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Obama's DOJ strikes again: Swimming pools need wheelchair lifts.
The Washington Examiner ^ | 3/13/2012 | Conn Carroll

Posted on 03/14/2012 11:25:37 AM PDT by dmzTahoe

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If I were CEO of a major hotel chain, or owner of a single motel with a pool, I would close guest access to the pool and inform all guests that Obama and his out of control DOJ were the reason. I would think the outrage would spread like wildfire.
1 posted on 03/14/2012 11:25:40 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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What going happen if you have one of disabled right person and want swim in the pool RIGHT NOW you don’t have that would you still be sue

In my state California i think so

Moonbeam Jerry BRown has so much regulations in our state


2 posted on 03/14/2012 11:27:27 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: dmzTahoe

link: http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2012/03/thursday-poolmageddon-trial-lawyers/367846


3 posted on 03/14/2012 11:27:44 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: dmzTahoe

I can imagine the cost of such a lift.


4 posted on 03/14/2012 11:28:17 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: dmzTahoe

Do motel/hotel pools count as “public pools?”


5 posted on 03/14/2012 11:28:40 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: SevenofNine

Quick money for the scum sucking attorneys and their entitled clients... just find someone in a wheelchair and check in at a Holiday Inn, orr a big hotel in Vegas (Bellagio or the Wynn). Deep pockets and “law breakers” per the DOJ.


6 posted on 03/14/2012 11:29:52 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: GSWarrior
Do motel/hotel pools count as “public pools?”

Yep, per the article and DOJ ruling, they do.

7 posted on 03/14/2012 11:31:11 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: dmzTahoe

This will drain public swimming pools faster than a floating Babyruth. Small towns like mine can barely afford to have a public pool. This additional cost will be too much.


8 posted on 03/14/2012 11:32:20 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

Gotta spread the word about this... it’s often the small things that cause the outrage.

Hey Obama... We don’t swim in your DC toilets... please don’t p**s in our pools!


9 posted on 03/14/2012 11:35:29 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: jonrick46

All these hotel pools are built intentionally small since most jurisdictions require a lifeguard (or even two) over a certain square footage.

I can only imagine that providing a lift for a wheelchair user i.e. a handicapped person would require a lifeguard as well. There is no ‘swim at your own risk’ when someone requires assistance simply to enter or exit the water.


10 posted on 03/14/2012 11:35:35 AM PDT by relictele (We are officially OUT of other people's money!)
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To: jonrick46

Buy stock in pool lift companies.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 11:36:31 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: dmzTahoe

This is like building a wheelchair ramp access onto a skating rink, which was done in the People’s Republic of Austin a few years ago.

So when will wheelchair elevators be installed on diving boards at swimming pools? Oh, wait! Diving boards have been removed because they pose a danger to swimmers.

Next, the Obamagestapo will order the water drained from pools because of documentation that it is the major cause of pool drownings.


12 posted on 03/14/2012 11:38:09 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: relictele

plus, there is a liability issue by not having a lifeguard on duty if the lift is misused, causing injury. You can imagine the attraction the lift will have for unsupervised kids.


13 posted on 03/14/2012 11:38:28 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: BO Stinkss

Exactly, they just killed off most of the public pools, however that is defined. If it affects city/county/state parks, then Holder’s people may be hit the hardest. What a bunch of effin wanabe kings we have running (ruining) the country.


14 posted on 03/14/2012 11:39:13 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Buy stock in pool lift companies.”

Particularly, one whose CEO is a large Obama contributor and/or a family member of a leftist in Congress.


15 posted on 03/14/2012 11:40:42 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: dmzTahoe
I would close guest access to the pool and inform all guests that Obama and his out of control DOJ were the reason.

the closing of the pools will happen for sure. I doubt though any corporate CEO will make a peep about Obama.

16 posted on 03/14/2012 11:41:54 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Mich Patriot

The ruling also includes spas... so if there is a pool and a spa, they need two seperate lifts. And the lifts need to be permanent, ruling out the use of a portable one.


17 posted on 03/14/2012 11:43:02 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: dmzTahoe

Government regulation, especially Federal have been stupid for a long time!

