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Romney’s Delegate Lead Grows
The Washington Post ^ | March 14, 2012 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 03/14/2012 8:40:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro

Despite his losses in the Alabama and Mississippi primaries, Mitt Romney appears to have expanded his delegate lead on Tuesday.

The most recent projections from AP show Rick Santorum took 31 delegates from Alabama and Mississippi, while Newt Gingrich took 24 delegates and Romney got 23

But this morning, Romney was projected to win all nine delegates from American Samoa’s caucuses, and he also won the Hawaii caucuses by a large margin.

AP projections show Romney beat Santorum 18 delegates to four in those jurisdictions.

So, as of this morning, Romney has won 41 delegates from Tuesday’s contests, compared to 35 for Santorum, thereby expanding Romney’s delegate lead. (Gingrich is projected to have won 24 delegates.)

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To: SoConPubbie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012

Looking at how future primaries are structured, you will observe there are many states with WTA-CD & WTA-AL. Which means the winner in each congressional district takes all delegates. And the At Large delegates also win with a simple majority. With 4 candidates in the race one does not need 46% or even 40% to win all delegates, just 30% can win all delegates in a district if the other 3 candidates divide the other 70% with no one beating the 30%. Also observe the winner take all states of PR, DC & UT where one needs a simple majority to win all delegates.


61 posted on 03/14/2012 10:48:40 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: aegiscg47

And don’t be surprised if Florida’s -50 penalized delegates suddenly reappear in the Romney column...


62 posted on 03/14/2012 10:50:39 AM PDT by magritte (Gladys Knight: Mormon Siren?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Just looking at your scenario, if Romney takes the 8 winner-take-all states and wins only 30% of the vote in the proportional races that already puts him over the top with 1174 delegates

Actually, no.

Total delegates in winner-take-all states: 219
Romney's current Delegate count: 475-496
Total possible if Romney wins all WTA Primaries: 715
Remaining Primary Delegate count: 1061
Delegates needed by Romney to Win: 1144-715 = 429

Percentage of remaining Delegates Romney must win to win nomination without going to a Convention: 429/1061 = 40%

That number will change dynamically, and not for the good of Romney, as the false mantra of FoxNews, the GOP-E, and the MSM about the inevitability and electability of Romney keeps sinking in with the base.
63 posted on 03/14/2012 10:50:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: JediJones
Illinois
Wisconsin
Maryland
New York
Pennsylvania
Connecticut
Delaware
West Virginia
Texas
California
New Jersey

most of the above states are NE Romney states, where he wins either a 2 or 3 man race. Rick might take his home state of PA, but remember he lost his re-election there by 18 points.

Rick could win in TX, WV and WI.

But, the math shows improbable path to Rick reaching 1144.

The goal must be to stop Mitt from getting to 1144 before the convention.

64 posted on 03/14/2012 10:53:11 AM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: magritte

Yep, more proof that the fix was in all along


65 posted on 03/14/2012 10:58:22 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Futhermore, he needs 46% of the remaining vote to win the nomination outright, he won’t get 46% of the remaining vote and each primary he does not get 46% of the vote, that percentage only goes higher.”

Not correct. If Newt stays in the race we have 4 candidates dividing the votes since Dr. Paul will not drop out. There are a ton of states coming up where delegates are awarded by WTA-CD. Which means winner takes all by congressional district. Assume Paul gets 10%, Newt gets 25%. That leaves 65% divided between Santorum & Romney. Which means 33% wins ALL delegates in that district.


66 posted on 03/14/2012 11:00:21 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: Iron Munro

Just wait until Romney wins winner-take-all states like Puerto Rico (23), Maryland (37 delegates), DC (19), Delaware (17), California (172), New Jersey (50), and Utah (40). [Not sure if he’ll win winner-take-all Wisconsin (42).] Those wins add up to 358 more delegates. If he wins those and loses Wisconsin, Romney only need 33% of the remaining from the proportional states.


67 posted on 03/14/2012 11:01:51 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: entropy12
Not correct. If Newt stays in the race we have 4 candidates dividing the votes since Dr. Paul will not drop out. There are a ton of states coming up where delegates are awarded by WTA-CD. Which means winner takes all by congressional district. Assume Paul gets 10%, Newt gets 25%. That leaves 65% divided between Santorum & Romney. Which means 33% wins ALL delegates in that district.

All built on assumptions by you.

I hate to break to you buddy, but we ain't voting for Mitt ROmney.

