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Obama Mangles U.S., World History In Energy Speech
Talking Points Memo ^ | 03/15/12 | Benjy Sarlin

Posted on 03/15/2012 2:46:57 PM PDT by nhwingut

President Obama got a laugh out of a Maryland audience on Thursday when he mocked the Republican Party in a speech, comparing their skepticism of alternative energy to the “Flat Earth Society” in Christopher Columbus’ day and President Rutherford B. Hayes’ apparent dismissal of the telephone. But while Obama thinks the GOP is in need of a science lesson, he may need to bone up on history himself.

In mocking the GOP, Obama cited an anecdote about Hayes in which, upon using the telephone for the first time, he said, “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”

“That’s why he’s not on Mount Rushmore,” Obama said. “He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anwr; bhofascism; energy; fail; history; kenyanvillageidiot; keystonexl; nobama2012; obama; opec; rutherfordbhayes; visionarynewt
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1 posted on 03/15/2012 2:47:05 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

As I understand it, Hayes was terrified of flying in Marine 1.


2 posted on 03/15/2012 2:51:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nhwingut

The modern equivalent of Flat Earth believers are those who believe in man caused global warming. Like the earth is flat crowd global warming cultists hold on to their dogma regardless of any actual science that proves them wrong.


3 posted on 03/15/2012 2:51:56 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: nhwingut

Who is this Hayes guy and which of the 57 states did he come from?


4 posted on 03/15/2012 2:52:57 PM PDT by max americana
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To: nhwingut

Has the ‘Obama on Mt. Rushmore’ drive begun?


5 posted on 03/15/2012 2:54:53 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: cripplecreek

And, that’s why Hayes always traveled by transporter beam.


6 posted on 03/15/2012 2:56:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: nhwingut
Obama is a fool.

Regardless of all the unproven, unverified, undocumented, ‘claims’ of his great education, the things he does and especially the things he says are just plain stupid.

He is confused about anything American. Even a porta-potty is a puzzle to him. It is obvious to anyone with any common sense that he was raised abroad.

7 posted on 03/15/2012 2:56:46 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: nhwingut

Obama said. “He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.”

Can you explain to us again why we can’t drill for oil like the rest of the world?


8 posted on 03/15/2012 2:57:05 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: SoldierDad

Hayes was also known to like rainy days and long walks on the beach.


9 posted on 03/15/2012 2:58:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nhwingut
0bama is doing his Pinocchio imitation.

Nothing but lies from the wooden marionette.


10 posted on 03/15/2012 3:00:15 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: nhwingut

Well, there goes the claim about Obozo’s intelligence.


11 posted on 03/15/2012 3:01:37 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: nhwingut
Maybe Baby Barry used to light up and groove on this classic...


12 posted on 03/15/2012 3:02:39 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: nhwingut

The Hayes Center in Fremont, Ohio is worth a visit. And while you’re in the area, visit the Garfield home in Mentor.


13 posted on 03/15/2012 3:02:38 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: nhwingut

The ignorant leading the ignorant!


14 posted on 03/15/2012 3:03:42 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: nhwingut

Imagine the fun the left would have with this if it were Palin? Especially in the tone he used (mocking in a mean spirited manner).


15 posted on 03/15/2012 3:14:59 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else (Maybe Tim Thomas))
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To: nhwingut

I wish I could remember which FReeper had a tagline quoting Abe Lincoln complaining about people making up quotes to use as internet taglines.


16 posted on 03/15/2012 3:26:59 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: nhwingut

This is unfair to our pRes_ _ent-by-Trick.

He was brought up in Kenya and Indonesia as a Moslem,
and planted here to destroy America.

What could the lying Marxist
possibly know about American history?


17 posted on 03/15/2012 3:27:35 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: nhwingut

Maybe BO was thinking of Isaac Hayes. Even then I am quite certain Isaac dug the telephone.
I doubt either Hayes ever needed to use a teleprompter in order to speak a complete coherent sentence.


