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The South says Obama is not Christian, but a Muslim
Wash Times ^ | March 12, 2012 | Catherine Poe (uber lib)

Posted on 03/13/2012 10:13:31 AM PDT by upchuck

Just when you were feeling good about being an American, maybe because spring has sprung a little earlier this year, out comes some news that makes you wonder about your country. Sad to say, it appears that Obamaphobia is rampant in the South. If you listen to a majority of Republican voters in two key Southern states, President Obama lies about his religion.

Obama may claim he is Christian, but voters in Mississippi and Alabama say that is just not true. He’s a Muslim. A few others aren’t so sure what he is.

A Public Policy Poll released on March 12 that looks at the voters in the Mississippi and Alabama races and their choices in the primary also asked them about their values. No matter what you think of their choices for Tuesday’s primary, their values and lack of knowledge are truly appalling.

For starters, they have a high opinion of Rush Limbaugh and by a two-thirds majority they do not believe in evolution. Is there any hope for a country when its electorate is so ill informed? How are they going to be making informed choices in the primary? What the heck are they reading or even listening to?

No matter what your own political persuasion, such downright ignorance is frightening. But it gets worse when they basically insist that President Obama is a Muslim no matter what he says.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamachristian; obamamuslim
... their values and lack of knowledge are truly appalling ... such downright ignorance is frightening.

Be afraid Catherine, be VERY afraid.

Poll numbers we'll all agree with at the link.

1 posted on 03/13/2012 10:13:33 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

Christian is as Christian does.


2 posted on 03/13/2012 10:15:14 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: upchuck
He’s a Muslim. A few others aren’t so sure what he is.

Neither is he.

3 posted on 03/13/2012 10:16:03 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: upchuck

If your cat crawled into your oven and gave birth, you wouldn’t call ‘em “biscuits”, now would you?

If you called a “tail” a “leg”, how many legs would a cow have? FOUR, because calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it one.

Just because Obama says he is a Christian doesn’t make him one. He doesn’t walk the walk. Shoot, he doesn’t even talk the talk!


4 posted on 03/13/2012 10:18:29 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: upchuck
Obama may claim he is Christian, but voters in Mississippi and Alabama say that is just not true. He’s a Muslim. A few others aren’t so sure what he is.

The Won himself inadvertently proved he's not Christian.

When asked who Jesus Christ was, his answer was "a great teacher".

A Christian would have said something to the effect of "The Son of God, sent to Earth to atone for the sins of mankind".

Øbama is either a closet Muslim or a Muslim-sympathizing atheist.

5 posted on 03/13/2012 10:24:52 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: upchuck

No matter what your own political persuasion, such downright ignorance is frightening.

What is really frightening is that someone could write this trash and possible believe it. What is ignorant is not believing in God and His creating this wonderful world. Then thrown in that whoever wrote this trash actually believes anything Mr. obama says.


6 posted on 03/13/2012 10:25:37 AM PDT by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama and Sen. Rubio are NOT Natural Born Citizens.)
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To: upchuck

Why is the Washington Times publishing this drivel?


7 posted on 03/13/2012 10:29:14 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: upchuck

He is Not a muslim. Muslim religion frowns on homosexuality.


8 posted on 03/13/2012 10:30:19 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: stylecouncilor

Whatever it is it’s not an American.

(New computer 1st post.)


9 posted on 03/13/2012 10:31:08 AM PDT by onedoug (Umba)
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To: upchuck

What good does it do to even point out if someone is or is not a Christian politician.

Secular and religious society can’t even agree on what the term Christian means.


10 posted on 03/13/2012 10:32:10 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: martin_fierro
Obama is a Marxist, and by definition, that makes him an atheist. However, he was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia, and that's why he's so sympathetic to the Arab world. He probably dropped Islam as his religion when he started hanging out with Bill Ayres and Jeremiah Wright in Chicago and embraced Marxism and Saul Alinsky.


11 posted on 03/13/2012 10:35:06 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: upchuck

Just confirms to me that I have more in common with folks in the south.


12 posted on 03/13/2012 10:35:19 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: upchuck
Line up information obtained that enforces one to believe Obama is a Christian.
Line up the reasons that enforce the idea that Obama is not a Christian and is a Muslim.

