Posted on 03/12/2012 6:54:50 PM PDT by mitchell001
They are replaying the Alabama GOP Forum from earlier tonight on CSPAN at 9:55pm. Compare Santorum and Gingrich speeches here. Thanks for your review!
“If people are not consistent and mind their “Ps” and “Qs”, ....”
There’s nothing wrong with having a favorite candidate, but SOME of the Newt supporters get pretty vicious, and they’re not doing Newt any favors either.
“It was clear that Santorum has a solid grasp of this issue.”
Yes, indeed, and thanks for your summary of Rick’s interview with Mark Levin - excellent!
You're either clueless or a liar. Newt was anything but a backbencher. It's been described by Reagan's staff recently how Newt was recognized as a major, rare talent early on and given a high and prominent role in the party far beyond what his status of seniority would afford him. He was intimately involved in drafting the 1984 platform for one thing. And Newt didn't take credit for anything. By your logic, no team member can ever take credit for helping out in a team effort because they didn't do THE WHOLE THING themselves.
Newt did NOT oppose the ideals of the Tea Party! He lent his support to the Tea Party before Glenn Beck, he came up with the "Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less" theme in 2008, and he defended Sarah Palin
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/print/4463516
Gingrich’s ties to the tea party movement are deep and long-lasting.
In March 2009, when tea parties were just beginning to be organized, the Georgian pledged to use his prodigious mailing list at American Solutions to publicize the inaugural Tax Day event.
He posted a link on every website he owned, sent emails to everyone in his database and produced a video while publicly announcing his support of the tea party movement — long before radio talkers like Glenn Beck jumped on the bandwagon.
I shall return the favor.
Keep a good look out for those, too, 'kay?
I’m just saying it’s very hard to read the font. Maybe you want me to use Firefox or something. I just want to be able to actually read things people order me to read.
There’s a reason for standard fonts — they are easy to read. I don’t know why people go out of their way to make their words hard to read.
Your interpretation of the situation in this case is sorely lacking. However, I don’t want to be too dismissive, since Rick has on occasion done dissappointing things, like his bit with the weather information. Your picture you try to paint of an evil man sneaking around trying to get away with stuff is a bit hilarious, except that you clearly believe it.
Me? I am going to do my best to keep it above board and happy and jovial, and just return fire with fire all the while with a happy, respectful demeanor. ;-) Peace and out,
Nice try, I didn't order you to read anything. I very respectfully asked you to read something I had written, and let me know what you think it says about Santorum... that's all. People confront me all the time re Newt, I never take offense. I see it as an opportunity to make my best pitch for Newt. I appreciate having someone willing to listen.
Your picture you try to paint of an evil man sneaking around trying to get away with stuff is a bit hilarious, except that you clearly believe it.
I don't think Santorum is evil, I have never said such a thing. I believe he is duplicitous, he lies quite often, he steals stuff from Newt, more and more lately. And he is pious and self-righteous to a huge degree.
Maybe this is where we part ways in understanding the impact of what I wrote: I am from a military family. What Santorum did to those veterans was inexcusable and immoral. And I had some constitutional professor guy tell me it was using the govt to help buttress a chosen religion, which is really a bad thing to do constitutionally.
If you would like, I can send you the text, i did an image because I mentor a lot of people younger than me even, who really need visuals and text breakups to help their reading comp and ADHD...
Do you really think Santorum's supporters aren't vicious. I have had some pretty bad stuff said to me in this forum, and a mailbox with stuff even worse... don't be blind.
There’s nothing wrong with having a favorite candidate, but SOME of the SANTORUM supporters get pretty vicious, and they’re not doing Rick any favors either.
Sorry to cut in but one thing is for sure, the libs must be lurking and just eating all this stuff up (my missives (missiles?), included). stepping back, it is kind of unfortunate. Obongo is who should be the topic of our 24/7 wrath and ire.
Mark Levin: Newt had no role in supply-side economics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U6ZZ7EnWbM
Gingrich NOT standing up for Palin around his This Week Friends (Agrees with Will that she was a Gamble)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luwqRA0GWGc
Scozzafava Endorsement and Big Tent Republicanism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FETumfkPqwQ
Newt is a fraud. The only person he serves is himself. He exaggerates his accomplishments and involvement for exploitation.
well, we’re jostling, I guess. And we are learning stuff, at least I am, about making arguments, and trying not to get personal, and being succinct. And all that will come in handy when we are fighting barack. I hate all this stuff. The second Newt wins the election I am retiring from politics, until he runs for re-election. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGhy8LVwAo
Newt Gingrich asked about Palin’s Experience. Checkmate.
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/24/reagans-young-lieutenant/print
Reagan’s Young Lieutenant
By Jeffrey Lord on 1.24.12 @ 6:09AM
Lewis began meeting with key members already elected to the Platform Committee.
One of the first? That would be young Congressman Newt Gingrich, already serving as a member of the Platform Committee’s executive committee. The meeting took place in Gingrich’s basement book-lined House office, a cramped affair reflecting precisely how junior in rank Gingrich actually was in the House pecking order.