18 posted on 03/15/2012 3:29:23 PM PDT by Leep (Dueling tag lines=don't worry,you'll be a vegetable guy soon<>It's gonna be a Newt day!)
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To: nhwingut

I think Limbaugh had the best response to the poser:

TRANSCRIPT:
Hardy-har-har. I am laughing so hard I’m splitting my side. This guy’s such a comedian. He’s so funny. Let me make one point about this. “They make jokes about biofuels.” No, we make jokes about him. Last week or the week before, Obama was in Florida where he suggested that a replacement fuel for oil would be algae. And he looked at the audience in Florida and he said (impression), “I’ve looked down there at the Everglades aaaand you’ve got looooots of algae. What if someone find a way to turn algae into oil?” Now, the proper reaction here is: “What is the difference between algae and oil?” This is the question you have to ask yourself: “Why is oil filthy, rotten, dirty, stinky, and algae is clean and pure and filled with potential, when we already know what we can do with oil?”

We know the magic that there is in the refining of oil.

Oil is as much a part of nature as is algae.

The difference is, there is no magic in algae.

If there were it would have been discovered. The latest biofuel that was touted was ethanol, and that was to take corn away from Mexicans and their tacos and to put it into gasoline for us in our cars. And we have found out that it’s not efficient, it’s not cheaper, and it’s actually harder on engines than regular old gasoline. But this assumption that everything the free markets come up with is somehow corrupt — it’s dirty, it’s evil, it’s polluted, it destroys the planet — but algae is great? What’s the difference? Algae and oil are no different than a blade of grass, no different than a mud puddle. It’s all nature. Oil, nobody created it. Big Oil doesn’t manufacture it.

There is no evil CEO in charge of the recipe for oil who is secretly making it somewhere knowing full well that it pollutes and destroys and kills, ‘cause it doesn’t do that. Do you ever stop to ask yourself, “Wait a minute, now! Algae or corn, what’s the difference between all that and oil?” We can’t use algae for anything like we can use oil for. Now, I bring this stuff up because these are techniques and tactics used by the Democrats and the Democrat Party to advance their political agenda, which is the expansion of government and more and more control over individual lives. Loss of freedom. That’s what this is all about. There’s no difference in oil and algae in terms of being organic, being natural, being part of the earth. The oil was here before we were.

And again, there’s no recipe for it. No evil scientist manufactured it. It’s not the tool of somebody to wipe people out and to pollute countries in the oceans and kill fish. That’s not what it’s for and that’s not why it was created or designed. But it’s treated that way. Oil is treated by the American left — by the Democrat Party, by Democrat politicians — as some almost evil invention, when it’s not. In fact, if you ask me, it’s incredible ingenuity to figure out what all we can do with oil and what it has meant to economic growth and prosperity, wealth creation, liberty, freedom. It’s amazing what has come from oil in that regard. Not from algae. And if you’re gonna question anybody, you’ve got to question the sense of somebody who looks at pond scum and sees a replacement for oil.

That’s the oddity.

That’s what’s weird.

That’s what’s strange.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

Here’s another thing about oil versus algae in terms of a benefit. We don’t have to look at pools of oil. We gotta look at pools of algae all day long. You ever go play golf? You see pond scum on every lake practically!

You never see oil. It’s like Benjamin Franklin said about beer: Oil is proof that God loves us. That’s what Benjamin Franklin said about beer: It’s “proof that God loves us.” Well, I would say the same thing about oil. The second thing before I get to the phones. This is John Merline today of the Investor’s Business Daily. Headline: “US Has 60 Times More Oil Than Obama Claims.” And let me give you a couple of pull quotes from the story. I just want to tell you something else, too. With this massive supply of oil, there is no reason for gasoline prices to be going up by the day. They are only going up because of the speculator market and the laws of supply and demand. We have so much oil that this man is standing in the way of getting.

