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The Go-Nowhere Generation Speaks: 'I'd Love to Move, but I Can't' (More "sob stories" from Gen Y)
The Atlantic ^ | March 15, 2012 | Derek Thompson

Posted on 03/16/2012 7:48:14 AM PDT by C19fan

Here's what we know about moving in America: We're not doing it like we used to. The share of single people and families moving between states is the lowest in half a century.

But why? We cannot hope to know why 150 million households -- or 300 million Americans -- choose to move or not move across the country to find a new job or to make a new start. There are too many variables to name. But we can start to count them: Jobs play a role. Income plays a role. Affordable housing, and good schools, and cost-of-living, and urban culture, and space -- all these play a role.

When we wrote about this "go-nowhere" trend in our article Generation Stuck, we received hundreds of responses from movers and non-movers across the country. Our first batch focused on the the movers. This collection of reader testimonials focuses on the non-movers, but listens to the movers, too. Keep writing.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: generationy
More whining from Generation Y. I'm a Xer and for my first private sector job I packed my Honda CRX and drove across country from NY to Los Angeles mostly on I-40. (Beautiful drive). Stop the whining and pull up your pants losers.
1 posted on 03/16/2012 7:48:17 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

They can’t move because Mommy’s basement is comfy.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 7:56:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: C19fan

SOmetimes in order to move one has to down size. Over the years with the various moves I have made, I can carry most everything in my car. I do have books that I pack and drop ship to my new location but it does not cost all that much. I learned to do this while in my twenties. As I get ready to retire and move to be closer to my daughter, I am glad I have little to hold me here.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 7:56:58 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: C19fan
'I'd Love to Move, but I Can't'

I'm glad the pilgrims, pioneers and 19th and early 20th century immigrants didn't have that attitude.............

4 posted on 03/16/2012 7:58:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: C19fan

Sitting back scorning the people you bore. What the f? are you?


5 posted on 03/16/2012 7:59:25 AM PDT by allmost
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To: C19fan

I have noticed the same thing. I think a lot of people are afraid to be stuck even further away from family and support networks when this faux-recovery falls apart.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 7:59:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Here’s the problem.

A relative of mine was telling me of her job search back when she graduated high school (1950).

She got two good job offers. One from a railroad company, one from a steel company. Both paid good money and offered chances for advancement.

Where are those jobs now? The railroad is but a shadow of what it once was. The manufacturing jobs are mostly gone, gone to China.

The opportunities that my relative had simply do not exist today.

Generation Y was betrayed. Betrayed by stupid politicians and greedy unions.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 8:04:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: C19fan; All

But...
But...
Chicks dig guys still living in mommy’s basement, right??


8 posted on 03/16/2012 8:05:48 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: C19fan
Reason Number 1:

THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS TO MOVE FOR!

WHERE THERE ARE JOBS (NORTH DAKOTA) PEOPLE ARE FLOCKING TO THEM!

They are not moving to North Dakota for the weather!

9 posted on 03/16/2012 8:09:31 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ScottinVA

And, the price is right.

When I first moved out of my parents’ home, I didn’t live in the lap of luxury (I still don’t) but I accepted responsibility for myself and I had my privacy.

I did without a lot of ‘things’ and conveniences, but I made my OWN way... like you’re supposed to do if you are a mature individual!!

I suspect a lot of these immature and spoiled idiots wouldn’t know how to set themselves up on their own... maybe they wouldn’t even know how to read a rental lease, pay for insurance, have utilities laid on....etc.

ALSO, and I think this is the real key, they are way TOOOO attached to their BS luxuries... like, cell phones, 500 chanels on the TV, mom’s and dad’s insurance, spending all their disposable income on beer, movies, cool clothes, a ‘night out’... EVERY night...etc.

You have to cut corners somewhere if you want to be independent. They don’t want to prioritize and save for what is important. They can’t learn how to do without their ‘toys’ and silly fun until they can afford it!


