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Former Rutgers student convicted in webcam case
AP ^ | 3/16/12

Posted on 03/16/2012 9:10:02 AM PDT by Williams

NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — A former Rutgers University student accused of using a webcam to spy on his gay roommate's love life was convicted of all counts Friday in a case that exploded into the headlines when the victim of the snooping committed suicide by throwing himself off a bridge.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gay; homophiles; homosexualagenda; rutgers; spying; webcam
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To: Hodar

Nonsense hodar. http://www.nbcs.rutgers.edu/newcomputers.php is what the university told Ravi to do.


21 posted on 03/16/2012 9:26:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Williams
I agree. I don't see how invasion of privacy in this case could be used to toss him jail. Also, it was the 'peepers' room as well.

I wish we only were dealing with double-standards these days...

22 posted on 03/16/2012 9:27:04 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Williams
"But 10 years in prison for spying on your roommate just because the roommate was gay? A terrible miscarriage of justice."

Maybe he should have written an investigative journalism article and sent it with pictures to a tabloid exposing sex open house practices at Rutgers.

23 posted on 03/16/2012 9:27:04 AM PDT by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Coronal

I am not totally against the ten year sentence.

In a very real way he is somewhat responsible for a persons death.

Admittedly the person wasn’t packing a full sea bag to begin with, but he had the right not to be exposed in this manner.


24 posted on 03/16/2012 9:27:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Actually, I now see he was NOT convicted of the “hate crime”. Looks like the jury got this one just right. Good job.

Hopefully, he will deported after his sentence is served.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 9:27:16 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I was in that young man’s situation. In my case, I hadn’t done anything, but because of where I was, it was assumed I had done something and throughout my junior high and high school, there were individuals totally committed to my humiliation, ensuring that everybody possible knew about a rumour and using it against me whenever possible, so I know that is like.


26 posted on 03/16/2012 9:27:31 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Williams
I was listening to the verdict being read on TV earlier, and it didn't sound to me that he was convicted on all counts.

I'm not a legal expert, but it appeared that the jury drew a distinction between counts that alleged he had the intention of committing the act due to bias vs. counts that maintained the victim had reason to believe that he was singled out due to bias. He was convicted on some counts reflecting the latter, but not the former.
27 posted on 03/16/2012 9:31:44 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: Hodar

I do not believe this was ever widely broadcast or viewed on the web. He provided an email link to friends who could access the webcam. I believe one of the students involved mistakenly said under questioning that it had been “broadcast”.

In any event he definitely showed several students. He was guilty of invasion of privacy. The inappropriate part IMO is the “bias intimidation” charge. Technically, he probably was guilty of that as well. He may indeed have watched bc the sex involved was gay though there was very little evidence of that. IMO that in itself should not be a more serious crime.

There was no evidence he disliked gays or his roommate. Let’s say I spy on my (female) roommate because she has big hooters. Should there be a more serious crime for bias intimidation against well endowed women? The bias crimes are liberal fantasy land crimes, and certainly in this case where there was no hatred or anger involved.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 9:33:21 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams

“By illustration, if your kid is spyed on having sex but they aren’t gay, this level of “protection” is not afforded them. Nor does the “spy” face ten years in prison.”

There should be a class-action lawsuit, against the state of New Jersey, from all the other victims of invasion of privacy in Neww Jersey, on the Constitutional basis of “equal protection” of the laws.

That suit should lead to dismatling New Jersey “hate crimes” as nothing other than unconstitutional thought crimes where mere motive becomes a crime in itself but not even in all cases of the same crime.

The original victim was a victim of deliberate invasion of privacy. The defendant in the case is now the victim of an unconstitutional thought crime.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 9:36:36 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Jonty30

Agreed. Awful what happened here.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 9:38:31 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

TY for the clarification. I agree he probably was technically guilty because he seemed to be more interested in spying because the sex involved was gay sex. BTW from all parts of the trial I watched, they never saw this roommate having sex. They saw him with his shirt off and possibly a kiss. Whether they were all being honest, the witnesses all claimed they turned it off within seconds.