It’s all here. We have enough for total independence from imported oil. Now, that would shake up world economies. If we stopped buying oil from the Saudis (we’re their big customer) they’d probably find replacements. Canada is our number one source for oil, by the way. If we stop buying oil from them, they’ll just sell to the ChiComs or India. But here are a couple of pull quotes: “A separate Rand Corp. study found that about 800 billion barrels of oil shale in Wyoming and neighboring states is ‘technically recoverable,’ which means it could be extracted using existing technology. That’s more than triple the known reserves in Saudi Arabia,” in just Wyoming and neighboring states! And we have the ability to go get it.

The second pull quote: “All told, the US has access to 400 billion barrels of crude that could be recovered using existing drilling technologies, according to a 2006 Energy Department report.” A government report! Not some private corporation, not some think tank, but our very own beloved government said it. The Energy Department said in 2006 that America “has access to 400 billion barrels of crude that could be recovered using existing drilling technologies.” That would be one-and-a-half times the known reserves in Saudi Arabia. We use 19 million barrels a day. We have access to 400 billion right now: 800 billion in shale, 400 billion barrels of crude.

“When you include oil shale, the US has,” dadelut dadelut dadelut dadelut dadelut, “1.4 trillion barrels of technically recoverable oil, according to the Institute for Energy Research, enough to meet all US oil needs for about the next 200 years, without any imports. And even this number could be low, since such estimates tend to go up over time. ... ‘This is not a geological problem — it’s a political problem,’ said Dan Kish, senior vice president for policy at the Institute for Energy Research. ‘We’ve embargoed our own supplies.’”

Now, the source for this, again, is Investor’s Business Daily and the author of the story is John Merline. But he’s quoting Rand corporation study, the US government, and the Institute for Energy Research. So these are shocking numbers: 800 billion barrels of shale, 400 billion barrels of crude, a grand total of between 1.2 and 1.4 trillion barrels of technically recoverable oil to meet America’s needs for the next 200 years without importing a single barrel. It’s there and “technically recoverable,” meaning we’ve got the means to go get it. What we don’t have is the political will to go get it, because this kind of action in the private sector — energy independence having nothing to do with government — Obama will not permit. He will not allow it.


19 posted on 03/15/2012 3:29:23 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: nhwingut

Remember how the press came after Palin after she had just come out of the Paul Revere museum? And she was right!

I also posted and referenced this same article here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2859609/posts

I listed some of the reader’s comments, in the New York Times nonetheless, which were hilarious.


20 posted on 03/15/2012 3:29:36 PM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Fiji Hill

“The Hayes Center in Fremont, Ohio is worth a visit. And while you’re in the area, visit the Garfield home in Mentor”

I would recomend a stop at Fremont Speedway as well!


21 posted on 03/15/2012 3:34:29 PM PDT by Gettin Betta
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To: nhwingut

I listened to Obama for about two minutes. That was all I could take. His ridicule and put-downs made me want to throw something at my TV. I cannot stand him (but still won’t vote for Romney).


22 posted on 03/15/2012 3:39:32 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Diogenesis

Speaking of the village idiot, a sand dune somewhere is missing it’s idiot Obama. The Hayes Center will be enjoyed by all ages. Great place to visit in Ohio not far from the turnpike.


23 posted on 03/15/2012 3:49:01 PM PDT by healy61
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To: ilovesarah2012

Just remember, Americans — that if we stood this clown next to Newt on the stage ...it would absolutely demonstrate his idiocy and ineptitude, for the world to see.

Newt IS the one who could do it — deftly and swiftly.

It would be an absolutely beautiful sight to behold ...and yet it’s possible we are we’re throwing this chance away.


24 posted on 03/15/2012 3:49:25 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Lucky9teen
The oil was here before we were.... It’s not the tool of somebody to wipe people out and to pollute countries in the oceans and kill fish.

The development of petroleum near the end of the 19th century did far more to save the whales than leftists ever did.

