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Gingrich vows to press on after losing AL, MS
Boston Hearld ^ | 14 March 2012 | APes

Posted on 03/14/2012 6:56:08 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: ego; mitt; newt; newt4romney; santorum
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Meaty quote: "Gingrich says that rival Mitt Romney’s case for being the inevitable nominee has been crippled by his failure to win the two Deep South contests."

And, I suppose, Newt's case is right on track.

Hey, Newt, are you running against Santorum, Romney or Obama? The longer you stay in, the more it is looking like you are running against Rick Santorum.

1 posted on 03/14/2012 6:56:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

Newt is running for newts ego.


2 posted on 03/14/2012 7:02:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Vigilanteman

Newt needs to step out of the way and let Rick and Mittens duke it out.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 7:03:15 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Vigilanteman
Gingrich vows to press on after losing nearly winning AL, MS

There... fixed it

4 posted on 03/14/2012 7:03:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Mr. K
Gingrich vows to press on after nearly winning AL, MS

Yup, like the Germans almost won WW1 & WW2.

5 posted on 03/14/2012 7:05:51 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Vigilanteman

I think we’re about to find out if Sheldon Adleson is willing to throw away money like the people in his casinos.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 7:06:43 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Vigilanteman
Let me fix it for you:

Gingrich vows to press on after beating Romney in AL, MS

7 posted on 03/14/2012 7:06:56 AM PDT by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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To: org.whodat

Newt in the race keeps Romney from getting to the prize before the convention.

if newt drops out some of his support will go to Romney as well as Santorum

This way it proves 70% want someone MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN Romney

Romney is almost certain NOT TO win before the convention now, because he would have to get wins by close to 50% to sew it up. Which he has never done.

I hope Newt and Rick team up at the convention


8 posted on 03/14/2012 7:06:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Riodacat

I notice they didnt write “Romney vows to press on after losing” This is a gingrich hit piece


9 posted on 03/14/2012 7:07:49 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Vigilanteman

If you want to stop Romney, Newt must stay in. Santo by himself will not stop Romney!


10 posted on 03/14/2012 7:08:03 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: org.whodat

Gingrich is hoping to garner enough delegates to force the nomination to the convention.

His goal now is to play king-maker.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 7:09:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: iowamark

Let me fix it for you:
Gingrich vows to press on after beating Romney in AL, MS


Exactly.


12 posted on 03/14/2012 7:09:53 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: TomGuy

Yes, newt is always for newt.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 7:11:15 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

He’s running so those conservatives whom actually want to vote for substance can have something to vote for.

For everyone else, you have two equally empty suits to slobber over.


14 posted on 03/14/2012 7:11:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: Mr. K
after losing nearly winning

He's been 'nearly winning' since SC, then GA.

Even if he got the nomination, the second week of November we would be saying 'he nearly won, but he didn't.'

Of course, in 2008, McCain nearly won also. He came in 2nd.
15 posted on 03/14/2012 7:12:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Mr. K
Newt in the race keeps Romney from getting to the prize before the convention.

That idea only works in Newt's mind.

His staying in will impact the winner-take-all states. With him in many of those go to Romney.
16 posted on 03/14/2012 7:15:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: VanDeKoik
Real conservatives do not play kissie face with Nancy.
17 posted on 03/14/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

three more hours of Savage tonight spinning his conspiracy theories...


18 posted on 03/14/2012 7:20:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Riodacat

I disagree (although there ia an exception that I will address).

Let’s look at the math in this. Most proportional States have certain rules about who gains delegates and in which way. For example, a lot of States have a rule that you must hit the 20% threshold in order to gain delegates, and you win bonus delegates by winning Congressional districts.

So let’s look at Alabama last night.

Last night:
Santorum 35% — 17 delegates
Gingrich 29% — 12 delegates
Romney 29% — 10 delegates

Now if Gingrich wasn’t in last night, we would like to assume that all of his votes would go to Santorum, but likely some would go to Romney. If as little as 12% of Gingrich’s vote total had gone to Romney, the results might have looked like:

Santorum 59% — 27 delegates
Romney 34% — 12 delegates

Now if you are hoping for Santorum to win the nomination, that is a better outcome. But the odds are very long that Santorum will win the nomination. If your goal, however, is to stalemate Romney and deny him the nomination, Gingrich dropping out would be a bad thing because it would allow Romney the chance to build more delegates.