Still my objection is to the law itself and to the possibly high sentence. This defendant really is being prosecuted for the victim’s subsequent suicide, which is tragic but not legally chargeable.

Stupid college kids screwing around, tragic consequences and lives ruined. Not really stupid, many pre med students.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 9:38:31 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Jonty30

>>>I agree. Ten years is far too long and it should have been handled internally with the university.

The more appropriate punishment is being thrown out of the university and have it on his record.<<<

I hope you forgot the /sarcasm tag.

What he did was clearly a serious crime, not merely a violation of university rules, like copying his roommate’s term paper or drinking on campus.

How would you feel if someone planted a webcam in your bedroom and secretly videotaped you having sex with your spouse and then broadcast it to others?

I’m not sure it warrants 10 years (and I think the 10 years would only be in play if he had been convicted of the “bias crime”), but it definitely warrants jail time.


32 posted on 03/16/2012 9:38:42 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (.)
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To: NativeSon
I agree. I don't see how invasion of privacy in this case could be used to toss him jail. Also, it was the 'peepers' room as well.

Apparently you were not aware of the Web-cam that was used to record the encounter, and the internet postings of that encounter, followed by mass emails to students directing them to the video.

Peeping Tom is one thing ... what he did was something completely different.

Compare this to someone secretly recording you and your wife during an intimate interlude, editing it, posting it online; then sending a mass email directing your co-workers, friends, family members, neighbors and anyone with a mind to see, to go watch with a web-link to the video. Cabish?

33 posted on 03/16/2012 9:38:45 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: DBrow
I think there have been pervs caught wiring a bathroom or bedroom with a cam and putting videos of girls changing online, but I don’t know what the sentences have been.

An illegal alien in Hartford, CT was conviced last year of recording videos of women in bathroom stalls. Sentence: 18 months, with early release for good behavior. If h had done it in a gay bar? 50 years? Disgusting verdict today. "Gay" is the super-protected class of the new millenium.

34 posted on 03/16/2012 9:39:48 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Jonty30

“but absolutely humiliating somebody like that was absolutely uncalled for and I support the conviction.”

Public officials in CA did nothing to stop a perverted homosexual student from absolutely humiliating a heterosexual student in public. In fact these public officials openly encouraged the perverted homosexual student to do that. This was after the heterosexual student asked the public officials to stop this homosexual sexual harassment. When no public officials would not help this heterosexual student. The student killed the perverted homosexual. The state of CA then tried to charge the heterosexual student with a hate crime!


35 posted on 03/16/2012 9:45:15 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Williams

So, your defense is the ‘level’ that this event was broadcast?

The fact that the webcam was secretly placed in the room, where the roomate had a legitimate expectation of privacy is irrevalent? The fact that his actions were recorded without his knowledge or concent are irrevelent?

The intent was to hurt and humiliate as much as possible. In this, he was wildly successful - now it’s time to pay the price.


36 posted on 03/16/2012 9:48:37 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Williams

This entire story is tragic for everyone involved, but I’m not sure why they bothered with a court trial. The verdict was a foregone conclusion.


37 posted on 03/16/2012 9:48:37 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Williams

Does ten years in prison mean 9 actual months in jail? A woman here in Houston who stood by while her boyfriend (not even her baby daddy, just her current live in) molested then killed her 3 year old daughter. She got 20 years in prison and is up for parole.... after less than 2 years served.


38 posted on 03/16/2012 9:48:37 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Congress touched me inappropriately, they should be put on administrative leave immediately)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

I wasn’t sure if it was a criminal case or not.
I don’t have the problem of it being so.

But ten years still seems too much. I think 3 years is more apropriate.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Williams

The universities need to get out of the housing business. Let the market provide housing. How would you like to be an apartment owner trying to compete with taxpayer funded dormitories? The universities don’t provide cars for the students. Why should they provide housing? They exist to provide education, not housing. Think of how much tuition could go down if the universities got out of the housing business.


40 posted on 03/16/2012 9:50:00 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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