10 posted on 03/16/2012 8:15:51 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: ScottinVA

I heard on the radio just this morning, that 30 percent, yes; 3 out of 10, of people 24-35 years of age, live at home with parents. Unbelievable.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 8:17:25 AM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy; Newt or Rick must win the nomination.)
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To: C19fan

If any of these kids are willing to weld, learn to be a CNC operator, or become a machinist there are large numbers of companies here in WI that would hire them in a hear beat if they were willing to do the work. We don’t have a shortage of jobs, we have a shortage of willing workers.

Not only be hired, but often starting wages above 50,000/year. Cost of living in many of these small towns is miniscule and their loans could be paid off a hell of a lot quicker than sitting in Mom’s basement decrying not finding something in their field of work.

People are leaving every day for the greener pastures and tough work of oil patch jobs in North Dakota and these kids are complaining about social scenes and having to start over.


12 posted on 03/16/2012 8:21:05 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: SMARTY

Some, not all. My 19 year old works full time, is being groomed for management, rents a room in a friends house, is trying to save and replace her bomb-car, pays for her own health insurance, is paying off her one year of college loan, and has been able to save for a mission trip to Nicuragua. She is trying to figure out how to rent an apt or efficiency on her own, but prices are high here and I expect she will need to go into a roommate situation.

I dont suppose that anyone remembers when roomates shared the same bedroom (usually three to a room!) back in the old days.


13 posted on 03/16/2012 8:22:07 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: ScottinVA
They can’t move because Mommy’s basement is comfy.

Not to mention the free Internet access they get courtesy of Mommy & Daddy. How else would they be able to spend countless hours "friending" and "liking" everything and everyone of Face-crook???

14 posted on 03/16/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by ssaftler (Obama 2008: "Hope and Change" Obama 2012: "Excuses and Blame")
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To: no dems; All
I heard on the radio just this morning, that 30 percent, yes; 3 out of 10, of people 24-35 years of age, live at home with parents. Unbelievable.

I'm thinking we might be able to attribute this to the drug culture. A lot of healthy, young bucks who have fried their brains on drugs are now diagnosed as "bi-polar" and are drawing, what they call, a "crazy" check every month from the Government.
15 posted on 03/16/2012 8:22:28 AM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy; Newt or Rick must win the nomination.)
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To: no dems

Property taxes have driven rental prices thru the damn roof in areas like New England...add in the costs of heating oil, and it is tough when trying to get started...


16 posted on 03/16/2012 8:25:07 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: C19fan
As much as I balk about the attitudes of GenY, I can understand that one. I scrape by for the money I have since I own my business. Would I move for a better job? Yes. Would I move without a job offer in hand? No. If I'm moving cross country, I better have a $60,000 offer waiting for me since I'm giving up my old networks.
17 posted on 03/16/2012 8:25:33 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Jim from C-Town
THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS TO MOVE FOR!

Exactly! Those folks who look down at the unemployed/underemployed really amaze me.

So there's no work in your city? Well, you should move to another city, where there is no work also.

It reminds me of the saying attributed to Marie Antoinette. When told that the peasants had no bread, she sniffed and replied "let them eat cake."

19 posted on 03/16/2012 8:29:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: C19fan

I don’t mind generations living together. In fact, it makes sense. Built-in babysitters. Companionship. Saving money. It also teaches humility and sacrifice. There’s a reason why Catholic religious live in community.

If that doesn’t interest anyone, then remember that socialists hate this kind of living arrangement. Strong families are the best bulwark against the omnipotent state.

The only negative regards lazy young men.”Those who won’t work, shouldn’t eat.” Sometimes they have to be kicked out, as a last resort.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 8:29:56 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: C19fan

In all fairness to GenY, they’ve been completely screwed over by their greedy, gimme-gimme parents, who’ve put the US in an unsolvable debt crisis and chased millions of jobs out of the country.

It was easy for me to pack up and leave CA for Seattle in 1990 because I knew I’d find a job.

Would I do it today? I don’t think so. Not with what’s been done to the economy.