The meeting was pure Newt Gingrich. Precisely the kind of talk that so struck the Republican voters of South Carolina the other day and has captured Gingrich such a following in the GOP debates. It was filled with polite if barely disguised disdain for the American Left in general, and what he would later refer to as “the old, passive and reactive Republican party.”
Specifically in focus was Gingrich’s fear that the Republican RINO/Establishment members on the Platform Committee...would somehow try and moderate the Reagan Revolution with calls for tax increases or somehow lessening the Reagan demand for American military superiority over the Soviet Union.
Newt struck back. Hard. In private session — and public. Working with his fellow Young Turks Rep. Jack Kemp and Tom Loeffler from Texas, Newt Gingrich raised holy hell. What Dole was proposing was a violation of the Reagan 1980 platform, a gross violation of Reaganomics, and just plain dumb. With Democratic nominee Walter Mondale already out there pledging to raise taxes, this was effectively caving in to Mondale. Bob Dole, Newt snapped at one point, was nothing other than the “tax collector for the welfare state.”
The Gingrich work product? Making certain that Ronald Reagan was not put on record leaving the door open for any more ill-fated tax increases. Dole was furious with the young Newt — and, it might be noted, recently made a point of endorsing Mitt Romney. Hmmmmm.
http://www.newt.org/answers/#dede-scozzafava-endorsement
Newt has admitted it was a mistake to back Dede Scozzafava, the Republican nominee in the 2009 NY-23 special election.
Whether it was helping to build the Republican Party of Georgia back when Democrats controlled the entire state or leading the nationwide effort in 1994 to break 40 years of Democratic rule in the House, Newt has always tried to advance the cause of a truly conservative Republican party. This has always meant supporting the most conservative nominee possible as selected by Republican primary voters.
Therefore, Newt will almost always back the nominee of the Republican party and not back an independent candidate in a race against a Democratic candidate.
Newt still believes in this principle, however, he has admitted it was a mistake to back Dede Scozzafava, the Republican nominee in the 2009 NY-23 special election. Although she was the Republican nominee, the problem was that Republican primary voters did not pick her, the local party leaders did, otherwise her liberal views would have prevented her from becoming the nominee. The Conservative Party candidate whom Scozzafava was running against, Doug Hoffman, recently remarked about Newt’s endorsement of his rival, “I would advise other conservative republicans: Don’t hold this against him.”
Newt said this today,
“In Biloxi, Mississippi at the Gulf Coast Energy Summit, Gingrich blasted the Obama Administration for its energy policies, accusing the President of doing nothing to ease rising gasoline prices.
“These people are ideologically committed to a fantasy land,” Gingrich said, “and if you read the President’s energy speeches, he is in Cloud-Cuckoo Land.”
-Newt
Cloud-Cuckoo Land, what other republican talks like that? I love Newt..
Now, here is the official brochure of the AFRH's own website, describing the Retirement Home in Washington DC:
For more than a century and a half, veteran airmen, Marines, sailors and soldiers have enjoyed the finest lifestyles in their retirement. The tradition continues with both the Gulfport and Washington campuses of the Armed Forces Retirement Home, model retirement centers with facilities and services designed with our residents in mind.Wait, there's more: Washington Campus:Two campuses located in Gulfport, Mississippi and Washington, D.C. provide outstanding services and amenities that rival those found throughout the United States. For those who meet the eligibility requirements, there are no costly initiation or registration fees, and the monthly user fees are affordable.
When prospective residents enter the Washington campus for the first time, they’re stunned by its majestic views, rolling hills, tranquil lakes and historic landmarks. Nestled on 272 acres in the heart of our nation’s capital, just minutes from the White House, U.S. Capitol and other national landmarks, the Home once housed four U.S. Presidents, including Abraham Lincoln.
But what about the cramped quarters from having to sell off 49 acres?
Considered a city within a city, the campus features everything our residents need for daily living: 400 plus private rooms for independent living equipped for cable television and telephones, banks, chapels, convenience store, post office, laundry, barber shop and beauty salon, dining room, and 24- hour security and staff presence. Beyond necessities, we take pride in offering outstanding social, recreational and occupational activities for every interest, including:
- a nine hole golf course and driving range; walking trails; garden plots
- two fishing ponds with crappie, bass, bream and catfish a professionally equipped fitness center and physical fitness programs
- a computer center; two extensive print, audio and video libraries
- individual work areas for ceramics, woodworking, painting and other hobbies
- a six lane bowling alley and leagues; card, game and recreation rooms; auto shop
- a fully equipped, 600 seat theater for movies, bingo, events and live entertainment
- bus tours to area attractions; numerous special events, trips and activities
But wait, there's also a major multi-million-dollar renovation. And a wonderful stragecic plan AFRH Strategic Plan:
The modernization at AFRH-Washington (AFRH-W) is ongoing through a design / build of the Scott Dormitory. Coined the “Scott Project”, this plan is approved and funded by $5.6 million in FY09 and $70 million in FY10 from the AFRH Trust Fund.Today, AFRH-W is evolving into an even better retirement community that fulfills the Government’s original Promise to “take care of its own.”