It doesn't look analytically positive for Obama being a Christian or supporter when one looks at his actions logically.

13 posted on 03/13/2012 10:39:19 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: upchuck
"by a two-thirds majority they do not believe in evolution. Is there any hope for a country when its electorate is so ill informed?"

So where is the evidence that man evolved from ape? The "missing link" - the transitional species that validates evolutionist DOGMA?

Logical minds want to know...

14 posted on 03/13/2012 10:40:01 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: longfellow

“He is Not a muslim. Muslim religion frowns on homosexuality.”

But they shag goats.


15 posted on 03/13/2012 10:40:15 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: vetvetdoug

Just today, Neal Boortz played a tape of 0bama with George Stephanopolis from 2008.....

Steph: “Mr. Obama, has McCain ever said anything about your faith?”
0bama: McCain has never said anything about my Muslim faith.”
Steph: “You mean Christian faith.”
0bama: “Uh, my Christian faith.”

You don’t just make those mistakes...
A Christian would never say, “my Muslim faith...”
A Muslim would never say, “My Jewish faith...”
A Jew would never say, “My Christian faith...”


16 posted on 03/13/2012 10:42:42 AM PDT by Boonie
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To: upchuck
The South says Obama is not Christian, but a Muslim

Actually I really don't think pResident Obama is a muslim, but an islamic sympathizing atheist. His god is marxism (or himself ... at the head of a marxist regime), and he despises Christianity. He has no problem for using it as a prop, but he despises it (particularly those that bitterly cling to their Bibles). And thus he tends to gravitate towards enemies of Christianity, such as islam.

17 posted on 03/13/2012 10:42:55 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

You nailed it. As a Marxist, he recognizes religion is a necessary if unsavory tool in the march to utopia.


18 posted on 03/13/2012 10:49:38 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: upchuck

I don’t think Obama believes in any god but himself, and most certainly he has trouble tolerating God, but his sympathies lie with Islam. The liberal socialists, Democrats, need a common enemy to unite their militant groups, and that enemy is Christianity, not Islam. Christianity poses political and philosophical threats to them, like any cultural demographic that empowers individuals. Islam provides them with yet another group of militants.


19 posted on 03/13/2012 10:56:36 AM PDT by pallis
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To: upchuck

The fact that there are those that imagine he is a Christian, is almost as scary as him being a Muslim.

When and where did Obama accept our Savior as his Lord? Was it in _Rev_ Wright’s service; a white hating savior? Or did he accept a savior like so many others, one in which all gods lead to heaven and all religions are equal. There are a people, who belong to YHWH and non other. Yes, our creator allows and expects everyone to make up their own mind... What did he chose?

Apparently, most USAians will believe just about anything, as long as ABC,CBS,NBC,NYT,LAT or other MSM says it.

Most in the world call His people, delusional. I say this world has been, but is becoming fully, deluded, in all subjects and in all matters. Look around and watch...


20 posted on 03/13/2012 10:57:23 AM PDT by veracious
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To: upchuck
cathy Bless your little heart, your statement..."No matter what your own political persuasion, such downright ignorance is frightening"...

Ignorance is a weapon! Your ignorance calling a group of people IS frightening.

I Thank GOD that I was born and raised southern.

21 posted on 03/13/2012 10:58:00 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (1 John 2:22...the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist...)
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To: upchuck

Why should Obama think that he should be believed? Almost everything we know about him comes from his 2 “autobiographical” works. There’s almost no independent verification of anything. His school records are sealed. And he has very little credibility left.

I’m surprised people don’t think he’s from Mars!


22 posted on 03/13/2012 11:01:29 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: DuncanWaring

If I am not mistaken, “a great teacher” IS the Muslim view of Jesus.


23 posted on 03/13/2012 11:12:32 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: longfellow

>Muslim religion frowns on homosexuality.<

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So does Christianity.

But we, as a politically correct nation, have long forgotten that fact.


24 posted on 03/13/2012 11:18:46 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: longfellow
Muslim religion frowns on homosexuality.

Unless they're buggering little boys.

25 posted on 03/13/2012 11:20:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: wallcrawlr

>Secular and religious society can’t even agree on what the term Christian means.<

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Not true. A Christian should be able to say the Nicene Creed with conviction — it is the oldest recorded act of faith of Christianity.

