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Santorum Tells Puerto Ricans to Adopt English for Statehood
townhall ^ | 3/15/12 | Kevin Glass

Posted on 03/15/2012 7:52:12 AM PDT by Skeez

Campaigning in Puerto Rico today, Rick Santorum said that Puerto Ricans needed to adopt English as their official language if they wanted to make a serious push for U.S. statehood. Santorum is in Puerto Rico making his pitch for the GOP's primary on Sunday.

"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said. "And that is that English has to be the principal language. There are other states with more than one language such as Hawaii but to be a state of the United States, English has to be the principal language."Reuters goes on to report that neither the U.S. Constitution nor any federal law requires that a state speak English. Some states have established English as an official language anyway. To be charitable to Santorum, he did say that English should be the "principal" language, not something to be legally required. Puerto Ricans typically learn English in high school, but census data shows only about 30% of Puerto Ricans rate their ability to speak English "very well."

Santorum's presence in Puerto Rico may seem odd - governor Luis Fortuno has endorsed his rival Mitt Romney, and the candidate perceived as a moderate has won massive portions of the electorate in the past few years - John McCain, Bob Dole and George H.W. Bush all won massive majorities there.

The people of Puerto Rico go to the polls on Sunday to vote in their GOP primary. Puerto Rico awards a small number of delegates - twenty-three - but more than some small states like Delaware.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: kenyanbornmuzzie; kevinglass; mittromney; newtbotsforromney; newtgingrich; puertorico; ricksantorum; santorum
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1 posted on 03/15/2012 7:52:18 AM PDT by Skeez
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To: Skeez

Risk’s minders should have advised him against this
ill-concieved statement. PR is Spanish speaking and
that isn’t about to change for anyone.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 7:57:07 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Skeez
If I'm not mistaken Puerto Rico has had referendums on statehood before and a majority didn't want it. So with apologies to Rick, it's not like they are busting down the door demanding statehood even without an English language mandate.
3 posted on 03/15/2012 7:59:05 AM PDT by apillar
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To: RitchieAprile
"Like any other state, there has to be compliance with this and any other federal law," Santorum said.

Last I checked speaking English was not a federal law

4 posted on 03/15/2012 7:59:39 AM PDT by Skeez (O)
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To: apillar
If I'm not mistaken Puerto Rico has had referendums on statehood before and a majority didn't want it.

The love the Status Quo, let's see what happens when the only two choices are Statehood or Independence.

5 posted on 03/15/2012 8:00:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: RitchieAprile

I agree, that was a dumb thing to say, and it only goes to show he knows nothing about the place.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 8:01:56 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: RitchieAprile

I agree, that was a dumb thing to say, and it only goes to show he knows nothing about the place.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 8:02:02 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Skeez

Legalisms aside, do people disagree with the content of what Santorum said? Should we ever admit a state to the union in which English is not the primary and/or official language???


8 posted on 03/15/2012 8:02:05 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Skeez

Stuff like this just grinds my gears. Hey Santorum.... SHUT UP! They don’t want to be a state. WE don’t want them to be a state. Shut your pie hole about stuff you clearly no nothing about. Geez. Is this guy REALLY the best we can do?


9 posted on 03/15/2012 8:02:05 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Skeez

No kidding! What a flipping idiot!


10 posted on 03/15/2012 8:02:49 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: bigdaddy45

Arrrgggg.... he got me so pissed i typed “no” instead of “know”. So I read further. Where in the constitution does it say anything about English speaking being mandatory? (It should, but it doesn’t). He’s embarrassing himself.


11 posted on 03/15/2012 8:05:00 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Skeez

I’m confused... was this an issue before he talked about it?

Why? Isn’t there a bad economy he could be discussing?

Or high gasoline prices?

I like Rick, but I think he could use 8 years under Gingrich to grow up a little more. He sounds not “ripe” enough yet for the big job

and 16 years of Gingrich/Santorum would be good


12 posted on 03/15/2012 8:06:51 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: RitchieAprile

New Mexico was able to transition to mostly-English speaking.

It’s NOT impossible.

Just have PR do English in the elementary schools.


13 posted on 03/15/2012 8:09:22 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Congratulations Rick. You just alienated the Hispanic vote. Nice going.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:38 AM PDT by Doors
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To: Mr. K

Good point. His talking about statehood for P.R. and the status of English there, is similar to George Steph. introducing birth control into a presidential debate. Some things just don’t have to be discussed in presidential campaigns.


15 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No, we should not admit any state where the official language is not English. That’ll never happen in PR, so problem solved. I don’t see why we should care if PR becomes a state anyhow.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:57 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: fishtank
"Just have PR do English in the elementary schools."

We have a big enough challenge keeping English in our OWN schools (lookin' at you, California).

17 posted on 03/15/2012 8:12:55 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Skeez
And this is the guy the Bible-belters want for the GOP Nomination instead of Newt.

We are doomed.

TS

18 posted on 03/15/2012 8:12:59 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Skeez; rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; ...
Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 8:16:29 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: fishtank

The world was very different in the 19th century, when New Mexico became part of the U.S. after the Mexican War. Yes, they transitioned to English there. But it may not be so easy to do transitions like that in our politically correct world today.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 8:16:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: The Shrew
I imagine things will change for Santo once he leaves the Bible Belt.

A new national Fox poll has Romney at 38%, and both Newt and Santo tied at around 27%.

Santo also has a tendency to get arrogant and flippant after he scores a lucky hit, which prompts him to spew some incredibly stupid rhetoric. (Puerto Rico)

Santo will be vetted accordingly in the remaining non-Bible states.

21 posted on 03/15/2012 8:19:46 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: RitchieAprile

We can revisit statehood for Puerto Rico in another generation. By then, the way things are going, we will all be speaking Spanish anyway so it wouldn’t make sense to have an English requirement./s


22 posted on 03/15/2012 8:20:05 AM PDT by FerociousRabbit
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

23 posted on 03/15/2012 8:23:35 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Doors

I’m trying to understand....are people upset here with Rick because they disagree with what they said, or just because they think what he said will lose him votes?


24 posted on 03/15/2012 8:26:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Skeez; mickie; flaglady47; oswegodeee
Sheesh! GET THE HOOK. GET THIS GUY OUT OF THERE!

Statehood for Pu-wer-toe Reeee-co is what the libs, dims, socialists and nanny-staters want more than anything.....a whole new 58th state of Democrat Party electoral votes ASAP.

A whole new slew of welfare cases. A new state dependent on tourism alone....and no one in the mainland with money to travel.

How's Hawaii workin' out for ya???? Did you know Hawaii is the most Democrat entity of all the states in the US of A along with the non-voting District of Columbia....????

Santorum is sticking his social-worker lady snoot into too many areas where he shouldn't....and any consideration of him by conservatives has fast become an untenable position. He's a smooth talker...but watch where he goes, what he wants to do and what he subtly endorses without saying anything.

Getting all excited about the language issue in Puerto Rico is really missing the forest for the trees.

Leni

25 posted on 03/15/2012 8:29:27 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Funny how the Newt people here are spinning off their axis with Santorum making this statement, yet the ex candidate Newton was pushing for English as the official language when he was running for Pres. I can’t wait for their strained logic on how the two are different.

BTW, PA has on of the largest populations of Puerto Ricans in the US. Rick is familiar with them and their issues.

GO RICK!!!


26 posted on 03/15/2012 8:32:19 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: dfwgator

Geez, where to start. 1) Do YOU want PR to be a state? I sure don’t. They would absorb way more tax dollars than they would contribute. Also, two more guaranteed Democrat senators. So why is he laying out a roadmap? 2) He shows how stupid he is when he says they should follow all “legal requirements for English”. There ARE no legal requirements for English. (Again, IMHO, there SHOULD be, but there aren’t).

Santorum, as a two-term incumbent Senator, lost by 18 points in his bid for a third term. 18 points!!!! Wrap your head around that. It was the biggest loss by an incumbent senator in 26 years. And THIS guy is the best we can do? Its downright depressing.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 8:34:38 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Doors
Congratulations Rick. You just alienated the Hispanic vote. Nice going.

You may be right. Newt Gingrich was pushing for English as the official language and his campaign imploded. Maybe there is a correlation there.

28 posted on 03/15/2012 8:35:08 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Yeah, I’m sure he was REAL familiar with what the people of PA wanted. Especially when they kicked his tail to the curb, 59% to 41%. You’re really inspiring confidence.


