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US Soldier 'Kills 16' Afghans In Their Homes
Sky News ^ | 12:14pm GMT, UK, Sunday March 11, 2012 | Sky News Staff

Posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:47 AM PDT by DCBryan1

A US soldier has killed 16 Afghan civilians, including nine children, after entering their homes in Kandahar. Sky sources said the Afghan victims also included women and elderly men.

Minister of Border and Tribal Affairs Asadullah Khalid, who is investigating the incident, said the soldier entered three homes, killing 11 people in the first one.

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) coalition confirmed the incident but did not release the number of killed or injured.

Sky defence reporter Mark Stone said: "Details are still sketchy and various death tolls have emerged.

"It appears to be an isolated incident and the soldier is believed to have been a staff sergeant."

Isaf Deputy Commander Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw said: "I wish to convey my profound regrets and dismay at the actions apparently taken by one coalition member in Kandahar province.

"I cannot explain the motivation behind such callous acts, but they were in no way part of authorised ISAF military activity."

According to the Panjwai district governor office, seven people died and up to 17 injured were injured in the rampage.

The injured have been treated for their wounds at Nato medical facilities.

Protests were held over the Koran-burning incident

The US embassy in Kabul attempted to quell expected Afghan unrest by also issuing an apology.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Well, I'd like to know the rest of the story. Young grenadier shooting an M203 HE round into a house where a Terrorist just fled to, full of women and children, would account for such an action.

I refuse to believe, until further proof, that some American soldier just walked in and started killing simply for the sake of killing....however, stranger things have happened, and with the likes of MAJ Hasan, the little fag in the wikileaks case, etc within the ranks, nothing would suprise me.

Methinks the whole story hasn't been told yet, but if this breaks as hard as it is on Fox/CNN as it is on BBC and Sky News as it is now.....watch out.

1 posted on 03/11/2012 5:35:53 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

But the important thing is that no Korans were burned.


2 posted on 03/11/2012 5:37:48 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: DCBryan1

Maybe he was enraged when they burned a few bibles.


3 posted on 03/11/2012 5:42:57 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo; vladimir998

Don’t be silly. This was simply an isolated incident of workplace violence! <./BigSis>


5 posted on 03/11/2012 5:45:08 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the lawyers, FIRST kill the journalists!"- Die Ritter, die "nee" sagen)
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To: DCBryan1

After the nationwide rioting and killings motivated by the burning of the terrorist Korans, buckle up for this one.


6 posted on 03/11/2012 5:46:20 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Leep

It’s Sunday morning. Can we hold off on the moronic comments for a few hours?


7 posted on 03/11/2012 5:47:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Truth29
buckle up for this one.

This is definately a "hold onto your butts" moment. Prayers to our troops!

8 posted on 03/11/2012 6:00:46 AM PDT by DCBryan1 ("Forget the lawyers, FIRST kill the journalists!"- Die Ritter, die "nee" sagen)
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To: 1rudeboy

Can we? :)


9 posted on 03/11/2012 6:03:39 AM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: Leep

Apparently not.


10 posted on 03/11/2012 6:05:02 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DCBryan1

He will be allowed to be tried by the Afganis and either stoned to death or beheaded for the world to see the power of Islam, thank you mr president!


11 posted on 03/11/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: DCBryan1

Gust a guess lacking anything but speculation...

He snapped and the people involved were honor killers/killers of a local ‘friend’ or other similar person that he had personal knowledge of/involvement. Surprised it has not happened more


12 posted on 03/11/2012 6:09:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: DCBryan1

My take:

If true The O will use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan. If untrue, The O will still use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan.


13 posted on 03/11/2012 6:25:55 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: DCBryan1
Minister of Border and Tribal Affairs Asadullah Khalid, who is investigating the incident, said the soldier entered three homes, killing 11 people in the first one.

Not good enough source, because muslim=liar.

Let's hear from a non-knuckledragger.