Now, the exception is that I believe Gingrich should pull all efforts from any “winner take all” State and work behind the scenes to push Santorum forward. Texas and Illinois could both fall to Santorum if Gingrich would do that, and that would seriously hamper Romney.


19 posted on 03/14/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: TomGuy

Seven reasons for Rick Santorum


  1. Who has won the most states without the benefit of their own money, last election's organization or a billionaire casino sugar daddy?
  2. Who is everybody's second choice when he isn't their first?
  3. Who can get both the Romney people and the Gingrich people, who hate each other, to vote for him?
  4. Who has the best record on immigration?
  5. Who has the best plan for repealing ObamaCare? And is the only GOP candidate who didn't help write or approve legislation which helped spawn this fiasco?
  6. Who has the best plan for expanding the American economy and strengthening American families?
  7. Who is the closest thing we have to the "generic Republican" which polls show consistently beating Obama and is most likely to make the election about Obama's sorry record rather than about himself?

20 posted on 03/14/2012 7:25:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

Newt should drop out for the sake of conservatism. Conservative Republicans have spoken, and they want Rick.

In Newt’s interviews last night, I saw hints that he may drop out before the next big winner-take-all primary.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 7:26:15 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Riodacat

“Newt needs to step out of the way and let Rick and Mittens duke it out.”

Agreed...but I heard some rumblings about a Rick/Newt ticket? This current primary has been so unconventional why not announce the ticket? By combining their shared mojo it could prove to be an insurmountable defense against Mitt...unless he is then pushed to name a VP early and then it would be game on.

by the way I believe it would be a Rick/Newt ticket since Rick has earned it thus far.


22 posted on 03/14/2012 7:28:30 AM PDT by AlwaysFrosty
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To: Riodacat

Santorum and Romney are duking it out. Gingrich is keeping Romney from being crowed glory king.
Way to go Newt!!!! Stay in the race.


23 posted on 03/14/2012 7:34:33 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Riodacat
How about Mitt improving his message so that he will be more acceptable....Such as lowering income taxes to 15%. How silly of me, that low rate is only for him!
24 posted on 03/14/2012 7:34:52 AM PDT by The Old Commander (Where is Madam dufarge when we need her?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

What crystal ball are you reading that makes you so confident that Gingrich votes will go to Santorum or not just be split between Santorum/Romney and maybe even Paul.


25 posted on 03/14/2012 7:38:38 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“I think we’re about to find out if Sheldon Adleson is willing to throw away money like the people in his casinos.”

Of course he is willing especially if he really wants Mitt to win. By singlehandely keeping Newt’s campaign alive he is assuring Rick dosesn’t level a death blow to the Mitt campaign, which would have been the case in Ohio if Newt had not been a contender.
This is where I question Newt’s integrity (and I voted for him before I knew this)...We have to wonder is he staying in as the spoiler for Mitt or Rick? Is Mr. Adleson’s money actually an indirect contribution to the Mitt campaign? Why else would he donate to a candidate that is showing he has no chance at getting the nomination?
If Newt joins forces with Rick then I can admit I was wrong, but until then I’m thinking that Newt’s desire to stay in can only be to help Mitt.


26 posted on 03/14/2012 7:40:04 AM PDT by AlwaysFrosty
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Here's the diff:
Except for a very few exceptions (e.g. Mass), even those States which Mittens has won, he hardly ever got more than 35% - 40% of the vote.
Which means that the overwhelming majority of Republicans DO NOT WANT Mittens as their nominee.
He wins, because the conservative vote is split.
Conservatives have consistently won GT 50% of the vote.
If a single Conservative candidate were to consistently win GT 50% of the popular vote, that person would be the nominee (IMHO).
27 posted on 03/14/2012 7:40:04 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: The Old Commander
How about Mitt improving his message so that he will be more acceptable.

Have no fear.
Once Mittens has the nomination, the message will be improved - to attract moderates and Democrats.

28 posted on 03/14/2012 7:42:19 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Vigilanteman

We need more debates.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 7:42:52 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Read a book!)
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To: org.whodat

Real conservatives don’t vote pro-union and for annual debt increases and minimum wage increases either.


30 posted on 03/14/2012 7:45:04 AM PDT by Ethrane ("obsta principiis")
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To: svcw

-——What crystal ball are you reading that makes you so confident that Gingrich votes will go to Santorum or not just be split between Santorum/Romney and maybe even Paul.-——

Gingrich and Santorum share the social conservative vote, with Rick having the edge. The libertine vote is already going to Paul and Romney.