That modern-day Christians have their doubts about the Creed is not the fault of the original author. For 1200 years, this document was the only acceptable guideline in the Christian world.


26 posted on 03/13/2012 11:27:37 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: RatRipper

That’s also what I’ve heard.


27 posted on 03/13/2012 11:36:39 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: upchuck

Marxists are NOT christians OR muslims.. or LDS or catholic or Scientologists..

Marxists are atheists.. BUT they can act like any of the above..
Santo, Willard and the Obamaoid are controlled by the UNIONS..
The Unions couldn’t control them IF THEY BELIEVED ANYTHING..

No Newt..... NO win...


28 posted on 03/13/2012 11:39:20 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: upchuck

Obama looks likes a Muslim, speaks like a Muslim and and acts like a Muslim. What could he be?


29 posted on 03/13/2012 11:41:27 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: upchuck

Who is this “South” person? Is there a quote? Does “The” have any brothers or sisters that can be reached?


30 posted on 03/13/2012 11:44:10 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Cyber Liberty

i’m South that’s me...and he’s a Muzzie, all right


31 posted on 03/13/2012 11:51:25 AM PDT by AnTiw1 ("Where Liberty is, there is my country.")
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To: upchuck

How did this chippie end up writing for the Washington Times?


32 posted on 03/13/2012 12:00:53 PM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: AnTiw1

America’s Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President

When one observes President Obama’s unwillingness to accommodate America’s four-century long religious conscience protection through his attempts to require Catholics to go against their own doctrines and beliefs, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Catholic. But that characterization would not be correct. Although he has recently singled out Catholics, he has equally targeted traditional Protestant beliefs over the past four years. So since he has attacked Catholics and Protestants, one is tempted to say that he is anti-Christian. But that, too, would be inaccurate. He has been equally disrespectful in his appalling treatment of religious Jews in general and Israel in particular. So perhaps the most accurate description of his antipathy toward Catholics, Protestants, religious Jews, and the Jewish nation would be to characterize him as anti-Biblical. And then when his hostility toward Biblical people of faith is contrasted with his preferential treatment of Muslims and Muslim nations, it further strengthens the accuracy of the anti-Biblical descriptor. In fact, there have been numerous clearly documented times when his pro-Islam positions have been the cause of his anti-Biblical actions.
Listed below in chronological order are (1) numerous records of his attacks on Biblical persons or organizations; (2) examples of the hostility toward Biblical faith that have become evident in the past three years in the Obama-led military; (3) a listing of his open attacks on Biblical values; and finally (4) a listing of numerous incidents of his preferential deference for Islam’s activities and positions, including letting his Islamic advisors guide and influence his hostility toward people of Biblical faith.
1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:

April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren’t like them”

February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011.

April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech.

May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House.

April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three.

October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions.

November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law.

January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court.

February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress.

April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring.

August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception.

November 2011 – Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt’s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial.

November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving message.

December 2011 – The Obama administration denigrates other countries’ religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights.

January 2012 – The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis.

February 2012 – The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion.

2. Acts of hostility from the Obama-led military toward people of Biblical faith:

June 2011 – The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery.

August 2011 – The Air Force stops teaching the Just War theory to officers in California because the course is taught by chaplains and is based on a philosophy introduced by St. Augustine in the third century AD – a theory long taught by civilized nations across the world (except America).

September 2011 – Air Force Chief of Staff prohibits commanders from notifying airmen of programs and services available to them from chaplains.

September 2011 – The Army issues guidelines for Walter Reed Medical Center stipulating that “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading materials and/or facts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.”

November 2011 – The Air Force Academy rescinds support for Operation Christmas Child, a program to send holiday gifts to impoverished children across the world, because the program is run by a Christian charity.

November 2011 – The Air Force Academy pays $80,000 to add a Stonehenge-like worship center for pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans.

February 2012 – The U. S. Military Academy at West Point disinvites three star Army general and decorated war hero Lieutenant General William G. (“Jerry”) Boykin (retired) from speaking at an event because he is an outspoken Christian.

February 2012 – The Air Force removes “God” from the patch of Rapid Capabilities Office (the word on the patch was in Latin: Dei).

