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Howard Dean Thinks Romney Could Carry Fewer States Than Goldwater
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Posted on 03/14/2012 9:01:30 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Could Howard Dean be the worst political prognosticator ever? Could a former DNC Chairman really be this clueless about the electoral map? Apparently.

On MSNBC's Ed Show this evening, Dean claimed it was possible that in a match-up against Barack Obama, Mitt Romney might win fewer than the six states Barry Goldwater carried in 1964. Seriously, Dr. Dean? You see President Barack Obama carrying, oh, I don't know, Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, Nebraska and Idaho--all states Goldwater lost--plus some others Goldwater won. Utah, maybe?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012presidential; alsoran; barrygoldwater; doctordean; howarddean; kenyanbornmuzzie; loser; mittromney; newtgingrich; ricksantorum; rino; yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

1 posted on 03/14/2012 9:01:36 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Whatever you think of Romney, Dean is out of his mind ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 03/14/2012 9:06:59 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sounds like the good doctor has been dipping into his own prescription bag. Romney is not my choice for nominee, and I think he is a weak candidate, but he’s at least 50/50 to beat Obama come the fall.* Goldwater like losses? No way in bleep. Obama may win enough swing states to prevail, but the final EV numbers will look a heck of a lot more like 2004 than 1964.

*Assuming he picks a decent running mate and mounts a better-than-mccain2008-campaign.


3 posted on 03/14/2012 9:15:37 PM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Dean is right.


4 posted on 03/14/2012 9:15:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Any diagnosis by Dr. Dean requires a second opinion.


5 posted on 03/14/2012 9:16:29 PM PDT by JPG (Hold on tight; rough road ahead.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I think Mitts is no better than 50/50 to beat Herr Leader, but I seriously doubt the accuracy of Dean's prediction.

I will say this, if Romney is our candidate, no matter who wins we are seriously screwed. A little less with Mitts, but that doesn't make me feel any better.

6 posted on 03/14/2012 9:23:39 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: dfwgator

“Dean is right”

In this instance, yes it is.


7 posted on 03/14/2012 9:30:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I think we ought to listen to Alinsky." - Governor G. Romney, father of Bishop Willard M. Romney.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
LOL! Howard can still think?

And I thought his brain flew out through his nose when he screamed during his campaign . . . .for. . .what was that office he ran for? I forget! and I wish I could completely forget as in never hearing from him again.

vaudine

8 posted on 03/14/2012 9:43:59 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Colors are wrong.


9 posted on 03/14/2012 9:56:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Howard Dean?

Ask G. Gordon Liddy about Dean.

10 posted on 03/14/2012 10:00:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

After thinking about it, Wrong Dean.

Both of them are Dem Idiots though.


11 posted on 03/14/2012 10:02:35 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Howard Dean's PSYCHIC Network.

"Mister Irrelevant" has spoken.

12 posted on 03/14/2012 10:06:40 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: DemforBush
Sounds like the good doctor has been dipping into his own prescription bag. Romney is not my choice for nominee, and I think he is a weak candidate, but he’s at least 50/50 to beat Obama come the fall.* Goldwater like losses? No way in bleep. Obama may win enough swing states to prevail, but the final EV numbers will look a heck of a lot more like 2004 than 1964.

Not a chance, Romney would lose WORSE than Goldwater because of his Progressive Liberal record as Governor.

Obama and his minions in the MSM will utterly destroy Romney if he is the nominee. Once they start using his record, as follows, he's dead meat and will get slaughtered:


1. Supported Gay Adoption as Governor.
2. Implemented and Supported Gay Marriage as Governor
3. Supported Abortion as Governor
4. Supported the Brady Bill
5. Implemented an "Assault" Weapons Ban at the state-level AFTER the Federal AWB was allowed to elapse.
6. Believes in Global Warming.
7. Supported a state-level Cap-N-Trade system as Governor.
8. Supported TARP.
9. Supported Amnesty for Illegal Aliens (Pathway to Citizenship).
10. Implemented a SOCIALISTIC HealthCare Insurance model in MA that included $50 Abortions and an Individual Mandate.

13 posted on 03/14/2012 10:09:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
Romney is the Perfect Storm of a Rino candidate. The Socialists on the left are drooling that he is the nominee.
14 posted on 03/14/2012 10:21:26 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mad man Dean speaks!


15 posted on 03/14/2012 10:31:03 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I thought Howie was doing pirate movies these days. AAAARRRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!!