31 posted on 03/14/2012 7:45:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: svcw
Gingrich is keeping Romney from being crowed glory king.

Huh??
Do you really believe that the votes going to Gingrich would otherwise go to Mittens?
Who are Gingrich supporters?
My guess is that they prepared to overlook Gingrich's personal weakenesses and failures in order to nominate a strong Conservative.
If Newt were out of the race, why would you think they would run to Mittens rather than the only other Conservative in the race?
BTW, in full disclosure, I was Herman Cain supporter before he was taken out and then a Newt supporter.
But Newt has proven to be unacceptable to most Republicans (probably for past failures and personality weaknesses).

32 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:01 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Vigilanteman
Figless Newton has more baggage than Southwest carries daily. He's drunk too much Potomac water. Another narcissist who is no Conservative.

Look at what Newt does not what he says. He's as phony as Soetoro. FUNG.

33 posted on 03/14/2012 7:55:23 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Vigilanteman; Jim Robinson
Though Newt would likely make a better president than Santorum, the smart money is saying that unless we want Romney, Newt needs to GTFO of the race at his earliest convenience.

Earliest convenience = now.

34 posted on 03/14/2012 7:56:18 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Riodacat

No, they wouldn’t.
Look at the math, Romney needs to win 49.7% of the delegates left.

If he wins California, New York and New Jersey (winner take all States that he will likely win), he would only need about 33% of the remaining delegates to clinch.

With Gingrich keeping his numbers down in the proportional States, it gives a chance to keep Romney under that number if Santorum can win the winner take all States of Texas, Illinois, and Pennsylvania.

If Gingrich gets out, Romney will pick up 1 or 2 or 3 extra delegates from all of those proportional contests. And if that happens, Romney absolutely gets to 1144.


35 posted on 03/14/2012 8:00:33 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Riodacat

I have know idea where Gingrich votes would go, and neither does anyone else, that’s the point. Somehow the assumption is that they would all go to Santorum, that is what I depute.
What is more likely to happen is that Gingrich votes would be split between Santorum/Romney and a few going to Paul.
Those pealed off votes from Gingrich might be enough to make Romney the nominee.
Bottom line is that no one knows what would happen to Gingrich’s votes, for me I want him to stay even if the only thing that happens is that Romney wont take the prize during the nomination process.
Personally, I had hoped Gingrich would be doing a lot better by now.


36 posted on 03/14/2012 8:02:24 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: org.whodat

“Newt is running for newts ego.”

Stupidest statement I’ve seen on here in along time.


37 posted on 03/14/2012 8:13:41 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: Berlin_Freeper
We need more debates.

Not going to happen unless Newt wants to debate himself or Ron Paul.

Anybody that's honest, whether they support Newt or not, will freely admit he's the best debater in the game.

Debates are useful for winnowing the field. Much less so than when people are familiar with the candidates. And totally useless when the opponents avoid them.

The potential backlash for ducking a debate is far less than the backlash for getting creamed in one.

For those who salivate at the prospect of a Gingrich-Obama debate, be assured that the Kenyan's handlers will keep them to a minimum or even avoid them altogether. Gingrich could beat Obama in debates even if Obama's people pick venues, pack the audience with syncopates, pick moderators which are even worse than syncopates, and give him the questions in advance. Do you think Obama's handlers don't know this?

38 posted on 03/14/2012 8:26:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Look, I know she’s abhorent ...but to me, this picture does not condemn Newt to me like it does so many others.

Even as a conservative, I AM also concerned about the environment, and I hope that someday, we find solutions to our REAL environmental problems. Not the manufactured ones ...but any real ones that might be out there.

To do it, we need money, which is why we need a great fiscal conservative like Newt.

But at some point, EVERYONE will need to work together ...my hope is that rational science along with the resources garnered through capitalism and free markets will solve these problems — rationally, and logically. I think Newt would be in for that ...and that’s a good thing.

I’m interested in clean air and water. I don’t want to ruin our natural resources. But there’s a way to do it rationally, and with the right scientific evidence ...unlike the Dems who could likely TRULY care less about it, but just want to use it to advance their demonic agenda.


39 posted on 03/14/2012 8:46:01 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Vigilanteman

I feel the debates ended too early. Not enough people were paying attention. We need more, definitely. And now we’ll just have to wait until the fall when our nominee debates Obama ....IF they debate to Obama.