February 2012 – The Army orders Catholic chaplains not to read a letter to parishioners that their archbishop asked them to read.

3. Acts of hostility toward Biblical values:

January 2009 – Obama lifts restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, forcing taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations.

January 2009 – President Obama’s nominee for deputy secretary of state asserts that American taxpayers are required to pay for abortions and that limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional.

March 2009 – The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit.

March 2009 – Obama orders taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research.

March 2009 – Obama gave $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that promotes abortion and works closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations.

May 2009 – The White House budget eliminates all funding for abstinence-only education and replaces it with “comprehensive” sexual education, repeatedly proven to increase teen pregnancies and abortions.

He continues the deletion in subsequent budgets.

May 2009 – Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their “criminal” activities.

July 2009 – The Obama administration illegally extends federal benefits to same-sex partners of Foreign Service and Executive Branch employees, in direction violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

September 16, 2009 – The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should “not tolerate” any “private beliefs,” including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual “equality.”

July 2010 – The Obama administration uses federal funds in violation of federal law to get Kenya to change its constitution to include abortion.

August 2010 – The Obama administration Cuts funding for 176 abstinence education programs.

September 2010 – The Obama administration tells researchers to ignore a judge’s decision striking down federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

February 2011 – Obama directs the Justice Department to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

March 2011 – The Obama administration refuses to investigate videos showing Planned Parenthood helping alleged sex traffickers get abortions for victimized underage girls.

July 2011 – Obama allows homosexuals to serve openly in the military, reversing a policy originally instituted by George Washington in March 1778.

September 2011 – The Pentagon directs that military chaplains may perform same-sex marriages at military facilities in violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

October 2011 – The Obama administration eliminates federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for their extensive programs that aid victims of human trafficking because the Catholic Church is anti-abortion.

4. Acts of preferentialism for Islam:

May 2009 – While Obama does not host any National Day of Prayer event at the White House, he does host White House Iftar dinners in honor of Ramadan.

April 2010 – Christian leader Franklin Graham is disinvited from the Pentagon’s National Day of Prayer Event because of complaints from the Muslim community.

April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc.

August 2010 – Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity.

August 2010 – Obama went to great lengths to speak out on multiple occasions on behalf of building an Islamic mosque at Ground Zero, while at the same time he was silent about a Christian church being denied permission to rebuild at that location.

2010 – While every White House traditionally issues hundreds of official proclamations and statements on numerous occasions, this White House avoids traditional Biblical holidays and events but regularly recognizes major Muslim holidays, as evidenced by its 2010 statements on Ramadan, Eid-ul-Fitr, Hajj, and Eid-ul-Adha.

October 2011 – Obama’s Muslim advisers block Middle Eastern Christians’ access to the White House.

February 2012 – The Obama administration makes effulgent apologies for Korans being burned by the U. S. military, but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do.
Many of these actions are literally unprecedented – this is the first time they have happened in four centuries of American history. The hostility of President Obama toward Biblical faith and values is without equal from any previous American president.


33 posted on 03/13/2012 12:41:19 PM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: hosepipe

0bama, like all Marxists, is not just passively atheist,
but actively anti-Christian.

He “sides with” Muslims because he and they are on the same side in the whole “Christ vs Satan” battle.


34 posted on 03/13/2012 12:43:21 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Gee lets think this out, radical muslim socialist homosexual agenda, places the Vatican on a money laundering suspect list, can’t even produce a valid birth cert or anything not doctored, fake degrees, fake history. I don’t think this might be Billy Graham’s lost son but then again no one seems to know his true identity.


35 posted on 03/13/2012 1:02:57 PM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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To: libertyhoundusnr

Just sayin'...

36 posted on 03/13/2012 1:20:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Jemian

LoL!


37 posted on 03/13/2012 3:06:11 PM PDT by WMarshal (Where is the next Sam Adams?)
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To: upchuck
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38 posted on 03/13/2012 3:49:39 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Bookmark


39 posted on 03/13/2012 9:57:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (“It’s easy to make phony promises you can’t keep.” - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
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To: DonkeyBonker

Male goats????? they are sick.


40 posted on 03/14/2012 8:42:20 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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