16 posted on 03/14/2012 10:31:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (“The first lesson you learn as a pollster is that people are stupid." - Dem pollster, Tom Jensen)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If Romney obtains the Pubbie nom I will not vote for him. It will be better for America to suffer more under Obama than let an Obama wannabe run the country into the ground further under the Pubbie banner. Let the Dems take the hit again.

If America feels that it needs to suffer further under the “fruits” of collectivism let them vote the Bum back in for a second term.


17 posted on 03/15/2012 12:01:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Dean Reloaded
(this vid never gets old.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwto2s_FbnI


18 posted on 03/15/2012 12:03:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Iron Munro

I know it is fun to make fun of Dr. Dean. I would caution some though. Remember he was put in charge of the DNC alter Kerry’s loss. He was called an idiot for his 50 state strategy here and on the left too. He straightened out the DNC finances and ramped up fundraising. Dems kicked our asses in 06 and 08. Make fun all you want but know thy enemy.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 12:14:25 AM PDT by chopperjc
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

While I agree that if Romney is the nominee, it`ll very likely be an easy, comfortable win for 0bama, but Mitt will at least win 18-20 states. It won`t be a Johnson-Goldwater type of blowout.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 1:55:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Interesting that since that electoral map was formed in `64, Minnesota has gone GOP only once (1972). Even the Peoples Republics of HI, MA and VT have more recency as “red” states.


21 posted on 03/15/2012 2:03:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Dean may be right.

About 70% of Primary voters are voting against Romney, and many of his current primary voters in this race voted for Obama in 2008 against Palin.

Not since Abe Lincoln's election in 1860, with major parties split six or eight ways from Sunday, has the electoral situation so much favored a third-party win.

Romney and Obama would be competing for many of the same voters -- liberal Republicans and liberal Democrats -- totaling only half of the voters in a general election.

I would prefer an Open Convention with a conservative Republican to run against Obama. Barring that, our best chance to save mankind is a direct hit from that asteroid resulting in a near ELE.

22 posted on 03/15/2012 2:19:49 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Romney is Dole with better hair. We have a real chance with a president who has approval ratings at 40% or less, but we are going to blow it.

Obama has a much larger solid base of people who will vote for him even if the country is aflame, no matter what.

There are large portions of our base who will refuse to vote for Romney.

I can’t believe it. I think Romney will be the candidate. We have allowed the MSM to pick our candidate for us AGAIN.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 3:35:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Personally, I’m finding these projections for 2012 have become a big puzzle.

They’re all over the board, with some saying Obama’s toast and others saying he’s a shoo-in.

It can’t be both, and the thought of voters sticking with Obama after the past three moronic years is unspeakably depressing.

Can Americans really be this stupid?


24 posted on 03/15/2012 4:22:25 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: dfwgator

Even tho I actually am dreading the idea of a Romney nomination, if he is the nominee, he will carry more states than Goldwater in ‘64. We’ve become far more set politically/geographically.

Also, Obama doesn’t have the post-JFK assassination sympathy/ shock/vote going for him. At the time Goldwater was looked at as an extremist by a huge part of the population; his views today would be considered mainstream conservative; Romney is considerably more oderate-liberal (wishy-washy) than Goldwater (to put it mildly).


25 posted on 03/15/2012 9:05:14 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rlmorel
We have allowed the MSM to pick our candidate for us AGAIN.

Looks more to me that the GOP elitists and the MSM worked together (in a manner of speaking) to choose our candidate.

This whole Pubbie primary process smells like week old diapers to me.

26 posted on 03/15/2012 3:26:56 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: Jack Hammer
Can Americans really be this stupid?

Yes, they can, they are, and they will be again.

Every day that I talk to my BIL, his idiot wife and his New Deal uncle I am more convinced than ever that we are totally screwed.

You know that alcoholics can rationalize anything to support their drinking. Well, liberals make them look like amateurs.

27 posted on 03/15/2012 3:31:14 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
You know that alcoholics can rationalize anything to support their drinking. Well, liberals make them look like amateurs.

The other day a reporter interviewed a lady that is really having a hard time. Her husband lost his good job and the job he has now pays little more than minimum wage, her job has really cut her hours; their home was forclosed on and one of their vehicles was reposessed. The woman was telling the reporter they could barely afford fuel to get to work and groceries to feed the family. All this and when the reporter asked her who she planned to vote for she said Obama because all this is not his fault and he is doing the best he can.

28 posted on 03/15/2012 3:44:50 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Good plan. Give Obama a chance to pack the federal courts for decades...


29 posted on 03/17/2012 6:25:10 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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