Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Massacre makes Obama 'more determined' to exit Afghanistan
Reuters ^ | Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:42pm EDT | Caren Bohan and Ahmad Nadem

Posted on 03/12/2012 7:05:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai

President Barack Obama said on Monday the massacre of 16 villagers by a U.S. soldier raises his determination to get American troops out of Afghanistan, while a U.S. official said the accused staff sergeant previously had suffered traumatic brain injury.

Sunday's shootings triggered angry calls from Afghans for an immediate American exit. Obama said there should not be a "rush to the exits" for U.S. forces who have been fighting in Afghanistan since 2001 and that the drawdown must be carried out in a responsible way.

The accused U.S. Army staff sergeant walked off his base in the southern province of Kandahar in the middle of night and gunned down at least 16 villagers, mostly women and children.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said the death penalty could be sought in the U.S. military justice system against the soldier, whose name has not been publicly disclosed.

Referring to Sunday's massacre, Obama said in an interview with KDKA, a CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh: "It makes me more determined to make sure we're getting our troops home."

"It's time. It's been a decade, and, frankly, now that we've gotten (Osama) bin Laden, now that we've weakened al Qaeda, we're in a stronger position to transition than we would have been two or three years ago," Obama added, referring to the al Qaeda leader killed by U.S. forces last year in Pakistan. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; cutandrun; jihad; massacre; taliban; warofchoice; warofnecessity
Um, war of necessity, war of choice, walk away quickly from all of 'em?
1 posted on 03/12/2012 7:06:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

..Which begs the question, “How does a U.S. Soldier just ‘walk off a base’? Isn’t there ingress/egress control, not just ingress control? WTF? Remember the soldier who also just walked off a base and got kidnapped? Someone ‘splain please..


2 posted on 03/12/2012 7:08:42 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

An accident or semi-accident occurs (maybe the sarge responsible for the controversial killings had gone mad and nobody noticed) and whoops, this is a reason to back out of an effort that is at least slowing down terrorist nests?


3 posted on 03/12/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

Maybe nobody is expected to abandon the base?


4 posted on 03/12/2012 7:10:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

He helped set up the condtions where soldiers weren’t able to protect themselves and felt like they were getting screwed over, so they were less likely to respect the command structure.

This is exactly what Obama wanted.


5 posted on 03/12/2012 7:12:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
Sunday's shootings triggered angry calls from Afghans for an immediate American exit.

Why don't we know the name of the shooter? The above statement reads a lot like

Sunday's shootings triggered angry calls from gun control advocates demanding immediate legislative action.

6 posted on 03/12/2012 7:13:22 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

I wouldn’t necessarily fault the military on this point. Somebody will always figure out how to by-pass any procedure at some point.


7 posted on 03/12/2012 7:15:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

My professional opinion is that the Quran burning and this shooting were setup to help the Food Stamp President get the troops out. He is getting loads of grief from the far leftists and needs the money to buy more votes. Don’t be surprised if there are more incidents and a sudden change to accelerate the withdrawal.


8 posted on 03/12/2012 7:19:18 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Obama’s plan in Afghanistan is based on election polls, not events on the ground.


9 posted on 03/12/2012 7:21:49 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

I distinctly remember Obama saying in his 2008 campaign that the war in Iraq was a complete mistake, but that we should pursue the war against Afghanistan, Al Qaeda’s haven, vigorously. Bush dumb, Obama smart.

But, that was then, and this is now.


10 posted on 03/12/2012 7:22:33 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Unfit for command. Clearly.


11 posted on 03/12/2012 7:23:23 PM PDT by matt1234 (Bring back the HUAC.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

The Staff Sergeant did FOUR tours and suffered from traumatic brain injury! IF anyone should be court martialed or put on trail it is the doctors that sent this guy back over...knowing his condition!


12 posted on 03/12/2012 7:26:25 PM PDT by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs

I read somewhere (yes, on the Internet!) that he was assigned to a special project affiliated with the locals, and that’s how he was able to leave.


13 posted on 03/12/2012 7:34:18 PM PDT by FoxInSocks (B. Hussein Obama: Central Planning Czar)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Our problems started when the military mission of crushing the Taliban with unconditional surrender quickly gave way to “spreading democracy” for the ungrateful Afghans that are rioting and killing because their Mein Koran was burned, they seem content with Sharia, and it makes no sense to continue a war our leaders won’t acknowledge with Islam and devoid of the will to be victorious.


14 posted on 03/12/2012 7:36:50 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Maybe this would be a good time to talk about how many American military people are committing suicide.


15 posted on 03/12/2012 7:57:18 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (Newt: "The high price of gas is the deliberate strategy of the left.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

No urgency when US troops die. Feckless jackass.


16 posted on 03/12/2012 7:59:55 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FoxInSocks

I said the other day I thought that perhaps he had a friend in the locals killed honor style or some similar, then says Blank-it and went gonzo. Now I REALLY wonder if that’s not the case.

Whatever happened, the only thing I can say with total certainty is that we are being lied to about the whole thing.


17 posted on 03/12/2012 8:11:42 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai
The SecDef needs to shut his fat mouth. That is Command Influence when he, the prez, any higher commander starts running their fat mouths on these subjects. The lowest commander in this man's chain of command is the person to bring court martial charges and start the process. That commander makes a recommendation on level of court. However any commander above him can recommend higher action if that lower commander did not recommend high enough in the next commander in the chain's opinion. This allows them the freedom to make these choices. When higher ups start putting pressure on commanders with big mouths like this, that takes the commander at the lowest level now afraid not to make his higher ups happy. Thus becomes command influence. Many cases have gotten tossed out because of this. In no way to I condone what this man did. Murder is murder. If he committed murder, then if found guilty, pays the price of murder. However, he has to have a fair trial without command influence at any level.

I personally am all for pulling our people out of there. Not one of our people is worth a thousand of theirs in my opinion. We are wasting lives over there and accomplishing nothing. If they want to kill each other, then let them kill each other. We don't need to be dying right along with them.

18 posted on 03/12/2012 8:15:15 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

“They” don’t “want to kill each other”; they want to kill Americans. The liberal politicians are holding the command back, never mind the soldiers. But you said as much . . . problem is, pulling out makes them think they’ve won, just like in the former French Indo-China (and I blame the UN for that one, the old dictators’ club).


19 posted on 03/12/2012 8:59:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

RUN BARRY, RUN! It’s the Ghost of Osama!


20 posted on 03/12/2012 9:04:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer
Luvverly, right? Another “overseas contingency operation” left unfinished.
21 posted on 03/12/2012 9:07:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: HiTech RedNeck

Not anymore.


22 posted on 03/12/2012 9:49:23 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

Afghans havn’t started rioting and killing yet. ......maybe they see the dog is off the leash.


23 posted on 03/12/2012 10:50:15 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Olog-hai

” his determination to get American troops out of Afghanistan”?
Wasn’t Afganistan obammy’s just war?
He wanted us out of the bad war in Iraq that Bush started and us in Afganistan.
Obammy is a fool.
Get us out of the damned moosie world.


24 posted on 03/13/2012 3:33:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Joe Boucher

Getting out of their “world” won’t get them out of our world, so to speak.


25 posted on 03/13/2012 8:33:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson