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RutherfordGate: Historian Responds to President Obama’s Hayes Slur
New York News and Features ^ | 3/15/2012 | Dan Amira

Posted on 03/15/2012 12:13:42 PM PDT by blueyon

It's not unusual for President Obama to criticize his Republican predecessors from time to time, but this morning, he targeted his scorn not at George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan, but ... Rutherford B. Hayes. As Politico reported:

Speaking about the need to develop new sources of American energy in Largo, Md., Obama used our 19th president as a failure of forward-thinking leadership.

"One of my predecessors, President Rutherford B. Hayes, reportedly said about the telephone: 'It’s a great invention but who would ever want to use one?'" Obama said. "That's why he's not on Mt. Rushmore."

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: campaigning; democrats; drillbabydrill; election; flatearthers; flatearthersspeech; obama; rutherfordhayes
LOL...Mr I have been to all 57 states does it again.
1 posted on 03/15/2012 12:13:56 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

Obama is still mad that Hayes ended Reconstruction.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 12:15:19 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: blueyon

I guess it is expecting too much for the o to know WHY anyone is on Mt. R.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 12:17:05 PM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He didn’t say any thing about shovel ready
Reconstruction jobs?


4 posted on 03/15/2012 12:18:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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5 posted on 03/15/2012 12:20:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: blueyon

In fairness to Obama, his staff found it on a European website. So, when the quote when from English to Austrian and back to English it got garbled.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 12:20:56 PM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: blueyon
From the POTUS files:

Rutherford B. Hayes Points of Interest:


7 posted on 03/15/2012 12:20:56 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: blueyon

It doesn’t really matter though. Obama took those young minds and warped em. Now they believe him. It has nothing to do with facts or truth.


8 posted on 03/15/2012 12:21:15 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: blueyon

I’m somewhat surprised he knows who Rutherford B. Hayes is.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 12:22:13 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: blueyon

Like Everything else he says, IT'S A LIE

From the Washington Times:

New York Magazine contacted the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Fremont, Ohio to get the real story about President Hayes:

Nan Card, the Curator of Manuscripts, was plenty willing to correct Obama's ignorance of White House history. Just as soon as she finished chuckling.

"I've heard that before, and no one ever knows where it came from," Card said of Hayes's alleged phone remark, "but people just keep repeating it and repeating it, so it's out there." Wait, so Hayes didn't even say the quote that Obama is mocking him for? "No, no," Card confirmed.

She then read aloud a newspaper article from June 29, 1877, which describes Hayes's delight upon first experiencing the magic of the telephone. The Providence Journal story reported that as Hayes listened on the phone, "a gradually increasing smile wreathe[d] his lips and wonder shone in his eyes more and more.” Hayes took the phone from his ear, "looked at it a moment in surprise and remarked, 'That is wonderful.'"

10 posted on 03/15/2012 12:23:53 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: WPaCon
I’m somewhat surprised he knows who Rutherford B. Hayes is.

He probably didn't. He just had a speechwriter who did.

11 posted on 03/15/2012 12:24:51 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: blueyon
Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.

Ronald Reagan

12 posted on 03/15/2012 12:25:25 PM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: blueyon

Well, zero will never be on Mt. Rushmore, either....


13 posted on 03/15/2012 12:26:01 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Izzy Dunne

So 100 years from now, future presidents and public figures will be quoting Obama for the stupid things he said during his public life.

I hope he understands that misquotes will be part of it.

But to really grasp what Obama is as a President, all the stupid things he’s said and done will be on record.

This guy is the 1/2 black Joe Biden.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 12:30:24 PM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: Jack Burton007

Biden is at least good for comic relief. ObaMao is an evil, power mad narcissist with incurable delusions of grandeur.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 12:36:37 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"a gradually increasing smile wreathe[d] his lips

How could they tell?


17 posted on 03/15/2012 12:42:13 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: blueyon
Obama isn't qualified to mow the grass around Rutherford B. Hayes' gravesite.


18 posted on 03/15/2012 12:45:35 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: blueyon
Sarah Palin was right about Paul Revere, and Obama is ignorant when it comes to Presidential history!

And that is the fact, Jack.

19 posted on 03/15/2012 12:47:39 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jack Burton007
I would love for them to carve a figure of Obama at the base of Mt Rushmore shining the shoes of the presidents who are there honorably.

That would be a very bad move, as Obama isn't qualified for that job.

