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Bigotry on the Playing Field (NYT editorial)
New York Times ^ | March 11, 2012

Posted on 03/12/2012 7:14:12 AM PDT by reaganaut1

Intolerance seems to be part of the message sent to student-athletes on the sporting fields of Texas. Only under legal pressure and public criticism did the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, which organizes competitions for more than 200 schools, recently agree to accommodate an Orthodox Jewish school and reschedule a basketball game that would have violated the Sabbath.

The association’s ignorance and bigotry toward Islamic schools is more stunning. As reported in The Times, one Islamic high school that sought to join the association, known as Tapps, in 2010 got a questionnaire that asked the school: “It is our understanding that the Koran tells you not to mix with (and even eliminate) the infidels. Christians and Jews fall into that category. Why do you wish to join an organization whose membership is in disagreement with your religious beliefs?” It also asked: “What is your attitude about the spread of Islam in America?”

The school, the Iman Academy SW in Houston, wanted to join the local soccer competition. It filled out the questionnaire and was denied membership. “Our kids are just as American as their kids,” an academy official said. “We just wanted to play ball.” At least two other Islamic schools declined to respond to the questionnaire.

Tapps also has surveyed member schools about allowing in Islamic schools. Sixty-three percent of 83 respondents rejected Islamic schools for membership in 2010, according to school officials. The others said it was in Tapps’s best interest to be open. Ten schools said they would quit Tapps if Islamic members were admitted.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: islam; muslimstudents
Their understanding is correct.
1 posted on 03/12/2012 7:14:18 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Sorry, NYT, but I don’t give a hairy, smelly Obama about anything Muslim anymore.

They’ve amply demonstrated that they are not a religion, but an evil that sooner or later will have to be dealt with.


2 posted on 03/12/2012 7:15:52 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: reaganaut1

Question 3.) If you lose a football game. Would you want to kill the infidel?


3 posted on 03/12/2012 7:19:17 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: reaganaut1

Completely reasonable questions deserving answers.


4 posted on 03/12/2012 7:19:56 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: reaganaut1

I wonder if any of the Islamic schools responded to the questions by saying that Islam doesn’t teach those things. Of course, it would just be taqiyya if they did claim that, but it’s interesting to see if they would be willing to go on the record regarding that.

I remember reading an article talking about how Prince Charles got together a bunch of Islamic “moderates” to condemn terrorism - but he couldn’t find anybody among those “moderates” who was willing to disagree with the statement that Islam requires the subjugation or killing of “infidels”. And that’s among the “moderates”!


5 posted on 03/12/2012 7:20:06 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: reaganaut1

Exactly
Muslims must according to their holy book and to sharia hate Christians and Jews
so who is the bigot here?


6 posted on 03/12/2012 7:21:40 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: reaganaut1
Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools

An organization created, no doubt, to be able to control the exposure of their students to the riff-raff of the world.
We home schooled for the same reason.

Just another reason to be a proud Texan!

7 posted on 03/12/2012 7:22:38 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: reaganaut1

Bigotry and intolerance is on display at the NYT editorial board.


8 posted on 03/12/2012 7:24:25 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Marc Levin)
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To: reaganaut1
The NYTs, full of BS again.

It took less than a few days for the Association to reverse its decision. Once members of the Jewish Community explained the significance of how they honor the Sabbath to the Association, they agreed to reschedule the game (which the Jewish team promptly won). Yes, there was a lawsuit filed as an emergency injuction (because time was NOT on the team's side), but it was withdrawn and lasted a whole 2 days.

Contrary to the spin of the NY Slimes, Texans are not anti-Jewish.

9 posted on 03/12/2012 7:30:55 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Riding the Long-Wave Economic Contraction, Baby!)
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To: reaganaut1

The NYT does not give a rat’s ass about the orthodox jewish school they open the article with, who do they think they are fooling?

I don’t favor prejudice against any school but these leftist idiots drool over a muslim religion that would shut them down in a heartbeat, that accepts none of their liberal ways of life.


