'll be the White House that is the stumbling block, and when we win the White House, it'll be Jupiter in the house of Aquarius that is suddenly the cause of deficit spending.

Every spending bill originates in the House. The House has enormous power under a strong leader - Look at Nancy Pelosi's shoving through of PelosiCare.

It's time we demand leaders within our party to step up and actually lead. None of this dancing around bipartisanship sellout of every conservative value there is. We've had some brief glimmers of it - over literally pennies of the federal deficit.

Oh, and stop blaming anyone BUT our leadership for the failure to control the spending they were elected to stop at the start of this Congress.

23 posted on 03/10/2012 3:41:58 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I am appalled at how the Republicans are behaving. There is no maturity, honor or brains among any of them. the people with the highest IQs are usually the ones with the least common sense! If Gingrich had stayed d in his statesman stance with Romney’s dirty tricks, he would still be at the top of his game. I am sick of the lot of them. As it now stands, with both Sasntorum and Gingrich staying in the race, only Romney’s nomination is assured!
There no longer is a Republican Party!


24 posted on 03/10/2012 3:43:15 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Marguerite
Polls , eight months before the election, mean squat.

True. But they are not without meaning.

Specifically: if the election were held today, they mean both Romney and Santorum would defeat Obama.

Which should give you an indication of how much love the voters have for The One.

Accordingly, it is hardly time to play GOP Establishment and "give up".

25 posted on 03/10/2012 3:44:05 PM PST by okie01 (/i>On Parade)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why is vetting a candidate so “un-PC” now? Because it’s the Republicans?


26 posted on 03/10/2012 3:47:39 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Jim "Firebrand" Robinson endorses Newt...with EPIC call to action!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Barry owns the government and is now changing and writing the rules of how HIS America is going to be...

Man! Take it easy!

This thing is long from over, and it's starting to turn our way. People are seeing the boy-king for what he is and even his most vocal supporters are having to rationalize their buts up a tree. So they're howling and snarling and snarking like crazy. A liberal can never be wrong, but a good many will wake up and find themselves no longer liberal. That's how it happened with me. Years ago, I woke up conservative.

Have you ever gotten scabies? I did once. Itched like hell until I finally went to the doc and got some lotion. I put the lotion on, following directions, and I swear the itch was double what it was before! I had to run out in the cold night air to get relief. Somebody explained that, when scabies die they crap their pants or something and that causes you to itch worse, but if you grit your teeth it will eventually get better.

I think that's what's happening to America; the scabies are dying.

27 posted on 03/10/2012 3:48:10 PM PST by tsomer
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To: tsomer

I hope you’re right. The voters in this country aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer.


28 posted on 03/10/2012 3:49:37 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The editor who wrote that headline is mixing the Kool-Aid AND drinking it.

Obama’s unpopularity is massive. People are sick of high gas prices, high unemployment, and low respectablity abroad. The infighting among the Republicans might be good sport to watch, but like the Democrat party in ‘08, we WILL unite. Our desire to fire Obama in 2012 far exceeds the Democrat desire to replace a Republican four years ago.

Face it, people gave the guy a chance. Now they know he SUCKS. Of course WE at FR knew that...we follow this political stuff every day. But Joe Six Pack out there isn’t stupid. He knows this jackass has made things worse, and he won’t forget in November.


29 posted on 03/10/2012 3:58:00 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: okie01

“Specifically: if the election were held today, they mean both Romney and Santorum would defeat Obama.”

Specifically: the election takes place on November 5, the Tampa Convention is in August, and we are March 10. Loooong way to go.


30 posted on 03/10/2012 4:30:11 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Face it, people gave the guy a chance. Now they know he SUCKS.

I agree completely. Obama can crow all he wants about the economy, but that's a losing strategy. Too many people are still unemployed, or under-employed, for that to be successful, even with the daily help of the MSM. I also don't think the "I voted for Barack so I can't be racist" voters will feel the need to punch that ticket again.

As it stands right now, Obama is toast. His only real strategy is to hope the GOP nominee slips up.

31 posted on 03/10/2012 4:37:57 PM PST by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Marguerite
Specifically: the election takes place on November 5, the Tampa Convention is in August, and we are March 10. Loooong way to go.

Of course. But, as of today, the results indicate we are winning.

Why give up?

That was my argument. Are you arguing otherwise?

32 posted on 03/10/2012 4:53:03 PM PST by okie01 (/i>On Parade)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Obama can only smile...

Rasmussen 3/10/12

Romney 48 Obama 43

Santorum 46 Obama 45


33 posted on 03/10/2012 4:59:58 PM PST by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: okie01

I think neither Mitt, nor Rick can beat Obama. There are not enough difference between them.

Romneycare=Obamacare.
Gov.Romney pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-gay marriage, pro-taxes and fees in Massachusetts.
Obama - all of the above on national level.

Santorum pro-big government, pro-unions, pro-big spending.
Obama, all of the above.

Neither is capable to unite the Republican voters under their banner. Neither is a good debater. Either of them would lose.

Obama will have plenty of money, the whole media and his position of incumbent. Plus a lot of dirt already prepared in Axelrod’s files.


34 posted on 03/10/2012 5:41:32 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: okie01

Romney 2002: “I am big believer in getting money where the money is. The money is in Washington.” From the man who claimes he never had been in Washington...

http://youtu.be/lgYLBk_0t6w


35 posted on 03/10/2012 6:19:22 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite
I think neither Mitt, nor Rick can beat Obama. There are not enough difference between them.

Jeez, then, why should we even try?

Let's just give up now. And save Obama the trouble.

Such spirit...

36 posted on 03/10/2012 7:25:05 PM PST by okie01 (/i>On Parade)
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To: okie01

Rick could beat him if he picks Newt as V.P. and openly adopts more of Newt’s platform. Mitt is a hopeless case. He’s Obama lite on everything except some economic issues, but it’s looking very doubtful that the economy will be an issue in November after job gains for the last couple months were revised up from the 10s of thousands to the 100s of thousands. We need to run against Obamacare, against food stamps, against wasteful environmental policies, against abortion/gay marriage, against liberal Supreme Court rulings, against cutting the military, against the left-wing approach to government in general and FOR new, big, bold ideas like Newt provides. Rick has the same “nice guy,” trustworthiness appeal that G.W. Bush did. But he would need someone like Cheney and Newt to add intellect, experience and gravitas.


37 posted on 03/10/2012 7:32:29 PM PST by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: chuckee

I agree with your #11 posting and will add to those thoughts that if the GOP DOESN’T let their contest continue for several more months (maybe June-Aug), it will only give the Obama machine more time to trash the nominee.

I think the prolonged primary process for the GOP is a plus for that reason and also because Conservatives and others in the GOP will have a firm grasp on whom they wish to cast votes.


38 posted on 03/11/2012 3:45:13 AM PDT by octex
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To: chuckee

Exactly, chuckee!

Conservative Republicans HAVE to win majorities in the House and Senate. ....Then, even if BHO does win re-election, we’ve got him blocked from doing as much damage as he has brought to the US in only 3 years in office.


39 posted on 03/11/2012 4:04:30 AM PDT by octex
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To: tsomer

Have you ever gotten scabies? I did once. Itched like hell until I finally went to the doc and got some lotion. I put the lotion on, following directions, and I swear the itch was double what it was before! I had to run out in the cold night air to get relief. Somebody explained that, when scabies die they crap their pants or something and that causes you to itch worse, but if you grit your teeth it will eventually get better.
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Fantastic analogy, tsomer!! ROFLMAO!


40 posted on 03/11/2012 4:24:15 AM PDT by octex
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