Skip to comments.Marines told to disarm before Panetta speech
Posted on 03/14/2012 12:23:24 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
Marines waiting for Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta to speak at Camp Leatherneck were ordered by Sgt Maj. Brandon Hall to go out and leave their weapons outside the room. Panetta arrived in Afghanistan Wednesday for a two-day visit amidst heightened tensions after an American soldier was alleged to have killed 16 Afghan civilians.
It was an unusual request as it is not customary to disarm for a defense secretary visits.
The Marines did as they were told. There were about two dozen Afghan soldiers in attendance who were unarmed.
Hall was told to do so by Maj. Gen. Mark Gurganus, who commands troops in Helmand province. Asked about the order to disarm, Hall told the New York Times's Elisabeth Bumiller: Somebody got itchy, thats all Ive got to say. Somebody got itchy; we just adjust. The Times was told
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The Marines were ordered to stack arms so these guys wouldn't feel singled out.
What a pussy!
Worthless POS political general.
I guess they, from SOD down, are looking for a repeat of the Beirut barracks catastrophe of 1983. If so, I hope the SOD is a beneficiary.
This right after an Afghan set himself on fire with acar bomb when the SecDefs plane landed on a “ secret” mission. It’s like a Monty Python skit...
Did they make them stack their shoes?
OK so they ordered Marines in a war in the FIELD to undergo Gay Sensitivity Training, then a lot of their fellow Marines were RIF’ed out, and then for this visit after this traged, they considered the question:
“What might a REASONABLE person do...?”
And THEN these guys were told to remove their weapons —that says a VERY lot about what the leadership thinks about their own leadership.
Panetta is a left communist who works for a fasacist president. INteresting that someone thinks he might get bumped off. And the last time I checked the USMC would not need a gun to do it.Disarming would not prevent Panetta’s demise if it was planned.
Its a leftist liberal fascist statement of control to our servicemen. That is all it is.( Show ‘em who’s boss!)
Marines can smell a fascist socialist from a mile away.
There are certain members of the administration who would not be.
IIRC, even that bastard FDR, and even Harry T rode back and forth across the Atlantic in a US Battleship; I never read one word about our sailors having to disarm. Harry even ate with the troops in ship’s mess.
Pussy Obama and his sychophants have to have guards for the guards, and then some. Chickenshits.
That’s what I said, too.
The government elites don't even trust those in their own military.
The next step is a Praetorian Guard to protect the administration from it's own troops. I'm sure the irony and insult of disarming the Marine's whose motto is Semper Fidelis will escape these leftist morons.
What Panetta desperately needs to remember is that Semper Fidelis is to the Constitution.
That speaks volumes.
Hitlers body guard
Reminds me of what the government wants all of us to do — disarm.
I suspect that this action by this official reflects his knowledge of the hatred people feel towards the trash in government. In a Republic those who govern do so by having the love and respect of the governed. The people currently in office do not have the love and respect of the governed. All they have is our contempt!
This was certainly a very insulting and demeaning order.
This thread obviously attracts a lot of our veteran heroes. Ladies and gentlemen, from the brother of a Vietnam vet who was KIA in 1968, I salute you, honor your service, your uniforms and our flag. From a grateful nation, thank you for your service.
May I please ask a question here; given the treason that this _resident has wreaked upon this great country of ours as well as his obvious disdain for all things military, what are the chances if as the CIC gives the order for our active duty servicemen/women to openly attack American citizens on US soil, that they will follow his orders?
It’s been done before..............
I can't imagine anyone on America's side feeling unsafe around an armed United States Marine.
Unhappy? Maybe, but not unsafe.
In the Pacific Islands during the 2nd World War after supposedly securing an Island, the troops turned in their ammunition. I don’t know which Island it was, but a lot of troops got slaughterd one night because of this policy. I stood center witness to this same stupidity in Korea, during the Panmunjom talks when an American Leuitenant told a Master Sgt. and a Sgt. 1st class and me that we had to turn in our ammunition, (at the time we were in the “Iron Triangle”), inside North Korea. As Sgt. 1st Class Oral D Schultz removed the pin from a grenade he had taken off of his field jacket, stuck his arm straight out at the Lt. saying “I’ll see you in hell Lt.” and at the very same time Master Sgt. Bagoonavitch, with his finger on the trigger, slid the oily nylon strap accross his shoulder point the barrell at the Lt. and saying “you can have these one at a time Lt.”. Fortunatley I did not have to disobey an order, as the Lt. turned and left, but I would have. I was armed with a loaded Mod. 11 .45. This was in the 72nd Tank Batt., 2nd Inf. Div. close to Pork Chop and Old Baldy, Mamma San, Pappa San and Artillery Hill in late July 1953. Sgt. Schultz replaced the pin in the grenade and Sgt. Bagoonavitch brought his “Grease Gun” back to it’s proper position. Not another word was said and no repercussions. To this day I believe the U.S. or U.N. negogotiating team at Panmujom was comprimised.