10 posted on 03/12/2012 7:31:00 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: butterdezillion
I remember reading an article talking about how Prince Charles got together a bunch of Islamic “moderates” to condemn terrorism - but he couldn’t find anybody among those “moderates” who was willing to disagree with the statement that Islam requires the subjugation or killing of “infidels”. And that’s among the “moderates”!

Not saying this is the case, but I have a well educated friend (Canadian) who took a college class from one of these moderate Muslims. One day, her class started asking these type of questions and the female professor got visibly very nervous. She finally agreed to speak off the record on the condition that the class respect her request to speak off the record and turn off the lights so there would be no recorded proof of what she actually said.

She then spoke through a voice alteration device and explained than many moderate Muslims, even in the west, were afraid to speak out against terrorist lest they become victims. She explained about concepts like taqiyya and explained that even in the ranks of so-called Muslim moderates that there were many spies intent on silencing discussion. My friend said she sounded genuinely sincere and genuinely frightened and, thus, the extraordinary steps taken to conceal her real identity just for speaking the truth.

11 posted on 03/12/2012 7:32:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: reaganaut1
Why must we be tolerant to the intolerant?

12 posted on 03/12/2012 7:33:37 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: reaganaut1

Dear New York Times,

When you have corrected all the problems in New York maybe then you can stick you nose in the business of Texas.


13 posted on 03/12/2012 7:36:28 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: BitWielder1

When I was a kid in the 80s, whenever there was a Jewish holiday, our soccer team just played short a few guys. They observed the holiday, and didn’t ask the games to be rescheduled.


14 posted on 03/12/2012 7:38:39 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman ("Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented." -Jon Stewart)
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To: RWGinger
Its not about bigotry, its about self-fulfilling prophecies.

In this case the prophecy is about what the muslim(s) may do(be a terrorist).

The self fulfilling part of the prophecy is that the action of preventing assimilation(participating in sports) insures that the muslim will become a terrorist

15 posted on 03/12/2012 7:40:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Da Coyote

The NYTs REAL problem = PRIVATE Christian schools

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The Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, or TAPPS, is an organization headquartered in the Salado Civic Center in downtown Salado, Texas. It creates rules for, and sometimes administers, almost all athletic and academic contests for non-public high schools in the American state of Texas. (Texas, unlike most states, has separate organizations for public and private schools, but public and private schools may schedule each other in competition.)

Activities range from football and other sports to academic and fine arts competitions.

As of 2012 TAPPS organizes competitions for over 200 private schools in Texas.

TAPPS was established in the 1970s in order to coordinate athletic competitions among Christian schools.

In 2010 Iman Academy Southwest, a Muslim school, submitted an application to join TAPPS. TAPPS responded by asking Iman to complete a questionnaire with questions like “Historically, there is nothing in the Koran that fully embraces Christianity or Judaism in the way a Christian and/or a Jew understands his religion. Why, then, are you interested in joining an association whose basic beliefs your religion condemns?” Iman Academy SW did not fill out the questionnaire and the attached application, and TAPPS denied Iman SW admission into the league. Iman SW did not appeal the decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Association_of_Private_and_Parochial_Schools


16 posted on 03/12/2012 7:42:09 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Vigilanteman

That wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

It’s sort of like how even the “conservative” media folks tiptoe around Obama’s eligibility.

That’s why terrorism is used; it’s effective.

Against that backdrop, consider Barack Obama - who, if he were telling the truth, would be an apostate Muslim who wants to fight Muslim terrorism. If “moderates” are afraid to say anything because they know they would then become targets, why is Obama not a target?

Because they know he’s lying to us. They know it because he was installed by them to lie to us.


17 posted on 03/12/2012 7:46:54 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: reaganaut1

Don’t Mess with Texas!