I spent ten years commuting to DC via the MARC train. Was always annoyed because there were never enough working toilets on the train. The individual car toilets were always locked. If you take heart meds, which I do, you have to visit the accommodations much more often. Seems federal regulations requires that the toilets be locked if everyone, including wheelchair bound, can’t use the facilities. Yeah, makes a lot of sense to force someone to disembark or piss from the train platform! Both, of which, I’ve done. Funny thing, a man can pee anywhere!


18 posted on 03/14/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: PGR88

at $10,000 a lift, one each for a pool and spa... large chains have how many pools and spas? I would think this would cause a few CEO’s some concern.


19 posted on 03/14/2012 11:44:46 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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"on diving boards"

In what edenic paradise do you live where they still allow diving boards?

20 posted on 03/14/2012 11:44:46 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dmzTahoe

This will certainly mean the closing of the Middle School pool which is open to the public in our town. The school system is at a breaking point and I am sure there are zero funds available for this communist stupidity.

These vile maggots are pushing the Cloward and Piven strategy to the very limits to collapse the system.


21 posted on 03/14/2012 11:46:30 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: GSWarrior

Back to basics, I guess.

22 posted on 03/14/2012 11:49:11 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Wurlitzer
This will certainly mean the closing of the Middle School pool which is open to the public in our town. The school system is at a breaking point and I am sure there are zero funds available for this communist stupidity.

Could use this for our advantage... hot, long summer... cities close all swimming pools due to this regulation... November vote. Another example of an out of control DOJ. If only we had a candidate that would add this to the campaign stump.

23 posted on 03/14/2012 11:50:33 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: thouworm

S.R. Smith is a large manufacturer of pool lifts. Their current CEO used to work for GE...


24 posted on 03/14/2012 11:51:22 AM PDT by Mrs.FuzzyG
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To: BO Stinkss
"This will drain public swimming pools faster than a floating Babyruth"

In California they passed this thing called the "Deep Pockets" law, i.e. if multiple people are at fault for an accident the one with the most money (not the most at fault) gets to pay most of the damages.

If little Johnny got hurt from being pushed off the top of a slide by little Bobby and little Bobby's parents were destitute, then the city got to foot the bill.

It was only a few months before all of the playground equipment at all of the public parks was put off limits or removed.

25 posted on 03/14/2012 11:53:23 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dmzTahoe

Yeah in Vegas can you imagine that

I bet lawyer send his/her client try check in to Holiday Inn or one of fancy hotels complain there no pool access for disabled sue for BIG Money

Also what about you can’t discrimnate against your other hotel guests who want use the hotels how you going react to that


26 posted on 03/14/2012 11:53:44 AM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: dmzTahoe; BO Stinkss

A lot of time, people who need wheelchairs also don’t have bowel or bladder control.


27 posted on 03/14/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Mrs.FuzzyG
S.R. Smith is a large manufacturer of pool lifts. Their current CEO used to work for GE...

Noooo, heaven forbid... you aren't insinuating it is all about money, are you??? Shame on you, you Obama hater, vast rightwinger... not this administration!!! (sarcasm)

28 posted on 03/14/2012 11:54:58 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: Mich Patriot

what makes you think the pools where Holders peepul swim wont get a Fed grant so the taxpayers get to finance the lift. Bank on it.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 11:57:34 AM PDT by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: dmzTahoe

Run with this, add to list how the Obama administration has gone off the deep end

America needs a tsunami in DC to wipe away these tyrants

Stand with Newt


30 posted on 03/14/2012 11:58:07 AM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: dmzTahoe
POOL CLOSED, POOL CLOSED
31 posted on 03/14/2012 11:58:33 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: BO Stinkss
This will drain public swimming pools faster than a floating Babyruth.

LOL. I guess we need Bill Murray to clean this up. Carl Spackler, the groundskeeper, for President.

32 posted on 03/14/2012 12:02:29 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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If only we had a candidate that would add this to the campaign stump.

Have you not been paying attention? Newt is the ONLY candidate sharing plans and details to fix this country, the others are empty suits.


