Posted on 03/14/2012 2:18:06 AM PDT by Pinkbell
WASHINGTON— Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has won the Republican presidential caucuses in Hawaii, salvaging a much-needed victory after resurgent rival Rick Santorum won primaries in Alabama and Mississippi on Tuesday.
Romney finished a disappointing third behind Santorum and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich in the Deep South primaries. But he came back to edge out both rivals in Hawaii and added a sweep of delegates from Republican nominating caucuses in American Samoa.
Texas Rep. Ron Paul finished fourth in both Southern primaries, and third in the Hawaii caucuses.
Romney got nine delegates in American Samoa.
About 70 Republicans in the U.S. territory 2,300 miles south of Hawaii met in caucus Tuesday. The six delegates selected at the meeting and three superdelegates to the Republican National Convention all said they would support Romney.
Falemao M. Pili, vice chairman of the local Republican Party and a delegate, said he believes Romney can fix the U.S. economy that extends to American Samoa. He says Romney can "turn this country around."
Last weekend, Romney captured all 18 delegates at caucuses in two other U.S. possessions in the Pacific -- Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.
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Hawaii usually goes Democrat anyway, right? Romney is good at winning liberal states and big cities that are liberal, but all these are areas that will likely end up going for Obama this year. He usually loses the conservative areas, and those are what he will need in the Fall.
Which means that even in leftist Hawaii, Slick Willard still can’t muster a majority.
I ran Hilo’s biggest district tonight. Romney just squeaked past Santorum, Paul a close 3rd and Gingrich pretty far back at 4th. Excellent turnout statewide, much beyond our expectations. Don’t forget there’s a large Mormon population here, and in Samoa as well. I would say folks are chomping at the bit to vote, a good sign, even out here in LiberalLaLaLand.
Hawaii is a communist state.
Did Romney campaign in Hawaii? Would have been funny to hear him say “Aloha, Y’all!” and talk about his love of poi.
Mitt is the closest thing to Obama, and Hawaiians love Obama.
Mitt wins a primary in another leftwing blue state............that he’ll lose in the general election anway. BIG DEAL.
In case you are too busy listening to the #MSM, Romney (40) won more delegate yesterday than Santorum (35) or Gingrich (25).
Anybody want to sign up for a basketweaving class this year?
That is 40 out of 100, not a majority, which makes it a good night. What I don’t understand is how Romney got the same number as delegates as Santorum in Mississippi, a state where Romney finished 3rd. The process is very flawed. Also saw a delegate analysis for all state this morning and Romney has picked up delegates in almost every state, even states such as Pennsylvania that haven’t even voted. They need to have a series of national primaries, winnowing down the field until someone takes a majority of the vote. Have a substantive debates before each vote. Either that or just ditch the primaries and go to a brokered convention of all uncommitted delegates every time. This current system is garbage.
Romney is “Obama Light”. Hawaii is a state full of “takers”. It makes sense he’d win there.
...with grits.
Oh, wait... he doesn't need those Southern hayseeds anymore 'til November.
Sign me up :>(
It also has a large Mormon presence.
If Romney gets the nomination we might as well look for four more years of hell..because Obama will not stop until he has this whole country looking like all of the ghetto places and us rummaging throw trash cans for food..Hey that would be a good ad show people going through the trash to find enough food for their children to eat..and then say this is what we will have if Obama gets reelected.. My advice to every one is store food and water and start now water is most important..Lots of Ammo and get a gun you will need one or more to keep you in meat to eat..
People in HI are precommitt4ed to their “favorite son” Obama and would also like a third term for Obama if the Constitution were changed; oh well, maybe he could run in 2016 anyway in that he is so popular with the uninformed of America. After all, the “uninformed need representation too.” to paraphrase the late Roman Hruska, R-NE.
Hawaii also has a large Mormon population and they are voting for Romney as a bloc.
yep, I’ve noticed that too. Mitt only seems able to win states in the primary that he won’t have a chance in heck of winning in the general.
And everywhere he needs to win in the general, he is hated.
This is a setup for disaster.
Yep, and he will also lose his home state(s) of Massachusetts and Michigan. McCain will look like Reagan in 1980 when the smoke clears on November 8th.