18 posted on 03/12/2012 7:47:38 AM PDT by Misplaced Texan (July 4, 2009 - the first day of the 2nd Revolution!)
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To: butterdezillion

Iman Academy SW was given a questionnaire. Among the questions:

–“Historically, there is nothing in the Koran that fully embraces Christianity or Judaism in the way a Christian and/or a Jew understands his religion. Why, then, are you interested in joining an association whose basic beliefs your religion condemns?”

–“It is our understanding that the Koran tells you not to mix with (and even eliminate) the infidels. Christians and Jews fall into that category. Why do you wish to join an organization whose membership is in disagreement with your religious beliefs?”

–“How does your school address certain Christian concepts? (i.e. celebrating Christmas)”

The private-schools association, known by the acronym Tapps, was established in the 1970s to coordinate sports among Christian schools.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/features/news/muslim-school-denied-entry-into-texas-private-school-sports-league/


19 posted on 03/12/2012 7:48:32 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: VA_Gentleman

Was that in the public schools?

This is private schools, so this is a non-governmental association I would presume.


20 posted on 03/12/2012 7:48:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Da Coyote

21 posted on 03/12/2012 7:49:14 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: reaganaut1

I’ll bet the NYT editors sneered at Eric Liddell in “Chariots of Fire”.


22 posted on 03/12/2012 7:51:39 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: nhwingut
Question 3.) If you lose a football game. Would you want to kill the infidel?

Answer: yes Muslim Football Players in Dearborn Heights Arrested for Assault on Christian Quarterback.

The team from the Islamic school REALLY did not like losing 48-6 last October, so four of them ripped off the opposing quarterback's helmet and punched and kicked him into a concussion.

23 posted on 03/12/2012 7:52:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: reaganaut1

I love the line “Our kids are just as American as their kids”. It is a line born of the Socialists and their partners in crime, the GOP Country clubbers, who have insisted on the open borders policy since its inception in the 1960’s as co-authored by Edward Kennedy. What it really says is that anyone with the price of a ticket into the U.S. is “American”. And of course it neatly dodges the issue of the inherent religious intolerance of the writ into the Muslim religion. Ah, but the sword will one day fly both ways. I hope I live long enough to see the Muslim cohorts brutally clearing the California beaches of their stoned, bikini clad hedonist trash one fine summers day. Already in parts of LA the “religion of tolerance” is forcing the closing of liquor stores in and near their neighborhoods by acts of planned “swarm” violence wherein they trash the liquor stores in the name of Allah. By promoting the Muslim interests above all other religions in the hopes they’ll work to close the Christian churches, the Socialists are sowing the seeds of destruction of their precious pluralistic, multi-cultural hell.


24 posted on 03/12/2012 8:06:43 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Rich21IE

Why wouldnt they want these fun loving religion of peace fanatics join and change their league?


25 posted on 03/12/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by redflash ("A dog is a dog until you look him in the face, then he is Mr. Dog!")
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To: grobdriver
Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools

An organization created, no doubt, to be able to control the exposure of their students to the riff-raff of the world.


No....TAPPS was created to provide an umbrella organization to allow private schools in Texas to compete athletically and academically the same way the University Interscholastic League does for public schools. Home schooler in communities are allowed to join together and apply for admission.
26 posted on 03/12/2012 8:20:48 AM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: reaganaut1

That sounds like a legitimate question to me.
A Moslem High School joining Tapps looks someone is using the school to infiltrate the organization. First they join, then they demand “reasonable” concessions on issues that “offend” them, then Katy bar the door...


27 posted on 03/12/2012 8:21:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Williams
I don’t favor prejudice against any school

I do, even to the point of amending the first amendment to say, freedom of religion for all religions who do not advocate murdering people of other religions.

Is it "prejudice" to detest people who want to kill you? Be certain, the mooselimbs want to kill every non mooselimb, starting with the Jews and Christians - and in that order.

Screw them, I don't even want them breathing our country's air.

28 posted on 03/12/2012 8:25:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: VA_Gentleman
When I was a kid in the 80s, whenever there was a Jewish holiday, our soccer team just played short a few guys.

