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Carney: Calling GOP "Flat-Earthers" Was A "Policy Message" (video)
Clear Politics ^ | 3/15/12 | staff

Posted on 03/15/2012 1:06:29 PM PDT by Nachum

Jay Carney, White House: It seems even talking about alternative energy sources is funny and I think calling them flat-earthers is appropriate.

Mark Knoller, CBS News: "Isn't that a campaign message?"

Carney: "No! It's a policy message. We believe we have to do this for the sake of America's economic future. It is simply not an option to say that we can keep drilling with two-percent of the known oil reserves in the world when we consume 20-percent of the world's oil. I was a mediocre math student, but that doesn't seem to work out.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anwr; carney; energy; flatearthers; gop; keystonexl; opec

1 posted on 03/15/2012 1:06:34 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 03/15/2012 1:07:59 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Hey Carney. What do you and the amateur Occupy_White House poseur think is so funny about Solyndra, Fixer and The 11 Other Solyndras ?!
3 posted on 03/15/2012 1:15:11 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Nachum

Hey, Jim. Nothing is more ludicrous than your party’s belief of SPENDING AWAY our country into oblivion.


4 posted on 03/15/2012 1:19:41 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Nachum

“If we 25 oil reserves”
This administration is locked into pseudo...Everything that issues forth from it is false ....They really do believe the American people are stupid and believe their utterances are the gospel


5 posted on 03/15/2012 1:20:46 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: Nachum

More WH personal attacks on the American people will not help them.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 1:20:59 PM PDT by hope
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To: Nachum; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
Check out the transparent bald faced lie above by Obama-company.

These people amaze even me with their dishonesty and I dont trust any of them.

On the funny side Larry O Donnell on MSNBC has taken up to regularly complaining that the MSM refuses to call Romney's claims ‘lies’ . But guess what, LOD has yet to report on a lie from Obama.

If Romney gets the nomination it really will be a contest of liars.

7 posted on 03/15/2012 1:21:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: mosesdapoet

Correction that’s 2% oil reserves


8 posted on 03/15/2012 1:22:36 PM PDT by mosesdapoet ("The best way to punish a country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great p/p)
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To: Nachum

And I guess not believing in unicorns is intellectually retrograde!


9 posted on 03/15/2012 1:24:04 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Romney: "I can haz cheezy grits, Y'all?")
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To: Nachum
“mediocre math student”

Carney was no doubt right about that!

20% of consumption is quite independent of 2% of reserves.

From what I've read lately, the US consumes roughly the same fraction of rare earth elements, and has roughly the same fraction of reserves. That doesn't stop the Obama Administration from pushing wind power and advanced battery technology, both of which require rare earths.

Another example: The Obama Administration is comprised of 20% of the world's Marxist ideologues who occupy positions of political power, but the US has very few self-described communists.

10 posted on 03/15/2012 1:27:56 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Nachum

There’s something like 80 billion barrels of the shores of the U.S., not to mention the oil in ANWR, as well as on other federal lands. The government refuses to let companies tap our own resources despjte the billions in economic output, the revenue, or the jobs it will create. I am utterly amazed the republicans don’t hammer this issue loudly..it is scandalous. Let’s not forget the potential of fracking either. The so-called alternatives like wind and solar cannot match the output of fossil fuels and require the government to a) handicap the oil industry, b) exclude real alternatives like nuclear energy, and c) subsidize them heavily. I’m not against alternatives, but they come from the market place and stand on their own as superior alternatives rather than leftists in government mandating their idelogical hostility to oil production and use.


11 posted on 03/15/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: Nachum

I liked the rather incomprehensible ad that came out shortly afterwards, ending with “If they were in charge, the earth would still be flat.”


12 posted on 03/15/2012 1:30:17 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: mosesdapoet

The IBD had a front page article debunking this lie,

but nowhere in the MSM are you going to see it.
They’ll cover for them and amplify the 2% lie.


13 posted on 03/15/2012 1:31:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Mach9

So says the pofs whose boss blames ATM machines and the internet for job losses.

What a damn joke these people are.


14 posted on 03/15/2012 1:31:22 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

They’d be a “joke” if they didn’t have the power to really screw up our lives.


15 posted on 03/15/2012 1:32:35 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Nachum

Statists just don’t get it. Even if they think the “math doesn’t work out,” it’s not up to them to decide. So the Obama administration thinks it has to look to other energy forms to save America. I don’t doubt them. I believe they think they are really doing what’s necessary to wean us proles off of traditional energy for our own (and the planet’s) good, but the arrogance of believing they know what’s best for 300 million Americans is simply astonishing. It’s a fundamental misconception of the role of government. It’s not for them to fix. It’s for them to get out of the way and let market forces find the best solutions! Mark Levin would derisively call these guys “masterminds,” and he’s right. They literally believe they know what’s best for us, as if they designed the oil and coal industries themselves and can make solar and wind viable alternatives with a stroke of a pen.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 1:33:00 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Nachum

Great post!


17 posted on 03/15/2012 1:39:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Nachum

Obama’s opinion of Americans by Mel Brooks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpYs9GBXwY


18 posted on 03/15/2012 1:39:12 PM PDT by dainbramaged (No more RINOS, for cryin' out loud!)
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To: Nachum
All Obama has is Alinsky's Rule #5.

Evidently, he isn't intelligent enough to come up with anything else.

19 posted on 03/15/2012 1:41:18 PM PDT by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Nachum

The new ‘Jews’. Pretty soon we’ll be required to wear armbands.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 1:44:08 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Nachum
Would not a liberal say we are raping other countries of their natural resources for our greedy, excessive lifestyle?

While safe-guarding our own natural resources?

That's not fair !!