If we elect a solid majority in the House and the Senate (and we have to do that for any of these candidates if we want to make marked progress), I believe any of the four would work that congress and make a significant change in the country and its direction.
Having said that, Romney is quite a bit less desirable than Rick or Newt...and Rick is showing that he can fight Romney and win...particularly if all of the conservative vote is behind him.
If Newt threw in with Santorum tomorrow, I think Romney would get a few percentage of Newt's vote. I believe Paul would get a smaller percent.
So, let's say for grins that Newt threw in the towel and endorsed Santorum completely, advising his delegates to vote for Rick and then going on the campaign trail for him too.
If 6-7% of those people went for Mitt and 5% went for Paul, you would have 88% going to Rick.
In Alabama and Mississippi, this would have meant that Rick would have had a clear majority in both states, on the order of 60% or more. In one of those states (can't remeber which) if one candidate got over 50%, it was winner take all. Let's say that was Alabama.
Here's how it would have changed last night:
Alabama
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 18 - 50
Gingrich - 12 - 0
Romney - 12 - 0
Mississippi
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 13 - 25
Gingrich - 12 - 0
Romney 12 - 12
Hawaii
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santrorum - 1 - 2
Gingrich - 0 - 0 Romney - 15 - 14
Am. Samoa
Candidate - Actual delegates - Single Conservative Result
Santorum - 0 - 0
Gingrich - 0 - 0
Romnay - 9 - 9
What this means is that last night isntead of Santorum getting a total of 32 delegates and Romney 47, Santorum would have gotten 77 delegates and Romney 35. That's how it would begin to eat into Romney's lead.
As it was, Romney incresed his lead. Here are the detailed results from my GOP Primary Tracker Site:
| 2012 GOP Primaries | Date | Mitt Romney | Newt Gingrich | Rick Santorum | Ron Paul | Ron Huntsman | Rick Perry | Michele Bachman | Herman Cain | Totals | |||||||||||||||||||||
| Votes | % | Del's | Win | Votes | % | Del's | Win | Votes | % | Del's | Win | Votes | % | Del's | Win | Votes | % | Del's | Votes | % | Del's | Votes | % | Del's | Votes | % | Del's | Votes | Del's | ||
| Iowa | 1/3/2012 | 29,805 | 24.58% | 7 | - | 16,163 | 13.33% | 2 | - | 29,839 | 24.61% | 7 | 1 | 26,036 | 21.47% | 7 | - | 739 | 0.61% | 0 | 12,557 | 10.36% | 0 | 6,046 | 4.99% | 0 | 58 | 0.05% | 0 | 121,243 | 23 |
| New Hamp | 1/10/2012 | 97,601 | 39.81% | 7 | 1 | 23,291 | 9.50% | 0 | - | 23,362 | 9.53% | 0 | - | 56,872 | 23.20% | 3 | - | 41,783 | 17.04% | 2 | 1,764 | 0.72% | 0 | 350 | 0.14% | 0 | 160 | 0.07% | 0 | 245,183 | 12 |
| South Caro | 1/21/2012 | 168,152 | 27.86% | 2 | - | 244,133 | 40.44% | 23 | 1 | 102,492 | 16.98% | 0 | - | 78,362 | 12.98% | 0 | - | 1,173 | 0.19% | 0 | 2,534 | 0.42% | 0 | 491 | 0.08% | 0 | 6,326 | 1.05% | 0 | 603,663 | 25 |
| Florida | 1/31/2012 | 776,059 | 46.44% | 50 | 2 | 534,040 | 31.96% | 0 | - | 223,208 | 13.36% | 0 | - | 117,410 | 7.03% | 0 | - | 6,199 | 0.37% | 0 | 6,773 | 0.41% | 0 | 3,967 | 0.24% | 0 | 3,492 | 0.21% | 0 | 1,671,148 | 50 |
| Nevada | 2/4/2012 | 16,486 | 50.12% | 14 | 3 | 6,956 | 21.15% | 6 | - | 3,277 | 9.96% | 3 | - | 6,175 | 18.77% | 5 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 32,894 | 28 |
| Main | 2,190 | 39.65% | 9 | 4 | 349 | 6.32% | 0 | - | 989 | 17.90% | 3 | - | 1,996 | 36.13% | 7 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 5,524 | 19 | |
| Colorado | 2/7/2012 | 22,875 | 35.00% | 13 | - | 8,394 | 12.84% | 1 | - | 26,372 | 40.35% | 17 | 2 | 7,713 | 11.80% | 1 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 65,354 | 32 |