14 posted on 03/11/2012 6:27:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: DCBryan1

The cover story is this soldier left the barracks on his own early in the morning and began his “rampage”. The media will crucify this guy and the President will hang him out to dry. Hell they will probably call him a terrorist since its an attack on Muslims.


16 posted on 03/11/2012 6:32:40 AM PDT by eak3
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To: ronnie raygun

They don’t like it when they get a taste of their own medicine I see...


17 posted on 03/11/2012 6:33:51 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: ronnie raygun

They don’t like it when they get a taste of their own medicine I see...


18 posted on 03/11/2012 6:33:53 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: 1rudeboy
It’s Sunday morning. Can we hold off on the moronic comments for a few hours?

Why? Many among us will today, go to a place where truly moronic, and anti American sentiments will be expressed in the name of worship. Statements here reek of likely truth laced with sarcasm.

19 posted on 03/11/2012 6:36:47 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: BigCinBigD

Really? Reward him?

Will you also reward the people who are going to be maimed and possibly die because of the riots that will occur over this?

Sure, toss them a purple heart and feel bad with the kid no with no legs as you stroll on.

This is a horrendous act. And, this will end up with the Taliban winning.

I know your comment was not “serious”, but this is a bad, bad thing. This idiot just kicked over a really big ant hill.


20 posted on 03/11/2012 6:37:15 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: DCBryan1

I believe Obama is deliberately bleeding out our troops, money, and ammunition in Afghanistan while at the same time providing the means for both Pakistan and Afghanistan to abandon both their alliance with the US against terror and a Constitution supposedly affirming religious freedom - and instead follow the “Muslim agenda” of full, unapologetic sharia (an agenda Obama told the Egyptian ambassador he supports, as he was and still is a Muslim).

As you say, this could be the press misrepresenting a battle scenario. Or it could be Obama himself planting somebody there with orders to do something like this to further enrage the Afghanistanis - to help cover the fact that Obama’s apologies did NOT stop the violence in Afghanistan and to serve the “Muslim agenda” in the way mentioned in the previous paragraph.

I really, really hope that people in the military leadership - if there are any who are still faithful to their oaths to protect this country and its Constitution - will seriously consider that the enemies DOMESTIC are the most dangerous ones, and particularly since both communism and Islamism (America’s 2 greatest enemies) have said their tactic will be to degrade our system FROM WITHIN.


21 posted on 03/11/2012 6:40:52 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Vermont Lt

I can’t honestly defend what this guy did...but the Taliban have already won. Afghan’s prez is already working out surrender details. Time to leave that hell hole.


22 posted on 03/11/2012 6:41:12 AM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: DCBryan1

I’ve seen it on Foxnews:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/11/us-service-member-detained-for-allegedly-shooting-afghan-civilians-nato-says/#ixzz1ommuC4Oo?test=latestnews

Being the parent of a Marine over there now, I see this as a truly devastating event. The motives of the detained service member will be disclosed.

Justice.

THE SOLDIER MUST BE TRIED AT HOME.

How many Afghan citizens are murdered every week by the Taliban? Let’s see what the reaction of the Afghan people at this time.

If they riot and attack us for vengeance, if one of our military members is killed in vengeance,

I will say what I have not EVER said, “Get them all out,” because, if we are attacked in vengeance than in all justice the native Afghanistan people who riot should be rioting and avenging those murdered by the Taliban.

Period. If they avenge these people against our military, then they do not respect our just laws and consider us the enemy but do not consider the Taliban the enemy when they kill their own.

Karzai, this is another test for you, and another test for all the people of Afghanistan.

Petraus, if this military campaign falls apart it is because of YOUR strategies and God help the US with you as the head of the CIA.


23 posted on 03/11/2012 6:44:10 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: DCBryan1

There has to be more to the story. This guys was an E-6 and it is unlikely that he would just “go off” like that for no reason.


24 posted on 03/11/2012 6:44:37 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: All

Can someone tell me why we’re there?


