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Gingrich Denies Splitting GOP Votes
Obama's SuperPac ABC News ^ | March 13th, 2012 | Newt Video

Posted on 03/13/2012 9:03:29 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

Newt Gingrich says, "Between us, Santorum and I are stopping Romney."

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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I think Newt’s getting bad advice from his math analyst advisors who want to keep their paychecks coming a little while longer. Or he’s got the same crack team on this that helped him get on the Virginia ballot.

Newt dropping out helps Rick in the 2/3rds of remaining winner-take-all (state/district) delegates, and can’t hurt much in the 1/3rd remaining of proportional delegates. The difference Rick could gain would probably be enough to stop Romney in both the primary and in a floor fight.


101 posted on 03/14/2012 12:36:58 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: larryleo

What job do you think Newt would offer Santorum at the convention to have him support him? I think VP would only work. Your thoughts?


102 posted on 03/14/2012 12:59:23 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Question: Would Santorum be much closer to Milt’s total delegates if Newt had accepted that he has no traction outside the south, and withdrew? Answer: Yes.
Newt stating that he is hurting Milt is a lie. Everything is about Newt. I used to like the guy, sort of, but he is showing himself to be just another pol with little concern about America facing a choice between a socialist and a Communist. Bob


103 posted on 03/14/2012 2:14:27 PM PDT by alstewartfan ( 27 of 36 Romney judicial appointments were DEMOCRATS!!!!!)
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To: Lazlo in PA; Utmost Certainty; Halfmanhalfamazing; Kansas58; SatinDoll

I would like to, respectfully, point out, to each of you, that the President of the United States has no control over the federal budget. He can pressure party members into voting one way or the other, and he can direct department heads once money is allocated, but the actual allocation of funds is controlled by the Congress.

Arguing over who did or did not have a better fiscal record while in Congress, in order to choose a candidate, is an ultimate waste of time. Let’s chose something that matters like: can candidate A influence Congress effectively? Can Candidate B correctly judge the need for deployment of troops to a regional hot spot? Does Candidate C have the stones to veto a grossly unconstitutional nightmare of a bill?


104 posted on 03/14/2012 2:37:13 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: brothers4thID

It is absolutely not a waste of time because a person’s record reveals their governing philosophy. Santorum’s is one of a fiscally irresponsible big government statist.


105 posted on 03/14/2012 2:48:34 PM PDT by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Gee, if only Ross Perot had run for president we would have never gotten Clinton...same insane paralogism.
106 posted on 03/14/2012 2:56:10 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Newt could claim he saved America if he were to step aside and endorse Rick Santorum now.")
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To: brothers4thID

How about, “Does a candidate have a record of honesty and truthfulness?”

Becasue a poltician who has a record as a chronic liar and less than honest in public dealing before the election, is unlikely to have a profound conversion to honesty and veracity upon election to office.


107 posted on 03/14/2012 3:12:02 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: lightman

Gingrich is hoping that his hanging on like a leech will entitle him to the VP slot under Mittens.

Didn’t he already promise it to Ron Paul’s kid?


108 posted on 03/14/2012 4:55:28 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: napscoordinator

It’s really a tough call. What worries me to have Santorum on ticket is the media will scare the public by making him seem too extreme. He could certainly hold his own in a debate with Biden. But does Newt add to the ticket by picking another conservative? I’m think putting Paul Ryan on ticket is a good move. The whole thing started when Newt “undermined” Ryan’s budget and it would be ironic and another example of the media mischaracterizing the whole thing if Newt joined forces with Ryan. Ryan helps in the North and would be a great guy to pass the torch too after Newt’s 8 years. So Santorum ends up in the cabinet. I just don’t know where. Of course if Romney gets 1,144, all this doesn’t matter. Then it could be the other way. Santorum asks Newt to be on team, but making Newt VP would be wasting his talent. Just make him a top advisor.


109 posted on 03/14/2012 5:42:39 PM PDT by larryleo (We all need to get Newtered!)
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To: larryleo
Santorum asks Newt to be on team, but making Newt VP would be wasting his talent.

I agree. We would have 2008 all over again which did us no favors. Oh the democrats will have that problem too with Biden not running for President ever. I think if Newt is the nominee, have Santorum be Secretary of State and if Santorum is the nominee than have Newt be Secretary of State. I think they both would be perfect for the job. Santorum because he is very engaging and likable and would impress the foreign dignitaries (obviously without bowing all over the place) and Newt would just impress them with his knowledge and foreign policy.

110 posted on 03/14/2012 5:48:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: SatinDoll

>> I will make this absolutely clear to you: Romney and Santorum are both fiscally liberal, big government spenders.

Santorum IS a big government, establishment bit player! That’s why he is pulling stronger with women.

There really aren’t that many Conservatives. Many are in fact just patriotic Statists and pseudo Socialists.


111 posted on 03/14/2012 5:55:43 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: brothers4thID

>> the President of the United States has no control over the federal budget.