And if he wins the nomination, we all lose.

Best be getting busy trying to make sure he does not win, than trying to convince everyone about the FALSE inevitability of Mitt Romney.
68 posted on 03/14/2012 11:02:20 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: MichaelNewton
Just wait until Romney wins winner-take-all states like Puerto Rico (23), Maryland (37 delegates), DC (19), Delaware (17), California (172), New Jersey (50), and Utah (40). [Not sure if he’ll win winner-take-all Wisconsin (42).] Those wins add up to 358 more delegates. If he wins those and loses Wisconsin, Romney only need 33% of the remaining from the proportional states.

Sorry to break it to you, but as already discussed on this thread, California is not a winner-take-all state.

It is a Congressional District WTA state effectively making it proportional, which meand your 358 just became 189.

Which also means your 33% is north of 40%.
69 posted on 03/14/2012 11:04:58 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

RCP has it listed incorrectly then.

Romney got about 40% of the delegates yesterday and that was one of his bad showings.


70 posted on 03/14/2012 11:07:12 AM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA
most of the above states are NE Romney states, where he wins either a 2 or 3 man race. Rick might take his home state of PA, but remember he lost his re-election there by 18 points.

Actually, as of today, Rick maintains a 20% lead over Romney in PA according to the Quinnipac poll.
71 posted on 03/14/2012 11:07:32 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
"The following are Winner-take-all:"

1. Puerto Rico
2. Maryland
3. Washington D.C.
4. Wisconsin
5. Delaware
6. California
7. New Jersey
8. Utah

and Romney is ahead in all the above, winner take all states. Rick's best chance is WI with a slim chance at CA if he has the momentum at that time.

Romney must be denied reaching 1144 by being limited to gaining fewer delegates in the proportional states since Mitt has such an advantage in the winner take all states.

72 posted on 03/14/2012 11:08:12 AM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA

We just found out that California is a Congressional District WTA, which in effect means it is proportional as well.

Romney can win the nomination.

He’s dead in the water.


73 posted on 03/14/2012 11:10:37 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; A_Niceguy_in_CA

Sorry that should have read:

Romney CAN’T WIN the nomination.


74 posted on 03/14/2012 11:11:31 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Agreed, Romney is not the best candidate against Obama. That would be Newt. I do not feel comfortable with Santorum going in debates with Obama. Obama will suck him in a religious & contraception issues in debates and Santorum will jump in the trap.

However Santorum would make a better president than Romney.

I thought we were discussing probabilities of who might win nomination, NOT who we WANT & WISH to win.


75 posted on 03/14/2012 11:11:58 AM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans do not hate, that is a monopoly of democrats.)
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To: SoConPubbie

It will be a controlled convention and the liberals of the GOP will not allow a conservative to obtain the nomination. We will have a liberal lackey shoved down our throats with a conservative VP slot bone tossed to us in hope of keeping conservatives on the reservation. The fix is in.


76 posted on 03/14/2012 11:25:23 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: SoConPubbie
"Actually, as of today, Rick maintains a 20% lead over Romney in PA according to the Quinnipac poll."

Rick needs to win his home state, Newt and Mitt won their home states by large margins. However, Romney will still end up with delegates from PA

77 posted on 03/14/2012 11:25:44 AM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: SoConPubbie

Glad that CA is proportional. Romney has a lot of money to spend on negative ads in CA. He needs to be denied delegates.


78 posted on 03/14/2012 11:29:58 AM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: agere_contra

Don’t count Paul. He will give his delegates to Romney in exchange for either VP or some other impt job.

Pray he doesn’t get many more delegates.

The winner-take-all states are the big concern. Plus, Romney will take Calif and NY.

Santorum will get Penn and maybe Gingrich will get Tx, but his 2nd & 3rd place performances won’t make it easy for Perry to sell him.

Gingrich would have been formidable had he represented a solid south. Instead, he looks weak.

I think that folks are looking at how candidates can be defeated and Gingrich took it on the chin in Florida. Folks are afraid that will be repeated.


79 posted on 03/14/2012 11:30:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SoConPubbie
It is a Congressional District WTA state effectively making it proportional, which meand your 358 just became 189.

That's true, if Romney gets shut out - as in, he loses all 53 congressional districts. He'll probably win the majority of the districts plus the 10 at large delegates awarded to the overall winner. Worst case he gets 90 district delegates + 10. J.M.O.

80 posted on 03/14/2012 11:32:51 AM PDT by muleskinner
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