25 posted on 03/15/2012 3:50:39 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: LibsRJerks

I agree. Newt was never my first choice but I could live with him and would take him over Romney for sure.


26 posted on 03/15/2012 4:04:26 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: nhwingut

1. There seems to be no end to this mans stupidity.

2. Whoever writes his speeches needs to get fired. Isn’t there anyone on his payroll that can proofread his garbage before he makes himself look like more of a moron than he already is?


27 posted on 03/15/2012 4:19:36 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: ilovesarah2012

NO ROMNEY! And the harder Fox News pushes his candudacy, the angrier it makes those of us who have no intentions of voting for him. NO ROMNEY!!!


28 posted on 03/15/2012 4:21:42 PM PDT by lu shissler
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To: LibsRJerks

Newt is the ONLY one! Thank goodness he is hanging tough! But, remember, he needs our help financially. He has a long way to go. A $10 or $20 dollar bill from his base of 175,000 donors would make a big difference for him, GIVE, NEWT PEOPLE.


29 posted on 03/15/2012 4:26:39 PM PDT by lu shissler
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To: nhwingut

In which of the 57 states did he make this speech...and were there any Navy Corpse-men in attendance?


30 posted on 03/15/2012 4:34:58 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (All hail Her Royal Highness Sarah, Queen of The Hobbits)
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To: cripplecreek
And, his favorite beverage was Pina Colada
31 posted on 03/15/2012 4:39:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad
Well, there goes the claim about Obozo’s intelligence.

I've said from the beginning that Maobama is little more than a well-spoken moron.

32 posted on 03/15/2012 4:50:01 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: nhwingut
Obama Mangles U.S., World History In Energy Speech

I don't expect Hussein to know US History. He is, after all, a foreigner.

33 posted on 03/15/2012 4:51:32 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: 240B

“Regardless of all the unproven, unverified, undocumented, ‘claims’ of his great education, the things he does and especially the things he says are just plain stupid.”

He is an affirmative action token, nowadays a common fixture in many workplaces.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 4:53:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: nhwingut

Obama lives in a TBR world. - “Teleprompter Based Reality”


35 posted on 03/15/2012 4:57:02 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 240B

36 posted on 03/15/2012 5:34:01 PM PDT by fanfan (This is not my Father's Ontario. http://www.ontariolandowners.ca/)
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To: All
Obama trying to write in English

Hey guys, check this link from the thinker. Obama cannot even write proper English. Not surprising to me personally. I fully believe he was raised and educated in some Muzzie country somewhere. Anyway, the article skewers Obama's purported 'intelligence'.

The guy is as dumb as a rock about America, English, History, Geography, or anything else really, except maybe where you can score the best Coke while in D.C. Oh, and he knows how to quote Islamic prayers in Arabic.

Other than that, the guy is useless. He couldn't hammer a nail to save his life.

37 posted on 03/15/2012 6:24:58 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: nhwingut
I wonder who comrade obama got to do his history, arithmetic, science, and geography exams for him in his special-ed classes.



38 posted on 03/15/2012 7:06:07 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: ilovesarah2012

He’s trying to ridicule Gingrich, but at the same time taking his cue from Gingrich’s space speech (which of course he, all the Dems and Romney and Santorum ridiculed at the time) where Gingrich discussed Kitty Hawk and the Wright Brothers.

But of course, he missed the important points: the Wright Brothers were not part of the government, and the US government did not destroy the railroad or automobile industry in order to promote some new technology.

It was private inspiration, and the government maintaining a tranquil, honest society where entrepreneurs could compete that enabled us to take flight.

Barry is such a dim bulb. And Gingrich is the only one who has gotten into his head and the only one he feels he needs to fight against (in his own dim way).


39 posted on 03/15/2012 7:13:37 PM PDT by livius
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To: Hunton Peck
I wish I could remember which FReeper had a tagline quoting Abe Lincoln complaining about people making up quotes to use as internet taglines.