As of this writing, AFRH-W is in a “transition” as the design / build of the new Commons and Healthcare building has already begun. Temporary offices and common activity spaces are disbursed among the Sherman, Sheridan, and LaGarde buildings as the Scott Project advances. Construction completion is slated for 2013.
OK, enough about this decrepit sewer of a place we are forcing our retired soldiers to live in.
Ask this question -- why was the sale of land by this group subject to a congressional vote?
The AFRH is an independent establishment of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government and is financially independent. A permanent Trust Fund was established almost two centuries ago to sustain the AFRH. This Fund continues to be fed by active duty enlisted and Warrant Officer monthly payroll deductions, as well as fines and forfeitures from all branches of the military. It is also fed by monthly AFRH Resident fees, the sale or lease of underutilized land and buildings, gifts and bequeaths and interest gained on the Trust Fund balance.
So, they are associated with the government. As they say elsewhere: "AFRH is a unique Federal Agency that closely resembles a private sector CCRC."
This isn't a private organization that can do whatever it wants -- it's a government entity, controlled by and subject to the will of the taxpayers expressed through the elected representatives of those taxpayers. SO while one might find fault with a private home being forced to sell property to specific bidders, that is standard practice for a government entity to consider things other than just money, like deciding what the property will be used for when purchased. Wouldn't do after all to have a strip mall built next to a lovely retirement home.
But, they are funded from a sustainable trust fund, so they don't need direct appropriations. But apparently they need the government's approval to dispose of the property.
Was this a terrible hardship, getting rid of this 49 acres? Not according to their strategic plan document:
After faltering in the 1990s and starting fresh in 2002, AFRH planned for and propelled forward on an upward trajectory. The consuming passion was to build on the Home's historic past and plan for a modern future. Fulfilling the needs of our Residents is at the heart of it all. And management was focused on fulfilling our Vision: “To actively nurture the Health and Wellness Philosophy of Aging....” So, we continually reshaped operations.By 2004, we had reduced the footprint at the sprawling Washington campus and outsourced transportation, dining services, and maintenance at both campuses. As a result both AFRH communities flourished. The Agency was once again fiscally solvent and the Trust Fund balance began to rise again.
But it was Santorum and Kennedy who caused this. No, wait, they just said the place should be sold to the landowners next door. Because the government controlled the land, and could decide who could get it, apparently.
But there was questions raised about whether they would get the best price for the land. So Santorum and Kennedy amended the law to ensure that the land was sold for the fair market value. However, someone still is terribly upset that the Catholics got the land, even though they paid full price for it.
The article clearly shows an anti-Catholic bias, starting with the word "coveted", a word denoting a sinful desire. Which was clearly the intent, as the story woven by the article sounds much like the evil man who covets something of his neighbors, and sets out to obtain that desire through nefarious means.
Of course, I guess if you believe the Catholic church is the bad guy, that might be how you would mis-interpret the story.
Other interesting things -- one of their problems is not being able to talk enough potential residents into moving into the community, obviously important since they are paying residence, which would provide more money for upkeep and expansion:
Many veterans, retirees, and current war-theater combatants don’t know about the AFRH and the great benefits of living here. A recent marketing study revealed approximately 3 Million potential Residents now live here in the US. Our challenge is educate them on the many benefits of retiring at AFRH.More later.
“Mr. Newt can think on his feet like no one else”
That is part of his problem. He spouts off stuff that borders on the ludicrous. Like his amnesty proposals (for grandmothers); $2.50 gas in two years as he told Chris Wallace on FoxNews Sunday as if world energy markets and regional geo-political conditions will have no impact on the price of oil, and then this piece of insanity of establishing permanent lunar based colonies within eight years at a time of exploding trillion dollar budget deficits and a national debt topping $16T. No wonder Gingrich has been described as a “Hindenberg sure to explode” that will give Obama and the media a field day.
But most important is that Gingrich at this point in the race is unfortunately opening up a ever widening gender gap with un-favorabilty ratings that are falling through the cellar. Santorum as the polls confirm will connect with blue-collar votes, win back the Reagan Democrats and will turn in some Rust-Belt states into the Republican column. Unlike Gingrich, Santorum doesn’t project himself as a tired-looking and limp warrior. We saw Gingrich have that deer caught in the headlights look in the pre-Florida debates. Romney went after Gingrich like a Bengal tiger and oh my! Didn’t Gingrich get mauled. The result, Gingrich got decimated in the FL primary losing every major demographic to Romney.
/ sarc ;-)
BUMP!!
Charles, this looks really interesting, but I am going to save it till tomorrow and read it, I hope that’s okay. I didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you. I am off duty in 13 minutes... YAY!!
p.s. thanks for taking the time to respond to my question. Sleep well and God Bless.
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