29 posted on 03/15/2012 8:38:03 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
Is this guy REALLY the best we can do?

Don't worry. His chances of getting the nomination are slim indeed.

30 posted on 03/15/2012 8:38:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (If my candidate doesn't win the nomination I'm going to kick my feet, cry like a baby, and stay home)
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To: Jeff Chandler

So does that mean ROMNEY is the best we can do? I’ve never really understood why people drink. I’m starting to though.


31 posted on 03/15/2012 8:39:41 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Then it must really upset you that this loser knocked the “Smartest Man Around” out of this Primary.


32 posted on 03/15/2012 8:42:50 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Why not, we’ve done it before - Louisiana was majority French speaking in 1812 when they were admitted as a state, and several of their constitutions established the state as being bilingual. Same thing with California in 1849 - Spanish was established in the constitution as being one of the two languages in the state, and the majority of the population spoke it. New Mexico was admitted as a state in 1912 - at that time, 50% of the population spoke Spanish as their primary language, and the state constitution established that state as bilingual. In Pennsylvania, even up into the early 1800s, as much as 40% of the populace spoke German, though admittedly German was not written into the state constitution. And the French-speaking provinces of Canada were invited to join as state during the early years of our nation - that they could join was in fact written into the the Articles of Confederation.

English is taught in schools in Puerto Rico, and is one of two official languages in the constitution of the commonwealth. And while the majority of Puerto Ricans speak spanish as their primary language, roughly half are also fluent in english.

Language issues with illegal immigrants in border states is something I would consider to be a separate issue. I doubt any of us here would question the loyalty of Puerto Rico to the United States - the same cannot be said of illegal immigrants.


33 posted on 03/15/2012 8:52:07 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: Lazlo in PA

Democrat crossovers can take credit for that.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 8:53:43 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Skeez

What the hell is wrong with this guy? To play in the National leagues, you’ve GOT to know not only WHAT to say, but what NOT to say. This guy is not ready, I’m sorry. As much as I might like him as a conservative, he needs some serious polishing, of not downright sanding with 220 grit.


35 posted on 03/15/2012 8:55:22 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: dfwgator
“Are people upset here with Rick because they disagree with what they said, or just because they think what he said will lose him votes?”
_______________

Speaking for myself only; I think it was an irrelevant and stupid argument that Rick somehow allowed himself to get led into ...sort of like Rick's personal views on contraception. He just shouldn't go there!!!

Rick should talk about the economy, the price of gas, balance of trade, monetizing the debt, Iran, ...the list goes on and on; but it doesn't (and shouldn't ever) include discussing why a traditionally Hispanic island's inhabitants should learn to speak English ...which most of them already do! ...plus they also have a relatively Conservative Republican Governor; Luis Fortuno.

36 posted on 03/15/2012 8:56:04 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: MinuteGal
All due respect as I have considered you a Freeper friend...

..but your post is so over the top insulting to the candidate I whole heartedly support.

Why can't you... 'other than Rick'... supporters post civil discourse without resorting to attacking the candidate with ridicule

Santorum is sticking his social-worker lady snoot into too many areas where he shouldn't...and any consideration of him by conservatives has fast become an untenable position
Social worker lady snoot??????...sheesh

I know the rhetoric from some at Free Republic and MSM, even FOX will get louder and more egregious...

..but I certainly didn't expect a gracious lady like you to make fun of him on this forum.

Fwiw, I have never made fun of Newt on this forum.

What drives you all to make fun of Rick..?...what can you and others possibly gain from derisive and divisive tactics?

37 posted on 03/15/2012 8:57:33 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: MinuteGal
All due respect as I have considered you a Freeper friend...

..but your post is so over the top insulting to the candidate I whole heartedly support.

Why can't you... 'other than Rick'... supporters post civil discourse without resorting to attacking the candidate with ridicule

Santorum is sticking his social-worker lady snoot into too many areas where he shouldn't...and any consideration of him by conservatives has fast become an untenable position
Social worker lady snoot??????...sheesh

I know the rhetoric from some at Free Republic and MSM, even FOX will get louder and more egregious...

..but I certainly didn't expect a gracious lady like you to make fun of him on this forum.

Fwiw, I have never made fun of Newt on this forum.