| Minnesota | 8,096 | 16.97% | 2 | - | 5,134 | 10.76% | 1 | - | 21,436 | 44.94% | 25 | 3 | 13,030 | 27.32% | 9 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 47,696 | 14 | |
| Missouri | 63,826 | 26.24% | 0 | - | 9,859 | 4.05% | 0 | - | 138,957 | 57.12% | 0 | 4 | 30,641 | 12.59% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 243,283 | 0 | |
| Arizona | 2/28/2012 | 216,805 | 47.99% | 29 | 5 | 74,110 | 16.40% | 0 | - | 122,088 | 27.03% | 0 | - | 38,753 | 8.58% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 451,756 | 29 |
| Michigan | 409,899 | 42.34% | 16 | 6 | 65,016 | 6.72% | 0 | - | 377,521 | 38.99% | 14 | - | 115,712 | 11.95% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 968,148 | 30 | |
| Washington | 3/3/2012 | 19,111 | 37.65% | 30 | 7 | 5,221 | 10.28% | 0 | - | 12,089 | 23.81% | 5 | - | 12,594 | 24.81% | 5 | - | 924 | 1.82% | 0 | 437 | 0.86% | 0 | 198 | 0.39% | 0 | 190 | 0.37% | 0 | 50,764 | 40 |
| Wyoming | 822 | 38.99% | 10 | 8 | 165 | 7.83% | 1 | - | 673 | 31.93% | 9 | - | 439 | 20.83% | 6 | - | 3 | 0.14% | 0 | 2 | 0.09% | 0 | 2 | 0.09% | 0 | 2 | 0.09% | 0 | 2,108 | 26 | |
| Alaska | 3/6/2012 | 4,285 | 32.52% | 8 | 9 | 1,856 | 14.09% | 3 | - | 3,860 | 29.30% | 7 | - | 3,175 | 24.10% | 6 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 13,176 | 24 |
| Georgia | S | 225,926 | 25.18% | 15 | - | 417,364 | 47.81% | 47 | 2 | 172,473 | 19.76% | 10 | - | 57,125 | 6.54% | 4 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 872,888 | 76 |
| Idaho | u | 27,514 | 61.61% | 32 | 10 | 940 | 2.11% | 0 | - | 8,115 | 18.17% | 0 | - | 8,086 | 18.11% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 44,655 | 32 |
| Massachusetts | p | 260,509 | 73.29% | 41 | 11 | 16,756 | 4.71% | 0 | - | 43,6114 | 12.27% | 0 | - | 34,575 | 9.735 | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 355,455 | 41 |
| N. Dakota | e | 2,691 | 23.71% | 7 | - | 961 | 8.48% | 2 | - | 4,510 | 39.74% | 11 | 5 | 3,186 | 28.07% | 8 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 11,349 | 28 |
| Ohio | r | 453,927 | 38.93% | 32 | 12 | 174,606 | 14.78% | 10 | - | 441,908 | 37.42% | 20 | - | 110,633 | 9.37% | 4 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 1,181,074 | 66 |
| Oklahoma | 80,291 | 28.34% | 13 | - | 78,686 | 27.77% | 13 | - | 96,759 | 34.15% | 14 | 6 | 27,572 | 9.73% | 13 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 283,208 | 43 | |
| Tennessee | T | 153,889 | 28.46% | 18 | - | 132,142 | 24.43% | 12 | - | 204,978 | 37.90% | 26 | 7 | 49,782 | 9.21% | 2 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 540,791 | 58 |
| Vermont | u | 22,533 | 41.01% | 9 | 13 | 4,606 | 8.39% | 0 | - | 13,401 | 24.39% | 4 | - | 14,407 | 26.22% | 4 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 54,949 | 17 |
| Virginia | e | 158,050 | 59.52% | 44 | 14 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 107,470 | 40.48% | 5 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 265,520 | 49 |
| Guam | 3/10/2012 | 215 | 100% | 9 | 15 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 215 | 9 |
| Marianna Is | 738 | 87.03% | 9 | 16 | 29 | 3.42% | 0 | - | 27 | 3.18% | 0 | - | 54 | 6.37% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 848 | 9 | |
| Virgin Is | 132 | 46.32% | 7 | 17 | 18 | 6.32% | 0 | - | 23 | 8.07% | 0 | - | 112 | 39.30% | 1 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 848 | 8 | |
| Kansas | 6,250 | 21.11% | 7 | - | 4,298 | 14.52% | 0 | - | 15,290 | 51.65% | 33 | 8 | 3,767 | 12.72% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 29,605 | 40 | |
| Alabama | 3/13/2012 | 178,601 | 29.70% | 11 | - | 179,919 | 29.92% | 12 | - | 212,343 | 35,31% | 18 | 9 | 30,494 | 5.07% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 601,357 | 50 |