I've seen this Lincoln "quote" (sorry, source unknown):

“You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time. To fool all of the people all the time, though, you need to post it on the internet.”

40 posted on 03/15/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by Bob
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To: livius
The personal computer, which has had as much or more impact on the world as the airplane, was also developed privately.

I am not sure that scenario could happen today. You would be required to partner with the government somehow. And, to sell the product you would need a blizzard of licenses and bureaucratic approvals of all sorts. It would be crazy.

I do not really know if it was the specific intent of government to stifle private ingenuity and invention, but they have done so.

When the government gets out of the way with all forms of intrusions, taxes, licenses, etceteras, entrapanutship thrives. The more government interference in the private sector, the less that this sector will produce.

Atlas does indeed shrug.

Leftists and children cannot comprehend this. As a result of whatever childhood trauma or indoctrination they endured, they believe that even if you take all the money from a guy who works, invents, and produces, he will still continue to work, invent, and produce. The don't understand that eventually the money will stop. It is like trying to explain basic life skills to children.

41 posted on 03/15/2012 7:31:55 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: GSWarrior

Hopefully due to a bad altimeter setting.


42 posted on 03/15/2012 9:09:54 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: nhwingut
The One problem with Obama is that his speech writers and advisors are all MORE STOO-PID than he is.

'In 1492 when Columbus sailed the ocean blue' .. all Educated people KNEW the Earth was %#$&ing round, Barry -- you friggen moron!

And fyi brainiac, 'the argument against Columbus' was with his numbers, not his idea. As they say, 'He cooked his books' as to the time it would take to sail to Asia by going West. And 'they' were right as ole Chris didn't even make it half way - distance wise - now did he.

And mr 'science' you're also wrong about President Hayes. Big surprise, not. You haven't been correct about anything since you and Bigfoot started squatting in the White Hut so why start now.

btw, After you get your butt kicked in November do everyone a favor and release ALL your HS and ALL three of your College Transcripts; Occidental, Columbia and 'Haaaaavad' Law School. We could use another good laugh.

Oh and for some real snix a PET Scan of your brain -- it'll show the kiddies the dangers of drug use and permanent damage it WILL DO.

43 posted on 03/16/2012 6:02:36 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: max americana

This is Mr. Hayes and he came from the state of West Fantasy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7koigiUq7GE


44 posted on 03/16/2012 6:38:39 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: nhwingut

So many errors in such a small span of time. It’s a good metaphor for Barry & his presidency.


45 posted on 03/16/2012 6:43:11 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: nhwingut

He’s not just mangling U.S. history . . . he’s mangling the U.S.


46 posted on 03/16/2012 7:13:14 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Rurherford B. Hayes had a telephone installed in the White House. But since he was a Republican he can be ridiculed.


47 posted on 03/16/2012 7:48:32 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: lu shissler

Agreed! NO ROMNEY!


48 posted on 03/16/2012 8:24:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: nhwingut

I am so looking forward to the day when we no longer have to put up with this pos arrogant marxist excuse for a President.


49 posted on 03/16/2012 8:24:56 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: 240B; All

The article at American Thinker links over to http://hlrecord.org/?p=11263

In that letter, it states that Soetero would become the second Harvard Law School graduate - AFTER Rutherford B. Hayes - to be elected POTUS.

Interesting that he chose to take a jab at President Hayes in his speech, since Hayes was the FIRST Harvard grad to become President.

From a Wikipedia entry (I know, I know, Wiki...but it’s accurate in this instance):

“...Wounded five times, most seriously at the Battle of South Mountain, he earned a reputation for bravery in combat and was promoted to the rank of major general...”

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutherford_B._Hayes

Hayes was also the Governor of Ohio, three times.

Once again...Barry takes a shot at a far better and far braver man than he’ll EVER be.

He is, at the end of the day...a very, very small man, indeed.


50 posted on 03/16/2012 9:58:44 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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