40 posted on 03/14/2012 8:47:19 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: org.whodat

They also dont endorse Arlen Spector and Mitt Romney.

I guess that leaves you without a candidate.


41 posted on 03/14/2012 8:51:50 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: org.whodat

Newt needs to get out, Now! This is turning out to be sabotage.


42 posted on 03/14/2012 8:52:47 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Newt’s voters are not Santorum’s by right.

Sorry, but we are not sabotaging anything.


43 posted on 03/14/2012 8:56:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm supporting Newt.)
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To: LibsRJerks
And that's the problem. You can't have debates without participants. And despite my differences with Newt, I'll concede that challenging him to a debate is like challenging Kobe Bryant to a game of basketball.

Who will take the bait?

44 posted on 03/14/2012 9:02:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Steelfish

Will someone...anyone...tell me the value of Newt staying in the contest?
1. He cannot win the nomination
2. A split convention will not give him the nomination
3. He’s a spoiler for the anti-Romney faction
4. He’s handing the nomination to Romney
5. He’s using up valuable resources from working folk who continue to send money to a dying cause and may not have it to give to the general election.

There seems to be no upside to his staying in, and full disclosure I voted for Newt in my primary. Like it was said in the movie Gladiator... “People should know when they are conquered.” Newt is conquered, and he knows it so why continue?

Still...any GOOD arguments for Newt staying in I will gladly entertain.


45 posted on 03/14/2012 9:04:01 AM PDT by AlwaysFrosty
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To: Vigilanteman

“Gingrich vows to press on”

For whom?

If Santorum had lost big to newt last night, I’d be pulling off my bumpersticker and throwing in with newt. We need to stop the Rom.

The difference between a palin, a Santorum, etc, and a Gingrich is that the former two etc know that anyone like them, a Gdfearing conservative, is needed in the WH. Newt thinks Newt is needed in the White House. Newt can’t think socially. He’s a bit tone deaf, maybe spectrum-y if you know what I mean. He’s still great to listen to and should be in the admin somewhere.


46 posted on 03/14/2012 9:09:53 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: Vigilanteman

This is pretty smart on Newt’s part. What he should do is pull out and endorse Santorum at a strategic moment calculated to do the most damage to Romney. Immediately prior to Illinois would be good, but there will be plenty of other opportunities. If he was to pull out now, he’d be old news in a week.


47 posted on 03/14/2012 9:13:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Goal #1: Defeat Romney. Goal #2: Defeat Obama. If we don't achieve both goals, 2012 is a loss.)
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To: Mr. K
Newt in the race keeps Romney from getting to the prize before the convention.

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this is not true. John King last night with his touch screen delegate map very deftly and clearly went through the scenarios. He showed the rest of the states with slightly generous give to Santorum where he has a chance, and romney doing well where he most likely will. He showed the delegate count both with newt still in, and with him stepping out now.

Santorum beats Romney only if newt drops out. If newt stays in, either Romney gets the # or it goes to the convention. Meaning most likely romney gets it. Newt is hurting conservatives by staying in. He still will have power at the convention if he gets out now. Along with "statesmanship" instead of "spoilership."

48 posted on 03/14/2012 9:18:28 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012 - we need a STEADY conservative President)
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To: VanDeKoik
Algore still thinks he won Florida.
49 posted on 03/14/2012 9:38:19 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: AlwaysFrosty; Yaelle; DoughtyOne; Steelers6; skeeter; Elvina; AmericanInTokyo; Vaquero; ...

At this point in time Gingrich staying in the race comes close to sabotage. Polls shows that he splits the Tea-Party and male vote with Santorum. He was a “spoiler” in WA, MI, and OH where Romney won with razon thin margins (just 1% in OH and 3% in MI). Carl Cameron on FoxNews reported on Super Tuesday night that the Romney camp is “happy” that Gingrich continues to stay in the race. And last night, John King of CNN used the electronic CNN Electoral Map to demonstrate a scenario on how if Gingrich were to quit even now, Santorum may be able to catch up Romney on the delgate count.

Gingrich, despite carrying baggage that is enough to bring down a fleet of commercial airlines, given his sky-high unfavorability ratings and unbridgeabl gender gap, especially with working women, is simply un electable and he is in it now for his own ego and in the process is wittingly or unwittingly engaging in conservative sabotage. There is no rational answer to any of the queries raised by AlwaysFrosty.


50 posted on 03/14/2012 9:59:14 AM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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