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HOW TO RETURN TO $2.00 A GALLON GAS
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | March 15, 2012 | Jeff Head

Posted on 03/15/2012 7:53:42 AM PDT by Jeff Head

HOW TO RETRUN TO $2.00 A GALLON GAS

You know what, I am sick of hearing all of the endless wrangling by the major news media and politicians (particularly of the liberal variety) regarding the price of gas.

Yesterday I heard some so-called oil and gas expert on a talk show. He was a guest and clearly an Obama supporter. He launched into this protracted explanation of the price of gold, the value of the dollar, OPEC, the world market and China's purchasing, etc., etc. to explain why the price cannot come down and how anyone saying it can just doesn't understand the market or the way oil "works."

The explanation was so convoluted it was rediculous, he kept saying, "Now hang with me, I know this is not easy to understand," and, "I know this will not be easy to folow, there's a lot involved and I will try and walk you through it," and "this is complicated, there's no wonder everyone is making mistakes about it."

I finally just changed the channel.

Here's the deal.

Four years ago the gas prices went up. All of the same parameteres, POEC, the devalued dollar, China's use, the world market, etc. were in place at the time. Four years ago these same people said the price of oil and gas would not be coming down any time soon. (Hmmm seems like we've heard this same song and dance every few years).

Then President Bush (who unlike the current occupant of the White House actually understood oil and gas very well) simply stated that the US would immediately open up its drilling off shore, working the shales and the sands, working the ANWR and in the Dakotas.

...and everyone knew he meant it. He immediately began doing it and things started popping to make it happen.

Yes it was going to take years for those particular efforts to produce new oil (...but not ten years).

But guess what? It did not take years for the price to be impacted. No sir. Within months.

The Saudis and OPEC met and immediately reacted by cutting their prices. You see, it's simple to understand. They are floating in oil. Oil the western companies discovered and developed and then were given to them by Carter and other US Presidents and western leaders. Despite that, we were their major long term buyers, and remain so to this day. They do not want us to be capable economically of developing new sources that will make us independent of them.

So they lowered their prices...dramatically.

WITHIN SIX MONTHS THE PRICE OF GAS WAS WELL BELOW $2.00 A GALLON!

...and going down.

That was four years ago, in 2008.

Then Obama was elected.


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Pretty simple and direct comparison. Here's what happened.

Obama stopped all of that research and development on federal lands. He turned it off (except on private property where he couldn't...but he is trying to over regulate them and make it harder). He visited the Saudis, and if you remember, he bowed to the Saudi King. The Saudis were happy as were the other members of OPEC and the price climbed, and is still climbing, now back and past the price where it is was before Bush initiated the exploration, development, and drilling on all of those lands.

Most of us do not have such short memories as the politicians, the major media and the leftists want to imagine.

Today, right now, if we had a President, an administration, and a Congress with any spine or true concern about American strategic long term interests, we would do the same thing we did in 2008, except this time we would mean it and make it stick permanently.

If we did, like in 2008, the Arabs would lower prices which we would gladly take...right up until our own new oil and gas came on line. Then our own companies could produce it in abundance (we now have proven reserves doubling what all of the Arabs have together) and we would be able, IMHO, to do so for less than $2.50 a gallon...probably closer to $2.00 a gallon. And we would once and all break this foolish dependence on foreign oil for our needs.

So, next time you here the hogwash like I heard on the radio, remember what happened four years ago before Obama came along.

...and write your reps and tell them all abouit it. I have.

JEFF HEAD
March 15, 2012


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Here's my take regarding the rediculous arguements the liberals and Obama are making to hoodwink America about oil and gas.

Four years ago we went through the same thing with one eception...we had a President then who knew the dynamics and operations of the oil and gas market and who made an immediate difference.

1 posted on 03/15/2012 7:53:44 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

One good start is to stop putting Ethanol in our gas.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 7:55:50 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Jeff Head

Well stated. I agree 100%.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 7:56:47 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: Jim Robinson; amom; joanie-f; betty boop; Lurker; Noumenon; Grampa Dave; Two-Bits; soundbits; ...

FYI...my take and reflections on four years ago regarding gas prices.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 7:58:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
I'm just wondering how much worse it would be if we didn't have the Bakken and Eagle Ford shale.

Production on federally controlled lands actually declined from 2010 to 2011 by 14 percent.

5 posted on 03/15/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jeff Head
Why the hell don't we make OURSELVES rich rather then buy oil from our enemies making THEM rich?

It seems like they keep finding more oil every place they look- and the supplies we are using don't seem to be drying-up, some scientists seem to think they are replenishing themselves (i.e. oil is NOT really old dinosaurs)

6 posted on 03/15/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: hadaclueonce

What we did four years ago had immediate impact on the price because the Cartel did not want to be threatened and immediately reacted. we could do the same today and within six months we would be below $2/gallon.

We desperately need the Marxist, Obama, out of there for this and an entire host of other reasons that are similarly negatively impacting the nation.


7 posted on 03/15/2012 8:04:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Bump!


8 posted on 03/15/2012 8:08:55 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mr. K

We can...all we have to do is develop the vast resources we have in the ANWR, off our coasts (whcih the Chinese are already drilling outside our territorial waters), the oil shales, the vast fileds in the Dakotahs, etc.

All of this has already proven to be a lot more than all of the Arab countries combined. More than enough for us not only to be energy independent and provide the time needed to truly develop future sources, but would allow us to be the major exporter of oil and gas in the world.

We just need the will. The will of the people to put in office leaders with the will to do it.

I pray to God in Heaven we will here in 2012.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 8:10:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; Impy; Pan_Yans Wife; ...
RE :”Then President Bush (who unlike the current occupant of the White House actually understood oil and gas very well) simply stated that the US would immediately open up its drilling off shore, working the shales and the sands, working the ANWR and in the Dakotas.
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But guess what? It did not take years for the price to be impacted. No sir. Within months.
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The Saudis and OPEC met and immediately reacted by cutting their prices. ........So they lowered their prices...dramatically.
WITHIN SIX MONTHS THE PRICE OF GAS WAS WELL BELOW $2.00 A GALLON! ...and going down. That was four years ago, in 2008.

Gas prices dropped that low in late 2008 when the entire stock market crashed, and world demand for oil dropped dramicatically. Trying to repeat GWB’s success in that might cause some other problems.
President Bush’s Speech to the Nation on the Economic Crisis (TARP Speech) September 24, 2008

Going after Obama for his anti-domestic energy policies is critical but the story above might need some fine tuning to be believed.

10 posted on 03/15/2012 8:15:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Jeff Head

11 posted on 03/15/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff Head for President


12 posted on 03/15/2012 8:19:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Envisioning
IF the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA would embrace oil and natural gas exploration and production, we could power our economy for the next hundred years or more and cripple the economies of those who wish to enslave us.

DRILL BABY DRILL!


13 posted on 03/15/2012 8:20:12 AM PDT by Envisioning ( Call me a racist................, one more time......................)
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To: Envisioning

AMen.! Spot on.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 8:25:43 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Beyond the economic and independence arguments, which are good ones, there’s also the fact that oil money, by and large, sponsors terrorism and jihad.

If OPEC lowers their prices (as they would most certainly do), that’s less money for mayhem.

It also wouldn’t be a bad idea to legislate that all gasoline tax money must go directly to road maintenance. I’d go so far as to eliminate new road construction coming out of this fund, but definitely eliminate railroad/transit subsidies, general fund disbursements, etc. Our roads and related infrastructure need help and the gasoline tax is where the money should come from.


15 posted on 03/15/2012 8:27:58 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: sickoflibs

The prices were on the way down before the crash...and the crash was principally a financial crisis brought on by the Housing crash which, IMHO, was engineered by the democrats themselves.

Obama tied to the Economic Crisishttp://www.jeffhead.com/http://www.jeffhead.com//obama/communityorgan.htm

Watch the video linked there, “Burning down the House,”...it explains the crash very well.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 8:29:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: chrisser

Well said. We just need to elect the people who will do it...and that’s on us.

I believe, depsite all the hand wroinging, that the American people are sick and ttired of this anti-American prsident and his policies.

I hope and pray it results in a route in 2012, that he and the vipers with him are routed out of office and sent packing on a rail.


17 posted on 03/15/2012 8:31:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
I AM NOT STICKING UP FOR ZERO.

However, notice how they always say "when Zero took office, gas was..."?

That's because gasoline prices crashed in 2008 along with the stock market. When Zero was running for office, we had $4/gal gas when oil hit $140/bbl, and Zero was blaming Bush and his 'oil baron cronies.'

It is unrealistic to expect to return to $2/gal, unless you also expect to return to Dow 8500.


18 posted on 03/15/2012 8:38:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Jeff Head

Sure would be great to get control of government once again, especially with the TEA Party still in place to hold pubbie feet to the fire.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 8:40:00 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: smokingfrog

Great information, Jeff. Too much truth for some folks. People should be informed and reminded of this every chance we get.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 8:45:02 AM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Mr. K
Deep hot biosphere ping
21 posted on 03/15/2012 8:47:03 AM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Jeff Head

Do I hear 1.80$? Anyone want to say $1.80?


22 posted on 03/15/2012 8:48:05 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Jeff Head

bkmk


23 posted on 03/15/2012 8:48:43 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Jeff Head

24 posted on 03/15/2012 8:52:47 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff, I borrowed some of your graphic and added a little to it...

OBAMA GAS 2016, OBAMA GAS 2016
25 posted on 03/15/2012 8:59:36 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: Jeff Head

What do you think of this Jeff?


Date: 03-14-12
Host: George Noory
Guests: James R. Norman

Journalist James R. Norman argued that the U.S. and its allies use the price of oil as an economic weapon. The oil economic war against the Soviet Union worked so well in the 1980s, that this strategy is now being employed against “our other big geopolitical enemy,” China, which currently imports more oil than the US, and is much less able to pay for it, he outlined. The thinking in Washington is, it’s going to slow things down for China, and could put a crack in their political system, he continued. Other aspects of the economic war the US is waging with China are on the front page of the paper almost every day— with fights over trade actions, interest rates, and currency levels, he noted.

The whole Chinese business model is based on predatory trade practices, and that’s why the world is ganging up on them, Norman said, adding that China is facing large amounts of unemployment and social unrest, and their banks are sitting on huge assets of non-performing loans. Norman estimated that the actual cost of oil is between $10- $20 a barrel, but when US citizens shell out $4 a gallon at the pump, it’s collateral damage or the price we pay to engage in an economic rather than physical war with China.

Companies like Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, and Morgan Stanley are the economic warfare equivalent of a carrier battle group, because they are able to project power— that’s why financial restrictions were lessened for them, he explained. Morgan also touched on geopolitical/economic situations in such places as Russia, Europe, Iran, Venezuela, and Syria.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Q5hX5l3JU


26 posted on 03/15/2012 9:02:50 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mr. K

I heard a few years ago that some of the wells in the Gulf that were supposedly dried up actually filled back up. I’m guessing it was due to pressure and natural fracking.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 9:04:16 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Of course. Thats the simple answer and obvious one. The quickest way to cheapen the gas would be to remove the Federal tax on it. But if ya really want to drop the price of oil, bring down the Dow to circa 6500.


28 posted on 03/15/2012 9:06:34 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Jeff Head
RE :”..and the crash was principally a financial crisis brought on by the Housing crash which, IMHO, was engineered by the democrats themselves. was engineered by the democrats themselves. ..Watch the video linked there, “Burning down the House,”...it explains the crash very well.

I saw it many times (it was better with the orginal music) but it left out GWBs CRA type ‘get minorities with bad credit home loans’ initiatives and speeches from 2002 to about 2004.
If CRA was a major cause of that financial crisis then it doesnt absolve GWB’s finger-prints all over it with Democrats.

29 posted on 03/15/2012 9:17:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff

Oil is bought and sold on the world market. The price is a global one. The USA gets about 20% of its oil from Canada and more from Mexico. You are not actually importing that much from the Middle east.

In 2007 Pelosi became speaker of the house, Reid in the Senate, Bush was then in the WH, since then Obama. In 2007 the US national debt was 8.6 trillion. By the end of 2012 the USA national debt will be almost 17 trillion. It will have doubled in 5 years.

That debt was added by the US through the Fed buying its own bonds. This is destroying the value of the US dollar making not only oil but grain and food stuffs go up, like bread, or any grain product, even if the cardboard box stays the same but inside 12 oz went to 10 3/4 oz.

The problem is not just supply that is only one element, global demand is actually down and USA consumption is also down (unemployed people do not drive to work, for example).

The problem is the debt and spending.

30 posted on 03/15/2012 9:20:30 AM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: Jeff Head
RE :”The (oil) prices were on the way down before the crash...

Oil prices pretty much mirrored the DJIA in 2008. Both had a dip in mid summer and then took a major dive in October.,

I will have to do some screenshots that period and upload them to photobucket to show how remarkably similar they were.

I don't recommend doing that again to lower gas prices.

31 posted on 03/15/2012 9:24:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Jeff Head

The FIRST thing that needs to be done is to sign THE NATIONAL FUEL TAX HOLIDAY BILL.

BTW, they did it for the payroll tax, and that saved only $ 20/month.

No Federal Tax on gasoline will save 40 cents a gallon!


32 posted on 03/15/2012 9:26:52 AM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Jeff Head

I am sick of hearing all of the endless wrangling by the major news media and politicians (particularly of the liberal variety) regarding the price of gas.

...and you aren’t the only one.


33 posted on 03/15/2012 9:31:38 AM PDT by wita
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To: Jeff Head

I am sick of hearing all of the endless wrangling by the major news media and politicians (particularly of the liberal variety) regarding the price of gas.

...and you aren’t the only one.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 9:32:17 AM PDT by wita
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To: Theoria
The quickest way to cheapen the gas would be to remove the Federal tax on it. But if ya really want to drop the price of oil, bring down the Dow to circa 6500.

Unlike Europe, our our state and federal taxes on gasoline are not very high, and amount to about $0.50/gal.

The best way to drop the price of oil is to raise the supply of it, and strengthen the dollar.

Problem is, you cannot pay back a $14 trillion national debt with a stronger dollar.

Remember Sarah's "drill, baby drill!" mantra? That was because during the campaign gas prices were about where they are now. Prior to Zero's election, and prior to the huge skid in the Dow, which forced investors to liquidate their commodities assets to cover their equities losses.

35 posted on 03/15/2012 9:46:08 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Graewoulf
"The FIRST thing that needs to be done is to sign THE NATIONAL FUEL TAX HOLIDAY BILL.BTW, they did it for the payroll tax, and that saved only $ 20/month.No Federal Tax on gasoline will save 40 cents a gallon!

No, it would not. The lost tax revenue would be made up by increased ponzi borrowing, spending and more debt, which is what has to be done with the short fall in SS. The result is that gas would do down due to the removal of the tax and up because the dollar is further destroyed in its global purchasing power and the net result would be more interest due on the national debt. Gas prices would rebound.

If you eliminated every expenditure of the US government including defense, except welfare, unemployment, medicare, medicaid and social security (pensions) and kept just those at current levels you would still be 1 trillion dollars in debt each year on the federal level.

This is arithmetic not politics. This is the problem on both state and federal levels. No one, including Ron Paul, is dealing with it.

36 posted on 03/15/2012 9:53:12 AM PDT by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: Yo-Yo

As I said before, the price for gas began falling before the crash as I remember...and I believe ti would have continued to do so with or without the crash.

The inancial crisis was brought on by the housing crisis which, IMHO, the dems engineered, riding it into the ground and blaming Bush for it.

The video, “Burning Down the House,” is a good one on this subject.


37 posted on 03/15/2012 9:56:20 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jack of all Trades

We hjave enough proven reserves now to last through this century and beyond on our own if we want.

We should make use of them and use the time to move o other technologies where they make since...for example, over a 1020 year period we could easily moved private autos and a lot of commercial to hydrodgen power if we developed it correctly and made sure the infrastructure was in place to support it.

But overall, oil and gas are not going away soon...nor need they.


38 posted on 03/15/2012 9:59:13 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: FrankR

Outstanding! Should be a Bill Board on every major Highway in the US. Send it to the Koch brothers!


39 posted on 03/15/2012 10:04:44 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I believe we can fight the Chinese in the same wy while developing our own resources to the point that we are the major supplier. Then our people can have cheap gas while we use the position in the market for export to make it hard on nations like the Chinese when they step over the line as they are doing.

IOW, we do not have to make the American public suffr in the process if we are the ones with our hand on the spicket. too.


40 posted on 03/15/2012 10:07:52 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

This is not hard to understand. Dump Obama. Dump the EPA. Dump the Energy Dept. End the left’s ridiculous war on energy which is basically a Marxist war against freedom.


41 posted on 03/15/2012 10:10:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)
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To: hadaclueonce

One good start is to stop putting Ethanol in our gas.””

O pwn a station wagon I bought in 1980.

I own a Chevy Dually 1 ton truck I bought in 1986.

I keep track of my mileage—I always have since I got my first car at age 17 and I am now 72.

The addition of Ethanol into my vehicles drops my MPG as much as 14%. It drops a minimum of 10%, so I am using MORE fuel and making a larger “carbon foorptint” due to the messing around with gasoline blends.

IF Obama pushes the % of Ethanol much higher, the additive stuff will destroy gas lines & certain valves & gaskets. That will stall out many a vehicle with massive costs to repair them.


42 posted on 03/15/2012 10:23:42 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: sickoflibs

We need to start NOW!


43 posted on 03/15/2012 10:24:41 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: verklaring

In this age of short-term fixes, kick-the-can-down-the-road, etc., if “ - - - The result is that gas would do down due to the removal of the tax - - -, “ then the politician who signed THE FEDERAL FUEL TAX HOLIDAY BILL would be able to smile on camera holding up a newspaper that night with the glowing headline: “PAIN AT THE PUMP REDUCED.”

The basic problem is that Governments, World wide, are trying to compete with a marketplace system that has existed for thousands of years.

Since 95 % of the Oil sold in the World is under the control of National Governments (the USA is one of the few exceptions), it is only natural for a politician to think that the price of Oil is also controlled by Governments.

The reality is that SUPPLY AND DEMAND still are the major forces that controls the pricing of Oil, although few Governments, or cartels of governments will publicly admit that cruel, and very humiliating (to them) reality.


44 posted on 03/15/2012 10:26:24 AM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen...absolutely spot on, Jim.

I’m sick of the left and liberals and other pols making something sound difficult when it is pretty straight forward.

If someone has to go too such lengths to try and get you to understand something like this, particularly when we have the recent history that we have to look back on and compare, you can almost be sure they are feeding you a load of horse hockey and BS and that they are operating out of self, or ideological intersts as opposed to the common good.

If we develop our own abundant sources, if we tell the Arabs and others we are going to do so, if we take away the overburdensome central (marxist/communist) controls which are placed there precisely to stifle our capabilities, and if we then put American interests first, we will have abundant and cheap oil and gas.

God’s speed, Jim...I pray we can double donw on 2010 here in 2012 and continue making great strides to turning this thing around.


45 posted on 03/15/2012 10:30:18 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ridesthemiles

The 12% reduction is a NASCAR number since they have to burn that crap.


46 posted on 03/15/2012 10:47:41 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Jeff Head

We could always invade Iran and cut off China’s major oil supplier and place an all around oil embargo on them, plus embargo jet fuel and scrap metal similar to what we did to Japan before WW2.


47 posted on 03/15/2012 11:40:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”We need to start NOW!

There is no point in drilling because it wont result in more oil for.....years and...but wait, that is what Dems told us 5 years ago...10 years ago...OK, maybe that is not a good argument....OK
but maybe solar panels and electric cars and algae will get us cheap energy faster than oil.....lets ‘invest’ more in companies like Solyndra, we might just need to raise your taxes now and you will get it back later in cheaper energy costs... just like paying for that birth control mandate is free...or how raising your taxes in obama-care paid off because health care premiums are going down now...right?...
only those that believe in flat earth dont believe in Green energy ....Obama says..

48 posted on 03/15/2012 11:52:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; Impy
RE :”We need to start NOW!

There is no point in drilling because it wont result in more oil for.....years and...but wait, that is what Dems told us 5 years ago...10 years ago...OK, maybe that is not a good argument....OK
but maybe solar panels and electric cars and algae will get us cheap energy faster than oil.....lets ‘invest’ more in companies like Solyndra, we might just need to raise your taxes now and you will get it back later in cheaper energy costs... just like paying for that birth control mandate is free...or how raising your taxes in obama-care paid off because health care premiums are going down now...right?...
only those that believe in flat earth dont believe in Green energy ....Obama says..

49 posted on 03/15/2012 11:52:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Jeff Head

he wants high gas prices. he wants us to all suffer and do without.


50 posted on 03/15/2012 1:00:43 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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