20 posted on 03/15/2012 12:50:36 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jack Burton007
I would love for them to carve a figure of Obama at the base of Mt Rushmore shining the shoes of the presidents who are there honorably.

I doubt he'd have made a competent shoe shine boy. Other than a gift of grift, and enough gab to con the witless, I can't see any real talent or display of work ethic in the fellow.

21 posted on 03/15/2012 12:52:14 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: blueyon

Alinsky’s rules for radicals: Ridicule is the most potent weapon. So the Orwellian leftist rewrites history, ridiculing perhaps the best man, and one of the better presidents of the second half of the nineteenth century.


22 posted on 03/15/2012 12:53:59 PM PDT by ngat
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To: hometoroost
Americans are just too stupid to recognize Obama's brilliance, doncha know?
23 posted on 03/15/2012 12:54:03 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I was more surprized to learn that John Tyler, who was born in 1790 has a grandson who is still alive. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/president-tyler-grandson-alive.html

That would be like me having a grandson who lived into the 2170’s.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 1:07:12 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: blueyon
The audacity of dope.
25 posted on 03/15/2012 1:10:42 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (Barack has a memory like a steel trap; it's a gift ~ Michelle Obama)
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To: illiac

although... i’m sure someone will make a mint on 0failure shaped urinal cakes


26 posted on 03/15/2012 1:12:19 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SoFloFreeper

most all obama voters are ignorant when it comes to history and even the meaning of words.

Obama voters only view the world via DNC talking points.

If the Obama reelection committee said dictionaries are racist, then Obama voters would say dictionary burning is an obligation to fight racism.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 1:40:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Izzy Dunne; blueyon
“We thought it was a bit unsporting of Obama to attack President Hayes, who is quite unable to respond. So we called up the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Fremont, Ohio, where Nan Card, the curator of manuscripts, was plenty willing to correct Obama’s ignorance of White House history. Just as soon as she finished chuckling.”

President DumbA$$ educating future voting Dummycrats for the Democrat Party.

28 posted on 03/15/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: WPaCon
I’m somewhat surprised he knows who Rutherford B. Hayes is.

Same here. This proves his "speechwriters" are as dumb as he is.

Sound of teleprompter glass pane shattering on floor--hub cap falling off podium.

29 posted on 03/15/2012 2:18:01 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: blueyon
"That's why he's not on Mt. Rushmore."

That's why you are on Easter Island.

30 posted on 03/15/2012 2:33:11 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

President Tyler was a randy old bugger. Born in 1790, he married his second wife in 1844 when he was 54 and she was 24, and had 7 children with her, the last when he was 70. Lyon Gardiner Tyler then went on to also marry a much younger second wife and fathered children with her at 70.


31 posted on 03/15/2012 3:47:38 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: El Cid
LOL I grew up across the street from Spiegel Grove, The Hayes Estate. Me, my brothers, and our fellow explorers covered every inch of the place, and toured the museum weekly at min. I've been in Texas for 30 years now - good to see a shot of the big ole trees around there. Hayes’ horse is buried near the grave site pictured above.
As I recall, the election was fraught with Democrat fraud, or so it was claimed. See: http://www.rbhayes.org/hayes/president/display.asp?id=512&subj=president
Sounds like there was plenty of fraudulent activity to go around.
It's a long read, but it explains why Barry & Co know about Hayes: the Dems were out-maneuvered. Carry on!
Mark
32 posted on 03/15/2012 3:56:58 PM PDT by f1boss
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To: blueyon

Funny, though: St. Reagan cited the same quote.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/reagan-cited-same-rutherford-hayes-anecdote-as-obama


35 posted on 03/15/2012 8:36:44 PM PDT by Boojum_Reborn (E Pluribus Unum)
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To: Boojum_Reborn

Alexander Graham Bell said it first.

He showed president elect Hayes his first generation phone which was ugly and strange looking. Hayes said the line ‘It’s a great invention but who would ever want to use one?”. Since Hayes was not president .. no WH reporter ... and no personal record.

Bell redesigned the phone to the crank phone with the ear piece on the end of a wire. Bell requested that it be installed in the WH and Hayes went for the PR op. Bell had repeated the Hayes line until Hayes allowed Bell to install the phone in the WH.

Reagan repeated this story in a speech in 1985. Obama used the same Reagan story as he often uses former Reagan stories so republicans can’t whine about it.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 7:17:16 PM PDT by aDCBeast
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