What drives you all to make fun of Rick..?...what can you and others possibly gain from derisive and divisive tactics?

38 posted on 03/15/2012 8:57:43 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: apillar

The reason they don’t want statehood is that they would then be subjected to US Income Taxes. As it is now, they get all the benefits, except for voting in national elections. To my mind, I don’t want two Puerto Rican Senators, or their Congressman.


39 posted on 03/15/2012 8:58:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bigdaddy45
So does that mean ROMNEY is the best we can do?

Well, given the way the primaries are set up and the work done on the ground by the campaigns, it increasingly looks as if he will be the nominee. The best we can do? That's irrelevant.

40 posted on 03/15/2012 9:02:16 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (If my candidate doesn't win the nomination I'm going to kick my feet, cry like a baby, and stay home)
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To: Guenevere
Why can't you... 'other than Rick'... supporters post civil discourse without resorting to attacking the candidate with ridicule

LOL. There're some here who have completely lost it.

I don't know how anyone else can take them seriously on ANY issue after their performance during this primary season.

41 posted on 03/15/2012 9:04:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Lazlo in PA

No, it upsets me that I have to choose between a guy who developed the model for Obamacare in Massachusetts, a guy who lost his own state by 18% and clearly doesn’t understand a few of our most basic laws, and a guy who’s on wife #3 and bounces around like a yo-yo, contradicting himself on a nearly daily basis. Oh, and Ron Paul. THATS what upsets me.


42 posted on 03/15/2012 9:04:30 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

BWAHAHAHAHA. Still carrying Milt Romneys water on this discredited line of BS. If you can understand numbers, take a look at the actual results and see exactly who was the one benefiting from Rat sabotage. It wasn’t Rick.

http://www.republicanmichigander.blogspot.com/2012/03/did-100000-democrats-actually-cross.html

I am sure you will keep selling this spin though because you are a one note “I Hate Rick, I love Romney” type of poster.


43 posted on 03/15/2012 9:05:03 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Guenevere

I know I sound like a broken record.... but as a two term incumbent Senator, in 2006 Santorum lost by nearly a 3:2 margin to Casey. That is a butt-kicking of epic proportions. The worst loss by an incumbent Senator in 26 years. And you honestly believe he has a prayer in a National election?


44 posted on 03/15/2012 9:09:32 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: Lazlo in PA

Taking cheap personal attacks at people is all you have to go on. So I won’t reply to you for any reason, from here on out. Have a great year.


45 posted on 03/15/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I wish more Christian Conservatives could listen to the words of our Savior:

Matthew: 16:1 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves." ESV

We are not supposed to be "of" the world but we are supposed to understand the world as it is. I thought Rev. Mike Huckabee epitomized the lobotomized Christian politician. Smarmy, Elmer Gantry-ish, fast-talking, concern-troll that took the caricature of Christians to an appallingly bad level to get votes and gull the people.

Now we have the Santorum voters who are bound and determined to punish Gingrich for his past infidelities and maintain the purity of their vote. Bah Humbug.

TS

46 posted on 03/15/2012 9:13:59 AM PDT by The Shrew (www.wintersoldier.com; www.tstrs.com; The Truth Shall Set You Free!)
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Rick should talk about the economy, the price of gas, balance of trade, monetizing the debt, Iran, ...the list goes on and on; but it doesn't (and shouldn't ever) include discussing why a traditionally Hispanic island's inhabitants should learn to speak English

What should Rick do if asked questions that do not concern the economy, price of gas, etc. ignore them? Plead the 5th?

If you accept that a candidate should honestly attempt to answer questions put to him, how should he have dealt with what surely was a question apparently concerning many in PR, which is where he was campaigning?

There're are some poster here who would criticise Santorum for standing during the national anthem, but as another poster asked, what really was wrong with the answer he gave here?

47 posted on 03/15/2012 9:14:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: apillar

Yes and they love all those government entitlement programs though. Especially, SSI,and Social Security Disability.


48 posted on 03/15/2012 9:14:15 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Doors

Do you really think he had the Hispanic vote in the first place?


49 posted on 03/15/2012 9:16:12 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: The Shrew
I wish more Christian Conservatives could listen to the words of our Savior

Heal yourself.

50 posted on 03/15/2012 9:17:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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