| Mississippi | 85,922 | 30.66% | 12 | - | 88,676 | 31.64% | 12 | - | 93,182 | 33.25% | 13 | 10 | 12,498 | 4.46% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 40- | |
| Am Samoa | 70 | 100% | 9 | 17 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 9 | |
| Hawaii | 4,250 | 45.38% | 15 | 18 | 1,034 | 11.04% | 0 | - | 2,369 | 25.30% | 1 | - | 1,712 | 18.28% | 4 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 40 | |
| Missouri | 3/17/2012 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 52 |
| Puerto Rico | 3/18/2024 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 23 |
| Illinois | 3/20/2012 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 69 |
| Louisiana | 3/24/2012 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 46 |
| DC | 4/3/2012 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 19 |
| Maryland | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 37 | |
| Wisconsin | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 42 | |
| Conn | 4/24/2012 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 28 |
| Deleware | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 17 | |
| New York | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 95 | |
| Pennsylvania | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 72 | |
| Rhode Il | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | - | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 0.00% | 0 | 0 | 28 | |
| At large Del's | 30 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 36 | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| TOTALS | 3,513,072 | 38.50% | 520 | 19 | 2,103,711 | 23.05% | 148 | 2 | 2,404,803 | 26.35% | 249 | 10 | 974,095 | 10.68% | 83 | 0 | 64,481 | 0.71% | 2 | 38,011 | 0.42% | 0 | 16,529 | 0.18% | 0 | 10,228 | 0.11% | 0 | 9,125,930 | 1002 | |
| To Date % of | Delegates | Romney | 52% | Gingrich | 15% | Santorum | 21% | Paul | 9.7% | Huntsman | 0.30% | Perry | 0% | Bachman | 0% | Cain | 0% | ||||||||||||||
Again, it is even more clear after these primaries, that only by uniting, can Santorum and Gingrich prevent Romney from having the chance of winning the nomination outright. It would not have helped in Hawaii or American Samoa, but it would have given a much larger delegate count to the single more conservative candidate in Alabama and Mississippi. If they do not do this soon, mathematically, Romney will ultimately eak out a win and reach the golden number of delegates before the convention, sometime probably in late May or early June. It still seems, for whatever reason, that Gingrich is unwilling to do this.
With Gingrich's "southern strategy" now in a shambles (He has won two (Georigia and South Carolina), Romney has won two (Florida and Virginia) and Santorum has won three (Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama)), the pressure on Gingrich to unite behind Santorum is going to grow in both strength and urgency. Seven southern states votes and Santorum i ss leading the pack with three and Romney and Gingrich with two each in the south.
In the end, I will support whichever of these candidates wins the GOP nomination against the abject marxist ideolog, Obama, as any one of them will be far better. Four more years of his horrific leadership and fundamental change could easily put this nation in a economic, debt, foreign policy, and energy hole we will have a very difficult and very painful time of digging our way out of...and at the cost of decades of heavy burden placed on our children and grandchildren if we can do so at all and reverse the trends and mechanisms Obama is putting in place.
America is at the Crossroads of History
(http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm)
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