Can Congressional budgets pass without Senate nor Executive approval?


112 posted on 03/14/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: Gene Eric

I do not trust Rick Santorum. I do not trust people who tell me how moral and religious they are. My choices were Gingrich or Romney. I went Gingrich and I know I am not alone in this. If Newt was not in the race, this would be over and Romney would already be passing out buttons.


113 posted on 03/14/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Utmost Certainty

That would be a valid point if, and only if, you were taking apart every single bill they voted on and diving into the political realities of each. We’re FReepers, we know better than to fall for the old “he voted against spending for our troops!” (or similar taglines) without investigating why and finding out that the same bill had a PP rider attached.


114 posted on 03/14/2012 7:49:28 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: Gene Eric

Congressional budgets pass with Senate approval, thus the name “Congressional”. The Budget is then used as a framework for the specific appropriations bills which the President must sign into law. Of course he could veto these bills - and have that veto be the easiest veto over-ride vote in the history of the US Congress. The President even submits a “budget” to Congress. Want to guess how much of that budget ever makes it into a Congressional Budget Act?


115 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:09 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: SatinDoll

Honesty and Truthfulness are wonderful qualities in any man. Before we start casting stones, however, we’d best examine our own records. We’d also be wise to have exact wording and context of so called “lies”.


116 posted on 03/14/2012 7:55:20 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: brothers4thID

Lie (noun) a statement that is not true; lie (verb) to say something that is not true.

Anything to quibble with above?


117 posted on 03/14/2012 8:03:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll
"Lie (noun) a statement that is not true; lie (verb) to say something that is not true."

You mean like, “As long as I am Speaker of this House, no gun control legislation is going to move in committee or on the floor of this House and there will be no further erosion of their rights.”?

118 posted on 03/14/2012 8:08:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Senator Santorum Flat Out Lies About Steel Industry Bailout:

Senator Santorum on Meet The Press 2/26/12 claims he never voted for a bailout of the steel industry. Rather he asserts that what he voted for was to enforce tariffs on China.

H.R. 1664: here is the summary of the bill from senate.gov:

An Act providing emergency authority for guarantees of loans to qualified steel and iron ore companies and to qualified oil and gas companies, and for other purposes.

Verbiage directly within the bill itself:

SEC. 101. EMERGENCY STEEL LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM. (a) SHORT TITLE.—This chapter may be cited as the ‘‘Emergency Steel Loan Guarantee Act of 1999’’.

(f ) LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM.—
(1) AUTHORITY.—The Program may guarantee loans provided to qualified steel companies by private banking and
investment institutions in accordance with the procedures,
rules, and regulations established by the Board.
(2) TOTAL GUARANTEE LIMIT.—The aggregate amount of loans guaranteed and outstanding at any one time under this section may not exceed $1,000,000,000.

It really doesn’t get anymore cut-and-dried than that. The word “tariff” does not even appear in the bill - not once.

You want more?


119 posted on 03/14/2012 8:17:16 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll
So you expect Santorum, on a February 2012 TV interview to remember the exact verbiage of a bill he voted on in 1999? And if he misspeaks, you call it a lie?

How about this one of Newt's:

"I do."

He's actually told that one at least twice, not to voters, constituents or media, but to persons much closer to him...

120 posted on 03/14/2012 8:27:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Newt Gingrich Marriage Timeline

1962: Newt married Jackie Battley on June 19, 1962. (Battley was his biology teacher in high school when she sexually molested Newt. Nowadays, women who do that go to prison, like Mary Kay Latourneau did, in Washington State. Battley became pregnant and Newt felt obligated to marry her.)
1963: Newt’s daughter Kathy was born.
1966: Newt’s daughter Jackie Sue was born.
1980: Newt met Marianne Ginther in January 1980.
1980: Jackie and Newt separated in April 1980.
1981: Jackie Battley and Newt Gingrich’s divorce finalized February 1981. (Battley asked for the divorce, not Newt. She was later in the hospital for removal of a benign tumor when he and their daughters visited in the hospital. She is still alive, well, and doesn’t want to be bothered by journalists.)
1981: Six months later Newt married Marianne Ginther on August 8, 1981.
1987: Marianne and Newt separated in June 1987. (Marianne is bipolar and has substance abuse problems, mainly involving alcohol. Newt had attended AA meeting with her and endured over 18 years of contentious marriage as they frequently seperated.)
1993: Newt and Callista Bisek began their affair in November 1993.
1993: Marianne and Newt reconciled in late 1993/early 1994.
1999: Newt and Marianne separated May 1999; filed for divorce in July.
1999: Marianne and Newt reached a settlement in their divorce case.
2000: Marianne and Newt’s divorce was finalized in April 2000.
2000: Callista Bisek and Newt announced their engagement.
2000: Newt married Callista Bisek on August 18, 2000.