This is a Jewish school team, presumably all the players are Jewish. Plus, these are private schools we're talking about.

29 posted on 03/12/2012 8:29:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: BitWielder1

“Why must we be tolerant to the intolerant?”

Islam does not, cannot, must not deserve nor receive the same Constitutional protections as do the other religions — precisely because Islam is MORE THAN just a “religion”, but is a political and behavioral cult cloaked beneath the guise of being a religion.

We have only to look to Western Europe to see the harbinger of being “tolerant” towards Islam. Even though the Europeans may still have the chance to turn things around. from a realistic viewpoint it looks to me like their time may soon run out.

I realize my assertions go against what are generally seen as the ideals of conservatism, that is, to -truly- treat everyone as “equal” regardless of who they are. It’s wrenching to read Thomas Jefferson’s beautiful language in his Declaration and conclude that what he wrote was idealistic, rather than based on the realities of the world.

But the core of conservatism is to see, understand, and accept reality as it is, not as we “wish it could be” (see “liberalism” for that journey).

The reality is that all religions are NOT “alike”, and that there is at least one in the world that poses a clear, direct and imminent danger to everyone else. To give that one religion the same protections as we afford all others is to give it the weapon that it will eventually use to gain power and to defeat us.

That we might - that we ARE - doing exactly this goes beyond foolishness. It heralds the loss of our own values in the face of an opposing force - a force that would enslave and dhimmify us. That we might easily prevent and nip this threat in the bud but refuse to do so in the name of “equality” is, well, delusional. It will lead to our own destruction.

My opinion only. I realize others’ may be different.


30 posted on 03/12/2012 8:36:45 AM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

-——Islam does not, cannot, must not deserve nor receive the same Constitutional protections as do the other religions — precisely because Islam is MORE THAN just a “religion”, but is a political and behavioral cult cloaked beneath the guise of being a religion.———

Properly interpreted, the First Amendment can allow restrictions on Mohammed religious practice, at the state level. At the national level, immigration from Mohammedan countries must be stopped.

We must do this if we are to survive as a free people. Religious tolerance cannot include violently intolerant religions.


31 posted on 03/12/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Graybeard58

As to amending the First Amendment. I knew a law professor who specialized in drafting constitutions esp for Third World countries. He freely admitted the following story.

Because he was a Jew educated by the experience of the holocaust, he drafted wonderful constitutions and then included a provision outlawing any party with goals of destroying the principles in the constitution.

In numerous countries, the worst dictators used that provision to outlaw, imprison, and kill all opposition parties.

Amending the First Amendment is not the way to go.


32 posted on 03/12/2012 8:50:47 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: reaganaut1
Man I love this State.


33 posted on 03/12/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Williams
Amending the First Amendment is not the way to go.

Right. Nobody and no group should be exempt from criticism, we must object to the cries of Blasphemy or Racism when we speak up about real problems.

The 1:st Amendment for all practical purposes has a exception against yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater, but now we are hushed even though there is a fire.

34 posted on 03/12/2012 9:01:35 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: redflash

Can’t imagine; I hear their cheerleaders are a real “blast” (drumroll).


35 posted on 03/12/2012 9:24:56 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: Ben Ficklin

I see your point but i don’t think this action by TAPP will create anymore terrorists than if TAPP allowed the muslim school in.

They are going to hate us and want to kill us NO MATTER WHAT

this action by TAPP doesn’t accerately the desire to kill us IMO


36 posted on 03/12/2012 9:28:46 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Rich21IE

These leagues need to require the balls be made out of real pig skins.


37 posted on 03/12/2012 9:34:56 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: kcvl

“Butts up!”

Some religion.


38 posted on 03/12/2012 9:49:24 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: reaganaut1

“At least two other Islamic schools declined to respond to the questionnaire.”

To do so would have implicated them.


39 posted on 03/13/2012 3:47:06 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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