21 posted on 03/15/2012 1:46:11 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Nachum
Scarce Oil? U.S. Has 60 Times More Than Obama Claims
22 posted on 03/15/2012 1:46:34 PM PDT by epithermal
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To: Nachum

It is simply not an option to say that we can keep drilling with two-percent of the known oil reserves in the world when we consume 20-percent of the world’s oil. I was a mediocre math student, but that doesn’t seem to work out.

Jay! What in the world are you talking about?
How much oil we consume has nothing to do with how
much we have. There is a disconnect there, one has
nothing to do with the other unless you are of the
mindset that equates quotas to everything.
In which case you would have to be 12% black just
to fit the mold.

Mediocre doesn’t begin to describe you or this administration.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 1:51:54 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nachum

Seems to me that the administration is of the “flat earth” crew. Appears that the only real energy sources to these folks are above the ground (wind, solar, etc). Are they afraid that the earth will sink if too many holes are drilled?


24 posted on 03/15/2012 1:53:26 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: sickoflibs; Nachum; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...

O’Donnell belongs in HELL!


25 posted on 03/15/2012 1:58:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Nachum

I am so sick of this President and his administration making everything that happens out to be a joke. It’s not funny. It’s scarey that they take NOTHING serious. Like they are a bunch of teenagers! Idiots!


26 posted on 03/15/2012 1:59:10 PM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: epithermal

Good article - it shows Obama is either ignorant or lying.


27 posted on 03/15/2012 2:00:06 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri; All

” There’s something like 80 billion barrels of the shores of the U.S., not to mention the oil in ANWR, as well as on other federal lands. The government refuses to let companies tap our own resources despjte the billions in economic output, the revenue, or the jobs it will create. I am utterly amazed the republicans don’t hammer this issue loudly..it is scandalous”

Last time I heard from the Republican House, Boner came out of his cave to trash Limbaugh....


28 posted on 03/15/2012 2:00:58 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Nachum

You mean....it ISN’T flat?


29 posted on 03/15/2012 2:01:51 PM PDT by No!
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To: Nachum
Would not a liberal say we are raping other countries of their natural resources for our greedy, excessive lifestyle?

While safe-guarding our own natural resources?

That's not fair !!

30 posted on 03/15/2012 2:08:50 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Nachum

Bump to see later.


31 posted on 03/15/2012 2:32:09 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: sickoflibs; All

If you took all of the estrogen contained within Sandra Fluke’s countless birth control pills that she has consumed as of this point in her life, mixed it with some cheap muscatel, maybe a couple doses of Vicks Nyquil, and downed it all in one quick gulp, you would soon approach the level of hysterical, intellectual content that Larry O Donnell displays every time he runs his piehole on TV.


32 posted on 03/15/2012 2:36:36 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in the panties of American history, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: Cricket24
Like they are a bunch of teenagers! Idiots!

If terrorist nations went together and dumped a few $hundred Million into a presidential campaign and got their boy elected, what would their SCAMER do differently than Hussein Obama?

A terrorist President would shut down oil production, would spend like a drunken sailor buying booze, would try to destroy the country morally....

A President Named Hussein would do Nothing differently than Obama. WAIT! Obama is named Hussein.

33 posted on 03/15/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by politicianslie (Obama: America's first Muslim POTUS, doing all he can to destroy America. HELLO, can anyone th)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There’s no leadership from the republicans in the House or Senate; Obamunism has a long list of failed policies such as the trillion dollar stimulus (more than the entire Iraq war), the energy side is simply a veiled attack on real enery solutions while average Americans are paying the price, and his foreign policy approach is to apologize for America existing..it is a crime that the GOP establishment would rather ride in the back seat.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 2:54:16 PM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: griswold3
The new ‘Jews’. Pretty soon we’ll be required to wear armbands.

No, they get the spiffy arm bands and shiny boots. We get to wear the "C" patches pinned on our chest. See you at the train station.

35 posted on 03/15/2012 3:05:28 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: Skepolitic
20% of consumption is quite independent of 2% of reserves.

Don't go confusing the masses with logic. This is pure propaganda. The 2% and 20% numbers were chosen to make the "math" easy for the sheeple. "Oh look, we need 10 times more than we have".

The simple counter ad to Obama would be to show a gas pump in 2008 with the price at $1.75 and then ding-ding-ding-ding $4.50 in 2012. "This isn't the change you were likely looking for" can be the voiceover.

36 posted on 03/15/2012 3:08:47 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Nachum

I will be so happy when these bastards are beaten in November. Watching that fruit Carney have to hem and haw as his boss packs his bags will be nice.


37 posted on 03/15/2012 5:41:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: sjmjax

Not gettin’ on that train. All my 90 yo German mother had to do to keep her job was to join the Nazi party. She didn’t and has alot of stories to tell.
She’s having flashbacks and recognizes the danger of these ‘progressives’. I try tell her to quit watching MSNBC.


38 posted on 03/15/2012 6:48:05 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3
Thanks for the response and best regards to your mother for what she endured.

Perhaps what I'm trying to say is that the interesting thing about lessons from the past, is that we don't seem to learn anything from past history.

I don't mean some of us individually but society & government in general.

39 posted on 03/15/2012 9:02:37 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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To: sjmjax

I agree. If folks understood what is really happening, we would be well on our way back to recovery. But folks are easily deceived with counterfactual arguments (’Stimulus saved us from a depression’)
Obama likens his ‘movement’ to Mandela (”How to be a Good Communist”) and Gandhi (who wanted Soviet Style Communism without the mass murders) and no one bats an eye.
Maybe Marx was right. There is a inevitible progression towards tyranny. People in the end like to be taken care of.


40 posted on 03/16/2012 6:01:21 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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