21 posted on 03/16/2012 8:32:08 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Burning the Quran is a waste of perfectly good fire.)
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To: C19fan
'I'd Love to Move, but I Can't'

I'd like a Viking 70 but I can't afford it.

22 posted on 03/16/2012 8:32:49 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: C19fan

I, too, am an Xer who has more than once purged his belongings and hit the road for a brighter future. I have been fortunate that these choices (coast to coast, two round trips) have been worthwhile.

But I wouldn’t exclude our generation from a fair share of those sticking to the safety of their hometowns. When I return “home” to where my father lives, I am struck by the number of former friends and classmates who haven’t moved more than 5 miles from where they lived as teenagers. And I’m not talking about rural America, but a rather large and prosperous suburb of a mid-size metropolitan area.

I was one who got the diploma and sought to explore new worlds (seek out new life...) But I believe the large majority of our generation (if my experience is representative) opted to stay close to home. To each his own, I guess.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 8:36:42 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: C19fan

I don’t see why one would just “want to move,” without a reason - such as a job offer - to go a certain place. We moved often when I was growing up because my father was in the Navy. Then my husband, children, and I moved six time in eight years. (Migrant IT work.)

However, nearly my parents nor my husband and I ever said, “Hey, let’s move to Cleveland! I hear it’s great!” and went. We moved because it was required. It seems to me that the time for a move far away from parents’ home is when you choose a college. That way, you’re in place when you apply for jobs after graduation. My parents lived in Virginia Beach, and I went to college in San Antonio, and then lived and worked there for six years after graduation.


24 posted on 03/16/2012 8:43:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh, good Lord. Pat.)
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To: no dems

I heard on the radio just this morning, that 30 percent, yes; 3 out of 10, of people 24-35 years of age, live at home with parents. Unbelievable.

________________________

That means 70 percent do not. figure 5 to 10 percent is disabled or mentally ill, and it knocks figures down to 20%.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 8:43:03 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: no dems
I heard on the radio just this morning, that 30 percent, yes; 3 out of 10, of people 24-35 years of age, live at home with parents. Unbelievable.

That is the Euro model. They can remain Professional Students well into their 30's (see: Sandra Fluke), and all of their housing, health care, benefits, etc. are covered. Then life becomes all about scrounging enough cash for recreation.
26 posted on 03/16/2012 8:44:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger
My family went to the far West in the 1840’s, the biggest problem was Oxen expensive and hard to find. According to a statement in a family history most were untrained cows.
27 posted on 03/16/2012 8:53:13 AM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: C19fan

I think young people have things backwards by expecting opportunity in large urban areas, and they have not been well served by their educators as we know.

I have learned that small towns and rural areas do have jobs for competent people, and competency is at a premium in small rural towns. The people are much nicer than in the big cities, and the living is less expensive.

Exurbs, young people. That’s your future.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 9:05:29 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Little Bill

I guess the Donner Party ran out of oxen...........


29 posted on 03/16/2012 9:05:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: Dewreck
Obviously posted by a member of the most wealthy pampered generation this world has ever seen...a member of the baby boomers. It’s fun being an old crank...however, that doesn’t make the vitriol spewed in any way accurate to what the facts may be.

I am a baby boomer and was never pampered. I served my country in time of war, went to college on the GI Bill, worked in the oil and gas industry and relocated all over the country, paid my taxes, voted and obeyed the law. I lived within my means and saved enough money to retire early and comfortably. So you can take your attitude and shove it.

30 posted on 03/16/2012 9:06:56 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: C19fan

As soon as she graduated from university my hard-driving, go-getter, conquer-the-world daughter spent a summer at home working 70-hour weeks at her former summer job and saving the money. Then she took what she called a “big girl” job with a company which is about 3 hours away if the weather is good, and forever if it’s not. She loves her job, but the whole family is all regretting the distance and we all wish she had been able to find a job closer to home. Slogging back and forth to see each other is very expensive and difficult. Mailing stuff is a pain in the neck. We don’t have each other’s help and hands-on support when needed.

