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Bus crash in Swiss tunnel kills 28 people, including 22 school children returning from trip
WashingtonPost ^ | 3-14-12

Posted on 03/14/2012 3:25:08 AM PDT by rawhide

GENEVA — A bus smashed into a tunnel wall in the Swiss Alps, killing 22 Belgian 12-year-olds returning from a ski vacation and the six adults who were accompanying them, police said Wednesday.

Another 24 students were hospitalized with injuries, Valais cantonal (state) police spokesman Jean-Marie Bornet told The Associated Press.

The bus carrying 52 people, including young students from two different Belgian schools, hit the tunnel wall shortly after 9 p.m. local time Tuesday on the A9 highway near Sierre, Switzerland, in the southern Swiss canton of Valais, an area of popular ski resorts.

Authorities were still identifying all the victims, said Didier Reynders, the Belgian foreign minister. It was unclear exactly how the accident happened, he said.

“It is incomprehensible,” Reynders said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: accident; bus; children; crash; school; swiss; tunnel

1 posted on 03/14/2012 3:25:17 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
“It is incomprehensible,” Reynders said.

Not if the driver fell asleep.

2 posted on 03/14/2012 3:26:52 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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3 posted on 03/14/2012 3:27:26 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

News video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84szC8vBCQ&feature=player_embedded#!


4 posted on 03/14/2012 3:29:35 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Six adult chaperones and one bus driver. Maybe they should have had five adult chaperones and two bus drivers, with the drivers taking turns.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 3:31:09 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

The video posted above indicates both drivers were killed.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 3:33:27 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

I didn’t watch the video. There were 2 drivers? Then this really doesn’t make any sense.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 3:43:50 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: rawhide

anyone know the whereabouts of Alan Grayson at the time?


8 posted on 03/14/2012 3:53:57 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: rawhide

One bus and two drivers? I don’t ride buses so maybe it is common to have two drivers?

And a tunnel should not have any “walls” that can be struck at a 90 degree angle. Perhaps it was a column wall between lanes with no guiding/guard rail to prevent a head on attack?

Prayers for all the families.


9 posted on 03/14/2012 4:22:29 AM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

It doesn’t matter how many drivers there were available only one was behind the wheel at the time of the accident.

A tragic accident.

Who knows: The driver could have had a heart attack.


10 posted on 03/14/2012 4:49:38 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: soycd

In Europe they normally have two drivers on tour groups. There are strict “driver” laws.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 5:53:04 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: rawhide

From the video and pictures the tunnel appears to have some curves that would allow for a fairly headon crash into a wall.


12 posted on 03/14/2012 6:07:55 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: rawhide

The bus must have been going awfully fast. Busses are safe largely because of their mass, which means they win most vehicular collisions, and size, which gives them a big crumple zone. The kids here must have really been tossed around.

Alternatively, there could have been fire and toxic fumes in an enclosed area, but I don’t think fire is allowed in the EU.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 6:12:44 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: rawhide

Updated story with many more pictures here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114749/Switzerland-coach-crash-22-Belgian-children-killed-dozens-hurt.html


14 posted on 03/14/2012 6:15:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: soycd

The front right side of bus hit a wall head-on. See the link at post #14 for pictures showing this.

The bus was reported to have been traveling ‘considerably faster’ in excess of the posted speed limit, when one of its tire hit the outside curb, causing the driver to lose control of the bus. The bus then rammed head-on into the wall.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 6:29:12 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Shery
There are strict “driver” laws.

Bus and truck drivers have (or did have) paper discs that they slide in behind the speedometer. The discs are transcribed with time and speed.

I think 8 hours is the max.

When I worked as a tour guide I would stay up and keep a conversation going with the driver on overnight bus trips.

France, for example, is a very monotonous drive a night.

This accident in Switzerland is more likely driver error than falling asleep, given the location and time of day.

16 posted on 03/14/2012 6:46:44 AM PDT by longjack
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To: rawhide
This photo posted at the UK Daily Mail site implies the driver behind the wheel drifted towards the right and up onto the curb, impacting at a point where a tunnel service entrance juts out a few feet. The front portion of the bus had all it's wheels on the raised curb surface. Prayers go out all the families. Horrible.
18 posted on 03/14/2012 7:46:59 AM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

The link didn’t work . . .here:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/14/article-2114749-1228B603000005DC-629_964x560.jpg


19 posted on 03/14/2012 7:49:29 AM PDT by wtd
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That had to a horrific crash, as reports are the driver was considerably above the speed limit of 63 mph when he that concrete barrier.


20 posted on 03/14/2012 8:02:27 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

What I am wondering is if there was a mechanical failure or the bus was tampered with.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 10:49:54 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: rawhide

A parent’s ultimate nightmare.


22 posted on 03/14/2012 10:54:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Vroni
Can you imagine having to explain THIS to the parents?

I wouldn't want to be that guy. There's just no making sense of something like this.

23 posted on 03/14/2012 11:15:20 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: wtd
No guard rail, 90 degree concrete abutment facing traffic - it's a mystery this exact same thing didn't happen in this exact same place years ago.

At the press conference, they said the bus was travelling at the proper speed, and that all of the passengers were buckled in with seat belts. Apparently the road bends at this point, and the right front tire hit the curb and jumped it. The driver lost control at the jump, and continued straight where the road turned.

Prayers for everyone involved. This is just horrible.


24 posted on 03/14/2012 12:07:42 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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