The MSM has repeatedly smeared Gingrich, labeling him a womanizer, in order to deflect attention away from Bill Clinton’s impeachment which was based on committing perjury before a Federal Judge.


121 posted on 03/14/2012 8:39:17 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: lightman
I disagree. I believe Gingrich is hanging on for two reasons.... 1) He honestly believes he can win enough delegates at a brokered convention to win the nomination or 2) He will be Sarah Palin's VP nominee.

Just sayin.

122 posted on 03/14/2012 8:42:57 PM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: SatinDoll

So Newt never cheated on any of his wives?


123 posted on 03/14/2012 8:44:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Hmmmm....

Newt cheating < economy collapsing

What do you think is more important?


124 posted on 03/14/2012 8:47:39 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Joe 6-pack

So Santorum never stole money from a Pennsylvania school district?


125 posted on 03/14/2012 8:48:40 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
So if Newt promises you, a complete stranger and prospective voter, that he's going to implement his plan to fix the economy, you'll buy it hook line and sinker, when he's got a demonstrated track record of not exactly standing by his promises to those closest to him.

Gotcha.

126 posted on 03/14/2012 8:52:10 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SatinDoll
"So Santorum never stole money from a Pennsylvania school district?"

Um, no. That's an old smear that was dug up to tar him during the 2006 campaign. It's been discredited, but if it makes you feel better to keep repeating democrat lies, knock yourself out.

127 posted on 03/14/2012 8:54:04 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Rick was faithful to his wife. How’d he do at cutting government?

Gotcha :)


128 posted on 03/14/2012 8:55:58 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
I hope Newt stays in long enough that I can vote for him here in Wisconsin.

#1 Newt is drawing votes of people that would stay home rather than vote for Mitt or Rick. His participation has increased the turn out as many genuinely want him as president.

#2 If Newt drops out, Rick would be the lone target of the elites, and if he keeps putting his foot into his mouth big time , he'll be destroyed by the MSM and Mitt will be the only one standing. We need Newt as a backup.

#3 All the votes Newt can garner will go to Rick at the convention on the second vote.

129 posted on 03/14/2012 8:58:32 PM PDT by duckln
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Not too bad, actually, if you go by the criteria of the National Taxpayers Union:

Rick Santorum: Fiscal Conservative?

130 posted on 03/14/2012 9:00:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: brothers4thID

That is my basic impression of the process.


132 posted on 03/14/2012 10:45:54 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: bmwcyle
"It is not bull. Romney does not have the Conservative vote. Rick and Newt have it."

Very true. Santorum should drop-out and Newt would surge.

133 posted on 03/15/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

I still believe in a free nation even though I wish someone should drop out. America is about freedom and not forcing people on what they should do.


134 posted on 03/15/2012 8:06:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth

I believe Gingrich is hanging on for two reasons.... 1) He honestly believes he can win enough delegates at a brokered convention to win the nomination or 2) He will be Sarah Palin’s VP nominee.
Just sayin.


I’d love for either of those two scenarios to happen and it can.


135 posted on 03/15/2012 9:36:18 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Gingrich last public statement after coming in second in Mississippi and Alabama was sounding more in the vein of reassessing after Louisiana next Saturday. Sounded like he was beginning to subtly back away from this “all the way to Tampa” business and if Santorum wins LA., the guy has not much anywhere to go.The majority of Southern states will have voted and the rest of the country seems to be wed to Santorum as the conservative choice. Also, his main money squeeze in Las Vegas is quite wealthy and as such may be quite familiar with the not throwing good money after bad rule.


136 posted on 03/15/2012 3:30:19 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
"Too many facts for mindnumbed cultists to comprehend.Sarah is already the POTUS - sun tzu said so."

Amen, and AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!


137 posted on 03/15/2012 10:34:00 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: conservative98
IMHO, Newt wants to take Mit behind the woodshed for the deceitful manner in which Mit crushed him early on.

Revenge is without equal in motivating an ashes in your mouth pay-back, and Newt is a past master in its' execution. God bless 'em.

138 posted on 03/15/2012 10:52:20 PM PDT by Robert Drobot (Fiat voluntas tua)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

I agree with you, Romney is the only liberal


139 posted on 03/16/2012 8:56:20 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

When it’s 37-31-14, Newton is splitting “conservative” votes if there are any conservatives left. Newton knows what he is doing, but he believes himself mentally superior to all others, and perhaps he is. He is destined to be another Perot. I wonder what percent of 1992 Perotistas are now Newt people.


140 posted on 03/16/2012 9:32:26 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Mathematically, it's all over, says Mittens. I'm pretty sure the people will again let us down.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Two-State Newt’s “Southern Strategy” is awaiting to unfold in Chicago!


141 posted on 03/18/2012 10:04:28 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Two-State Newt should sponsor a contest to see who can guess what will be State No. 3.


142 posted on 03/18/2012 7:45:34 PM PDT by Theodore R. (I'm pretty sure the American people will again let us down in this election cycle.)
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