This is why I discourage people from going to college too far away from home. It breaks up the traditional family system on which this country was built.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 9:11:22 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Dewreck
My parents were boomers. They are relatively wealthy now, but that wasn't always the case. Dad worked since he was ten years old to help support his family, and often worked two or three jobs.

Gen Y's a lot more pampered than the boomers or my own Gen-X.

32 posted on 03/16/2012 9:14:55 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: C19fan

Hmmm. Maybe the government should pay for it. It could be an add on payment to the contraception subsidy.


33 posted on 03/16/2012 9:35:53 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Leaning Right
The manufacturing jobs are mostly gone, gone to China

They are gone to automation and insane productivity gains. China does make things at a lower cost, to be sure, but the days of "high wage manufacturing jobs" are pretty much gone. Making stuff is just too easy. And yes, there are exceptions, but not generation-supporting exceptions.

34 posted on 03/16/2012 11:22:09 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

“They are gone to automation and insane productivity gains. China does make things at a lower cost, to be sure, but the days of “high wage manufacturing jobs” are pretty much gone. Making stuff is just too easy. And yes, there are exceptions, but not generation-supporting exceptions.”

The 3D printers are going to add dramatically to the automation of manufacturing. You are correct in your assertion that the high wage manufacturing jobs are gone.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 12:02:33 PM PDT by buffaloguy (uab.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I think a lot of people are afraid to be stuck even further away from family and support networks when this faux-recovery falls apart.

My word. Can anyone even imagine what the pioneers would have said about this kind of infantile dependency? sheesh.

36 posted on 03/16/2012 6:46:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MNlurker
Forget North Dakota. There are welding and truck driving jobs going begging in Cleveland Ohio f'r crissakes.
37 posted on 03/16/2012 6:50:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: who knows what evil?
rental prices thru the damn roof in areas like New England...add in the costs of heating oil, and it is tough when trying to get started...

There is a huge natural gas boom less than a day's drive away in Pennsylvania and Ohio. What are you waiting for?

38 posted on 03/16/2012 6:53:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Darren McCarty
If I'm moving cross country, I better have a $60,000 offer waiting for me since I'm giving up my old networks.

Well what good are your "old networks" doing for you now? "scraping by?" Good luck on that 60K guaranteed job. Hope you don't freeze in the dark waiting for it to appear.

39 posted on 03/16/2012 6:57:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SVTCobra03
It is a part of the "new victimology" that the slackers blame their elders for the fact that they never bothered to acquire useful skills and keep themselves up to date. Apparently, being spoon fed is an expectation of the twentysomething generation, and expecting hard work + delay of gratification is seen as a crime against the people.

I wonder how many of these amazing doodlebugs ever considered the military...

40 posted on 03/16/2012 7:05:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

I’m a temporary refugee from Tennessee...hope to get home before TSHTF. I was referencing all the twenty-somethings around here who live their parents because rents are KILLER.


41 posted on 03/16/2012 7:07:29 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Mr. Bird

My 5 kids were raised in a prosperous city also but only one can afford to live there.

The others would love to be able to do it.

Only one left the state,though.

To each his own.


42 posted on 03/16/2012 7:26:10 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: who knows what evil?

it is tough when trying to get started...
_____________________________________________________________
I understand, but, still “trying to get started” at 35??? What’s wrong with this picture?


43 posted on 03/17/2012 5:04:11 AM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy; It's gotta be Newt or Rick, and it's not looking good for Newt.)
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To: Mears; All

I know is some cultures (like in the Philippine Islands), it is NOT unusual to see 4 Generations living under one roof.


44 posted on 03/17/2012 5:22:06 AM PDT by no dems (No RINO-Rom, no Kook-Daddy; It's gotta be Newt or Rick, and it's not looking good for Newt.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

“THERE AREN’T ANY JOBS TO MOVE FOR!”

Then start your own damned company! Where is it written that comeone else must feed you??


45 posted on 03/17/2012 2:44:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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