33 posted on 03/14/2012 12:02:46 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; Carl Vehse
So when will wheelchair elevators be installed on diving boards at swimming pools? Oh, wait! Diving boards have been removed because they pose a danger to swimmers. - Carl Vehse

In what edenic paradise do you live where they still allow diving boards? - who_would_fardels_bear

Care to read it again?

34 posted on 03/14/2012 12:04:03 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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It was only a few months before all of the playground equipment at all of the public parks was put off limits or removed.

No way... are you serious?


35 posted on 03/14/2012 12:05:00 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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Let’s see who runs with this first... Newt or Santorum. People can relate to this.


36 posted on 03/14/2012 12:05:31 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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plus, there is a liability issue by not having a lifeguard on duty if the lift is misused, causing injury. You can imagine the attraction the lift will have for unsupervised kids.

You're doing it wrong.

All the executive branch has to do is decree that all pools have a lifeguard on duty 24/7, then mandate that these lifts have specially designed cages to keep unsupervised kids off.

See how easy this is?

37 posted on 03/14/2012 12:10:33 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: dmzTahoe

bttt


38 posted on 03/14/2012 12:10:45 PM PDT by advertising guy (Sarah just jumped..........game on boys.)
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S.R. Smith is a large manufacturer of pool lifts. Their current CEO used to work for GE...

Poolgate... I'm sure our crackpot, investigative journalists in the media will look into this...

39 posted on 03/14/2012 12:10:53 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: dmzTahoe

Our town put in a lift in 2001. That’s good, but my gracious what a lot of trouble for the one or two people that might use it.


40 posted on 03/14/2012 12:11:19 PM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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All the executive branch has to do is decree that all pools have a lifeguard on duty 24/7...

You're right... then Obama can claim he added to job growth.

41 posted on 03/14/2012 12:12:58 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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Bingo


42 posted on 03/14/2012 12:16:04 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: dmzTahoe

fer later


43 posted on 03/14/2012 12:19:43 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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“A lot of time, people who need wheelchairs also don’t have bowel or bladder control.”

Yuck. Now they will be cess pools.


44 posted on 03/14/2012 12:21:02 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: dmzTahoe

I went to North Point High School in Waldorf the other day and one of the things I noticed was a ramp down one side of the pool for handicapped.

I suppose it wouldn’t cost too much when you are building a large municipal pool to include a ramp, but of course trying to put one in a pool already built would be kind of tough, and expensive.

It isn’t so hard getting them in, just take them to the edge and lift the back of the chair. Getting them out is the problem.


45 posted on 03/14/2012 12:21:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: dmzTahoe

Hey, right now it’s public swimming pools. Next, it’ll be private pools. Then finally ponds, lakes and oceans. I’m sure that right now Holder has some junior attorneys trying to figure out how to sue God.


46 posted on 03/14/2012 12:23:24 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Excellence
Curious if this mandate applies to the beaches at our oceans, lakes and man-made recreational reservoirs. If so, how many per mile or per 100 meters? What about the Senate swimming pool? Should there be water slides for the disabled?

FWIW, there are a couple of lawyers in the SF Bay Area whose entire career is based on shaking down restaurants for ADA facilities both in rest rooms and for wheel chair access to the door. They usually get a settlement of $50-100k. Like taking candy from a ...

47 posted on 03/14/2012 12:23:58 PM PDT by masadaman
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It isn’t so hard getting them in, just take them to the edge and lift the back of the chair.

Reminds me of that nasty add the Dems ran of Repubs tossing a wheelchair bound old lady over a cliff. Maybe we should demand lifts on cliffs so entry would be easier...

48 posted on 03/14/2012 12:25:34 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Buy stock in pool lift companies.

1. Price the cost of a pool lift.

2. Price the cost of a construction company filling the pool with dirt.

Invest in the cheaper option.

49 posted on 03/14/2012 12:34:50 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Carl Vehse

I visited Russia in ‘88, and had a real KGB tour guide. We stopped at the huge municipal pool in Moscow and listened to her talking about how the pool was for the public, free, open 24/7, etc, etc.

Only problem: the pool was empty and looked like it had been empty for a long time. The guide acted like she couldn’t see that it was empty.


50 posted on 03/14/2012 12:56:11 PM PDT by EggsAckley ( There's an Ethiopian in the fuel supply ! ! ..)
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