I'm quite confident that our military (it's ours, definitely not Obama's) will follow all lawful orders. I'm even more confident that service members think through any order that comes from the occupant of our White House before choosing to follow such orders. I trust the USMC and the rest of our military completely to follow their oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" unlike all democrats and most of the republicans in politics.
Can you say Ft. Hood II?
Hussien is just pushing things. The more he pushes and we comply the more he can push the next time. Why take and inch when the sheeple give him a mile?
If I were in Afghanistan, the people around me I WOULDN’T want disarmed would be the US Marines.
Thank you sir, for this very endearing story.
And they guy on the left is a Lieutenant General.
What's different now? http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/July-5-2009/July-5-2009/2070/10/
Good Grief...they never left.
I was in 1-72nd in the early ‘90s...and it was still in Korea.
I had no idea it was part of the original war.
“If as the CIC gives the order for our active duty servicemen/women to openly attack American citizens on US soil, that they will follow his orders?”
I believe this was the most recent case http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
Both Chief of Staff of the Army, GEN Douglas MacArthur and GEN George S. Patton were involved; although Patton was only a Major at the time.
Failure to launch, sort of like the underwear bomber. Outfit him with a new vest and stake him out in an open field.
“The government elites don’t even trust those in their own military.”
Nor should they.
“Both Chief of Staff of the Army, GEN Douglas MacArthur and GEN George S. Patton were involved; although Patton was only a Major at the time.”
Ike was also present—check it out...
I think that was exactly Panetta's point.
Well, if push came to shove, Marines actually don’t need guns or knives.
You're probably already aware that Major General Smedley D. Butler (”Old Gimlet Eye”) was also involved on the side of the “Bonus Marchers.” If you haven't read “Maverick Marine,” it's an interesting account of his life and career in the Marine Corps as well as his years as an activist after he retired.
Michael Savage now talking about this on his show .
Push comes to shove? See 36. It’s not the same USMC. I weep to say.
“what are the chances if as the CIC gives the order for our active duty servicemen/women to openly attack American citizens on US soil, that they will follow his orders?”
There is this group to counter such an action:
That pic is not representative of most Marines. It is a carefully crafted ploy.
An unarmed Marine is still a leathal weapon. -Wb
Well, Panetta is after all a HUGE COMMUNIST, and the troops might get confused about which side he’s on.
Leon Panettas Communist Ties
Written By : Dave Blount
Barack Hussein Obama, protégé of Frank Marshall Davis and Bill Ayers, isnt the only member of the current misadministration with communist ties. Look what Accuracy in Media has learned about current CIA director and Secretary of Defense nominee Leon Panetta:
The evidence shows that Panetta had a close and personal relationship with a member of the Communist Party by the name of Hugh DeLacy, whose record included meeting with communist espionage agents.
Still more disturbing is the evidence they did not find:
[W]e find no evidence that the Panetta-DeLacy relationship was ever examined by the FBI or the Senate when Panetta was being considered and confirmed for the post of CIA Director. The major media have been even more derelict, content to cover the Panetta hearings for Secretary of Defense in a cursory manner and then turn their attention back to something that is easier and more fun to cover and which is sure to attract interest [Anthony] Weiner.
Nestled in a political establishment that is friendly toward our communist enemies and shrieks McCarthyism!!! at anyone who isnt, Panetta didnt have to try very hard to keep the relationship from going public.
Back in 1983 he inserted a tribute into the Congressional Record, recognizing DeLacy and his wife Dorothy, another communist, for their commitment to social justice and resisting the dark forces of McCarthyism. The latter strongly indicates that Panetta was aware of their involvement in the communist cause and that not only did it not matter to him, it was evidence of their courage and bravery.
Trevor Loudon writes, The couple, Hugh DeLacy and his wife Dorothy Baskin DeLacy, both had long histories with the Communist Party USA and were very active in the Santa Cruz progressive movement that had helped nurture Congressman Panettas career. Phrases like social justice and dark forces of McCarthyism rolled from Rep. Panettas pen, in a piece that would not have been out of place in the Communist Partys Peoples Daily World.
He adds, The DeLacys were not merely Panettas constituentsthey were close personal friends. Hugh DeLacy was also a longtime correspondent, with whom Panetta regularly discussed defense and foreign policy issues.
These revelations fit smoothly with Panettas history.
In addition to this evidence, we have congressional hearings, information about a communist cell active in Santa Cruz, and Panettas own record as a member of Congress, where he fought during the 1980s to protect communist advances in such countries as Nicaragua and Grenada and worked feverishly to undermine President Reagans anti-communist foreign policy and military defense build-up. Incidentally, back then Panetta was a foe of CIA covert action to protect Americas vital interests, which makes Obamas selection of him as CIA director even more interesting.
According to veteran journalist Wes Vernon,
DeLacy was not only a prominent member of the Communist Party USA, but also a personal contact of identified Soviet spies Solomon Adler and Frank Coe and accused spy John Stewart Service.
In short, we have still more evidence that Americas worst enemies have taken the helm. The full effects of what they are doing to our country wont become evident until after the next election.