Skip to comments.Why did Santorum's totals in MS and AL differ from the last polls which showed him in 3rd place?
Posted on 03/14/2012 4:30:33 PM PDT by mitchell001
Did open voting which allows Democrats and Independents to vote in the GOP primary account for difference in Santorum's victory totals in MS and AL over the last polls which showed him in 3rd place? In other words, the MS and AL polls only polled likely GOP voters and the real voter population included Democrats and Independents. Also, did the Democrats sway the GOP primary results? Did Santorum robo call Democrats to vote for him?
You are so green with envy which is a sin by the way. President Santorum will be the first social conservative that we have. Since we never had one before, it could be the best thing this country could ever have. We need to get back to being a moral country and the only one to do this is a President Santorum. God Bless Rick Santorum and his incredible family.
Yep, and Santorum called them out. Trust me, NEWT has a plan and I trust NEWT to know how to handle all this.
Newt might have the greatest plans on Earth. The only thing he needs are votes. That is his problem. He can’t get people to vote for him in state after state. If he wants to be credible, he needs to change this. I tried to tell this to people before AL and MS but I was blasted saying I didn’t know anything. Well I am here again saying the same thing before PR and IL. Any changes for Newt????
We have a difference of opinion I can see, but there is no way I get the government I deserve, maybe you do.
Not meaning to start an argument just only wanting to get your feeling on mandates.
I personal feel I have more government than I deserve or want. I personally would prefer more individual freedom and less mandates from the gov’t, elites, organizations, etc.
Anyway not trying to be argumentive. Take care and have a nice evening.
“More likely the polls and even exit polls were simply incorrect and under representing Ricks support. Santorum is made fun of in the media as a wacky, Catholic fundamentalist nut ...”
I think this is correct. Many of his supporters are not contentious, combative people, so they skipped the pre-vote drama. I saw a lot of grass roots support for both Santorum and Gingrich on election day proper in the Jackson area. There was a little support for Paul about 2 months ago, and whoever supported Bishop Willard was too ashamed to show it at any stage.
“No #ing way? These two states were open?”
I can’t speak for Alabama but Mississippi most certainly is. I saw one (1) person vote in the Democrat primary in the time I was at the poll, an older black lady. I saw several young black men vote in the Republican primary. I suppose they are Thomas Sowell or Alan Keyes fans . . .
I voted for Newt in GA. One thing I STILL like about Santorum, and in spite of his “warts...but they ALL have some...is his grassroots campaign strategy. This is the old way. People went door to door, or county to county, talked to people, shook hands, held babies, took pictures, etc. It lets the community know that the candidates see each voter as an individual, not taking anything for granted. Romney acts as if he is owed the nomination. Newt is Newt, but when he’s on, he’s awesome. But, I seriously think that he hurt himself when he attacked Romney and was too stubborn to see that the only person he was hurting was himself. That is Newt’s problem. He is stubborn. I agree with Michele Malkin and David Limbaugh, that although Rick Santorum is not my perfect candidate, he is the best man standing and still conservative. I’d love to see Newt pull this out, and I do hope, as I posted the other day, that both Santorum and Newt stay in, taking enough voted away from Romney to have a brokered convention. I personally would love to see Palin nominated to run against Obama. She is more than capable of taking him on and turning him into mincemeat. Why do you think he (Obama) has already started attacking her? He surely thinks it is possible.
Answers: No. No. No. No.
Polling firms don’t eliminate people in the “wrong” party when they poll. They ask if the person is planning to vote in the primary, and if so, they count their pick.
For your conspiracy to be rational, the conspirists, who according to the conspiracy WANT to make it look like Santorum has support, would have had to have LIED to pollsters about voting in the primary, thus suppressing Santorum’s poll numbers, and then showed up to vote to make him win.
If they were trying to help Santorum, they would have told pollsters they were voting for Santorum.
I doubt that many democrats are motivated enough to show up to vote just to mess up our primary. After all, REPUBLICANS are motivated enough to show up to vote.
I don’t know which state you were in. And I’m trying to figure out how you knew which names were democrat, and which were republican.
If they were in different lists, doesn’t that mean they were voting in the democrat primary, not the republican primary?
Or are you claiming that in your state, democrats show up, sign in to a “democrat” voting list, and then vote in the republican primary?
In my state, there’s one list of voters, and if there are two primaries, you tell them which primary, and THAT is the list they put you on, democrat or republican.
Right Michigan dissected and picked apart exit poll claims about crossovers in Michigan.
It may have been the result of low turnout in the suburban counties where Romney needed to roll-up large raw vote totals to overcome his weakness in the rural counties.
What proof was there of dems were misbehaving and voting to stop Gingrich or Romney for that matter? It's not hard to find where the dems are in Mississippi and Alabama. One look at vote totals and counties will tell you if there was mischief.
Romney people and CNN were spreading that same BS about dems voting in Michigan for Santorum. It did not happen.
The reason I ask which state is, in Alabama 205,000 people voted in the Democratic primary. So there would be quite a few names on a “democrat” list for the democrat primary in any particular precinct.
Mississippi has an open Senate seat, and there are primaries on both sides, so about 100,000 democrats showed up for that race. Al Gore won that primary.
There is always a reason why Gingrich didn’t win, and it’s never that he can’t get enough people to vote for him.
Mississippi had a contested Democrat senate primary. Why would democrats show up and vote in the republican side, when they had an active contest on their side?
I saw only one person vote in the Democrat primary. Why I do not know. Probably they find it as hard to get excited about some of their down ticket contests as I do about ours.
Now, I was only there for about 15 minutes, but in that time 9 people voted. 2 were white, 7 were black, and 8 voted in the Republican primary.
I trust that NEWT has his plan that will TWART Mittens, even if NEWT does not win in the long run. When it is all over at the convention we will have Newt or Santorum. That is a win for us no matter which side you are on.
Remember Newt as Speaker knew better than anyone how to get what he wanted, he did it and made Clinton look good. Newt knows what he's doing now. His mind is brilliant. I'm with NEWT.
100,000 people voted in the Democratic Senate Primary.
Maybe you didn’t see anybody vote, but 100,000 of them did.
The Government I/we deserve was to mean the Politicians. With so much voter fraud, no I.D's, crossover voters, etc. That just is not fair to us. No, we do not get the government we deserve, we deserve better than what the liberals and socialist are giving us, by illegally voting ins our primaries..
Who is big enough to make then stop? Close the primaries and stop all caucuses. Maybe most of us are just to honest to think of tinkering in their elections.., that's how we lose.
Santorum’s grassroots efforts are growing in numbers everyday. The excitement is spreading. It works every time. When the average American gets behind the candidate who is most like themselves the formula works.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Sorry that what I saw is not consistent with what you imagine in your skull.
To reiterate - perhaps you should read it slowly this time - I was at the polls for 15 minutes. In that time I saw one (1) person vote in the Democratic primary. In that time I saw eight others vote in the Republican primary. For what it is worth, I think that crossovers were voting for Bishop Willard, if that will ease your mind so that you do not cry about it.
Because you can’t trust polls, duhh...
Sorry that I didn't make the facts clear enough for you.
As you can see, 100,000 Democratic votes.Name Party Vote Percent Gore, Albert Dem 56,680 57% Weiner, Roger Dem 24,075 24% Oatis, Will Dem 19,174 19% 99,829 100%
Don't you feel just a little stupid now, claiming I made that up?
Wouldn't it have been smarter for you to do at least a few minutes of web search before making a fool of yourself?
Probably a distant relative.