25 posted on 03/11/2012 6:50:35 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: DCBryan1

——A US soldier has killed 16 Afghan civilians, including nine children,——

16 Afghan civilians.....or 16 Taliban ?

Nine children or nine young adult males ?

I’d wait to see the whole story..... If true.....firing sqad


26 posted on 03/11/2012 6:51:49 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: sand lake bar

I agree. Do we know what the actual mission is, more importantly do those serving know? Our leaders have recklessly deployed our military too many times where the mission is much more complex than winning the war. We waste our treasure and military lives defending corrupt governments that are not even pro USA. Get our military out now and start defending the USA borders.


28 posted on 03/11/2012 6:57:10 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Vermont Lt

You know I bet most who think we should be over there haven’t spent a minute in uniform.


29 posted on 03/11/2012 6:59:32 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: DCBryan1

Nothing is what it appears to be with this administration. I refuse the article pending hard facts from a source independent of the administration that’s not full blown socialist.


30 posted on 03/11/2012 7:01:16 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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Time to pull out of both Iraq and Trashcanistan. Take back everything that we can and blow up everything we cant. If these pigs want to wallow in their own filth,let them. They dont deserve our brave service men and women.
Most Muslims are little more than the apes the Left say we descendant from.
31 posted on 03/11/2012 7:01:23 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: DCBryan1
When I read a story like this I can't help but remember that one pointed remark in the infamous monologue of Col. Kurtz (played by Marlon Brando) in the movie Apocalypse Now.

"You train young men to drop fire on people, but you won't let them write 'F#&K' on the side of their airplanes . . . because it's 'obscene'!"

It's amazing how disconnected I am from what goes on in that sh!t-hole over there. When I read the post just now, my first reaction was: "If a U.S. soldier flipped out and killed 16 civilians, I guess it's better there than here."

32 posted on 03/11/2012 7:01:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: DCBryan1

Given where this happened, there could be some rather extreme back story.

I would not rule out, perhaps even a local gf honor killed or something.

Be nice if everyone waited for the whole story.


33 posted on 03/11/2012 7:04:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Vermont Lt

Nation Building screw that.


34 posted on 03/11/2012 7:11:12 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: vladimir998
But the important thing is that no Korans were burned.

Seriously. I mean, this soldier went insane and killed 16 civilians, but at least he didn't do anything really awful and burn a Koran.

35 posted on 03/11/2012 7:14:07 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: DCBryan1

Funny how they are NATO troops when they are killed and US troops when they kill.


36 posted on 03/11/2012 7:15:59 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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Don't be surprised if obama uses this as a trigger event for immediate withdrawal.

Now I personally think we should have left years ago, that said. obama and the administration will use this or a trio of events like this, including the koran burning to bug out.

He will have us leave in shame, apologizing all the way home while he quietly rejoices at destroying America's military.

37 posted on 03/11/2012 7:17:53 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: DCBryan1
"Details are still sketchy and various death tolls have emerged.

But that won't stop us from apologizing (read advertising) now and endangering all the other troops.

38 posted on 03/11/2012 7:29:17 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: DCBryan1
Sounds like what Bob Kerrey (D-NYNE) did in Vietnam?
39 posted on 03/11/2012 7:42:49 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: DCBryan1

I’m surprised there haven’t been more cases. our young men and women are trained as warriors, then shackled and turned into non-retributive targets. It has to take a tremendous emotional toll to see us ignoring the atrocities of the enemy (if you can still refer to them as “enemy”, and punishing our guys for defending themselves in hot zones or for burning “sacred” korans whie ordering the burning of Bibles as a concession to the enemy. It sickens me as a retired AF troop and I was never put in harms way.


40 posted on 03/11/2012 7:49:18 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: InterceptPoint

“If true The O will use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan. If untrue, The O will still use the incident to accelerate our withdrawal from Afghanistan.”

I really don’t care anymore. Just get our troops out of there.

