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Posted on 03/12/2012 9:46:04 AM PDT by MV=PY
Opinion versus Fact: Why Opposing Beliefs Leave No Room for Compromise Between Republicans and Democrats
In Senator Jim DeMints new book, Now or Never, he boldly states, The differences between the Democratic and Republican Parties are irreconcilable: there can be no compromise between collectivism and freedom. How refreshing that someone in the U.S. Senate has the courage to speak the truth.
I totally concur with Senator DeMints position. The vast majority of Democrats are not interested in truth. They are not interested in logic. They are not interested in helping others. And they certainly are not interested in upholding and defending the Constitution...
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In Senator Jim DeMint's new book, Now or Never, he boldly states, "The differences between the Democratic and Republican Parties are irreconcilable: there can be no compromise between collectivism and freedom."
The New Democrats who’ve run the party, the media, and academia for decades were the bomb throwing, rioting radicals of the 1968. They rioted outside and inside the 1968 convention.
They are steeped in Marxism and overthrow of the Constitution. They allied with the North Vietnamese and domestic terrorist groups. Even John Kerry’s organization plotted to assassinate congressmen until sufficient support for the Vietnam War declined.
How do you negotiate with that? All you get is more incremental socialism and unelected Czars and EPA regulators.
Most republicans currently holding office clearly are not up to the task.
We need to start by totally reforming the party.
Unfortunately, while Candidate Romney is on our side in this divide, Mitt Romney in every second of his life other than while campaigning outside Massachusetts is on the other side in this battle for individual freedom. Governor Romney and the real Mitt Romney are big government collectivists who have no interest in individual freedom.
In the American system, "compromise" means moving a little to the Left. The Democrats are willing to "compromise", because they like to see political solutions move "a little to the Left". The Republicans are also willing to compromise because they don't want to get a lot of bad press -- and how much damage would it do if we just moved "a little to the Left" this time??
What the GOP needs to do is stop agreeing with the Collectivists. That trick never works.
Every attempt to enforce existing laws is met by naked force. Every discussion of a limited amnesty for illegals who might make good citizens is broadened to include gang bangers, jihadis, the unemployable and those who refuse to learn English or otherwise show any honest attempts to assimilate into American society rather than further Balkanize it.
La Raza, Mecha, Maldef and other nakedly racist groups are given an preferred place at the table to write such legislation while ordinary Americans are excluded.
"You can't deport everybody" has become the code phrase for "You can't deport anybody."
Now or Never:
Saving America from Economic Collapse
by Jim DeMint
Audible Unabridged Audio Edition
Ayn Rand's three rules of compromise:
1) In any conflict between two men (or two groups) who hold the aame basic principles, it is the more consistent one who wins.
2) In any collaboration between two men (or two groups) who hold different basic priciples, it is the more evil or irrational one who wins.
3) When opposite basic principles are clearly and openly defined, it works to the advantage of the rational side; when they are not clearly defined, but are hidden or evaded, it works to the advantage of the irrational side.
Very, very, very well said.
Senator DeMint's comment illustrates the extent of the great chasm between the ideas of liberty underlying that "great Constitution of liberty" and the ideas of arrogant men and women in government who assume unconstitutional coercive power over "We, the People," who, by the Constitution's own provisions, are its "only KEEPERS" (Justice Joseph Story in Commentaries on the Constitution").
Here, in America, in just a little moment of time, on one small sliver of land on the globe, a few Creator-endowed individuals, possessing the gift of reason, and utilizing the recorded ideas of history's most enlightened thinkers, created a document which made it possible for the light of liberty to change the world for over 200 years.
In an April 1859 letter to Messrs. Henry Pierce & Others, Abraham Lincoln's final paragraph:
"All honor to Jefferson--to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce into a merely revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that to-day, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers (initiators of threatening change) of re-appearing tyranny and oppression."
Finally, Thomas Jefferson's last letter, prior to his death on July 4, 1826, declared:
"May it [the Declaration of Independence] be to the world, what I believe it will be, (to some parts sooner, to others later, but finally to all,) the signal of arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves, and to assume the blessings and security of self-government. That form which we have substituted, restores the free right to the unbounded exercise of reason and freedom of opinion. All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace of God. These are grounds of hope for others. For ourselves, let the annual return of this day [July 4th] forever refresh our recollections of these rights, and an undiminished devotion to them. . . ." Thomas Jefferson, letter to Roger C Weightman, June 24, 1826
You will like the full article at the link.
Fifty years ago the Left's debating changed to screaming "Nazi!" "Bigot!" "Racist!". They adopted a tactic of swarming that was referred to a Mau-Mauing. The tactic included threats and actual violence.
To stop the Mau-Mauing and escape the physical danger the Right routinely submitted to an appalling dialectic where they yielded 90+ percent and the Left yielded at most ten percent. The Left moved a notch closer to their goals each time.
These 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats and their ideological issue now have their own Establishment and are within reach of their decades-old intent to secede from and destroy the Constitutional Republic and its social contract, freedoms and inalienable rights.
So bipartisanship, working together, finding common ground was rejected by the Left long ago.
It may take a patriot-dictator to right things -- every two-hundred-year-old republic is entitled to at least one. IMO going back to the 1970s.
Apparently Cardinal Timothy Dolan agrees with Demint.
Dolan has said, “Our First Amendment Rights are not negotiable.”
Conservatives have been “taking a step back in the name of civility” for too long to remember.
The reason for this was that the left, as you say, threatens violence if we don’t “compromise”, and the right is unwilling to either get bloody or bloody someone else.
Folks, the next “step backward” is over a cliff.
There is no more time to avoid conflict with these people.
Time to get bloody. They intend to exterminate all opposition, it’s inherent in the tenets of communism.
"These people" have seceded from the Union. Arguably they are the Establishment. IMO it's as though the Confederacy is close to winning the War by infiltration.
RE: "There is no more time to avoid conflict with these people."
Will that really be necessary?
Whatever it takes let's get it over with before another country is strong enough to take advantage of our turmoil.
With our support patriots in position of authority, namely the military and law enforcement, should lead the charge.
I think that a lot of people think that the results of election 2012 will decide.
Here's just one of many reasons I think we are in for a storm caused by the ideology that created President Obama.
Americans massacred by crazed Muslim Islamist
SEARCH site:www.whitehouse.gov Malik Hasan - three hits since the shooting happened
1) Public Summary of the Inventory of Files Related to Fort Hood Shooting
2) Presidential Memorandum on Inventory of Files Related to Fort Hood Shooting
3) this appears to be a listing of all who have had dealings with the White House that includes someone with the the same last name, Hasan
Muslims massacred by crazed American
SEARCH site:www.whitehouse.gov afghanistan - there were several hits just for the past 24 hours.
Statement by the President on Civilian Deaths in Afghanistan
"I am deeply saddened by the reported killing and wounding of Afghan civilians. I offer my condolences to the families and loved ones of those who lost their lives, and to the people of Afghanistan, who have endured too much violence and suffering. This incident is tragic and shocking, and does not represent the exceptional character of our military and the respect that the United States has for the people of Afghanistan. I fully support Secretary Panettas and General Allens commitment to get the facts as quickly as possible and to hold accountable anyone responsible."
Screw the American families, I guess.
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