There’s no point in our being there any longer. There’s no point in another American soldier being killed or wounded there. Nothing we do (or refrain from doing) at this point is going to “save” the Afghans from a fate they seem to -want-. Nothing we do is going to turn them from Islam.

We -might- have “turned them” from Islam, but it would have involved actions that would have been perceived on the world stage as totalitarian, draconian, and unacceptable. We weren’t willing to do that, so the results we are seeing are the predictable product of an ill-conceived mission.

There’s no logical reason to waste our blood and our time and treasure there any more. Let the Afghans rot in a mess of their own making.

That’s my opinion only.
I realize yours may be different.


41 posted on 03/11/2012 7:51:06 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: vladimir998

“Never give an order that can’t be obeyed.” —Douglas MacArthur

I’m hopeful that this is an explainable incident. Our soldiers are very well trained, but that some crack under the nutty ROE and the fact that any action they take against a wily and pernicious enemy may end in court martial is wholly believable as well.

The best case result of our “nation-building” efforts among the practitioners of Islam is that Islam in its Wahhabist or Salafist form is incompatible with liberty as understood and practiced in America. Given that both Iraq and Afghanistan aren’t crucibles of mad anti-American strife gives me hope for Muslims outside of America.

Right in the heart of Islam there are a majority of Muslims who just want to live life and improve their lot is a good thing. That there were no riots in the US speaks to this.


42 posted on 03/11/2012 8:03:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: DCBryan1

Agreed. And I’m afraid neither side will tell us the truth. The muzzies won’t because they lie and want to hit us anyway they can and our side due to fear of upsetting the muzzies. Most likely it was justified as a part of a war, like you said, terrorists hiding behind skirts and chilren, but our higher ups have been hit with the lefts poliitcal correctness.


43 posted on 03/11/2012 8:04:29 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: Leep

Your comment is both dumb and unAmerican.


44 posted on 03/11/2012 8:04:40 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Popman

Good analysis. If they were over the age of 12 they may already be stone killers and obviously every Taliban is a civilian.


45 posted on 03/11/2012 8:08:13 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Road Glide

So nobama can kill a US citizen as he pleases or others when a drone blows when he feels like it. So...what’s the issue here?


46 posted on 03/11/2012 8:08:53 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: huldah1776
I concur, the soldier's action is a symptom of the overall disease. The heart of the disease are the State Dept./Pentagon/Base Commanders who eagerly kiss a$$/White House etc... leadership and strategy.

I cannot believe they are flirting with the idea of turning the Bagram prison over to the Nationals to run. That would be suicidal; Afghan is a perpetual House of Horrors on those who are forced to adhere to COIN.

47 posted on 03/11/2012 8:08:53 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Road Glide

All the nations of the ME are incapable of governing themselves(save Israel). It has been proven time and again. The failures stretch back many centuries. They fare better when ruled by a benevolent empire.

And we haven’t the belly for empire.

We never should have attempted nation building..it’s nonsense.

When aroused to anger by their madness we should just destroy their entire infrastructure from the air and lift not a finger to help them out of their squalor and insanity.

Hire mercenaries and issue letters of marque and reprisal against their shipping. Assassinate any abusive leaders, blockade their ports, allow no air traffic in or out of their countries. Jam their communications non-stop. Disconnect their fiber links to the net. Destroy their bridges and major roadways.

Keep the bastards so busy trying to survive that they have little time to throw acid in little girls faces as they walk to school.

Yup, I’m pissed.


48 posted on 03/11/2012 8:12:06 AM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: 1010RD

While calling for Sharia, get real, Islam is a gutter religion based on a false prophet who took advantage of Hagar’s son (Even God said the nation spawned from Ishmael would never want to get along with his brother). Muslims are a bunch of perpetual ingrates who need to be left alone to their own devices.


49 posted on 03/11/2012 8:18:05 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: DCBryan1

It’s not inconceivable that somebody should snap. But it’s not inconceivable that the MSM is doing what it does best, too.


50 posted on 03/11/2012 8:22:52 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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