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The CIA wants to spy on you through your TV: Agency director says it will 'transform' surveillance
Daily Mail ^ | March 16, 2012 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:35:13 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

When people download a film from Netflix to a flatscreen, or turn on web radio, they could be alerting unwanted watchers to exactly what they are doing and where they are.

Spies will no longer have to plant bugs in your home - the rise of 'connected' gadgets controlled by apps will mean that people 'bug' their own homes, says CIA director David Petraeus.

The CIA claims it will be able to 'read' these devices via the internet - and perhaps even via radio waves from outside the home.

Everything from remote controls to clock radios can now be controlled via apps - and chip company ARM recently unveiled low-powered, cheaper chips which will be used in everything from fridges and ovens to doorbells.

The resultant chorus of 'connected' gadgets will be able to be read like a book - and even remote-controlled, according to CIA CIA Director David Petraeus, according to a recent report by Wired's 'Danger Room' blog.

Petraeus says that web-connected gadgets will 'transform' the art of spying - allowing spies to monitor people automatically without planting bugs, breaking and entering or even donning a tuxedo to infiltrate a dinner party.

'Transformational’ is an overused word, but I do believe it properly applies to these technologies,' said Petraeus.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 03/16/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gonna have to get me some couch cammo for guerrilla TV watchin.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 10:40:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

George Orwell, phone home.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 10:43:08 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’ve fashioned a tinfoil hat for my monitor.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:28 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I find it instructional when the CIA outs their review of what they can do domestically.

The CIA is supposed to be a foreign lands agency.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Orwellian.

Literally.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:52 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Smith here ... Winston Smith!


7 posted on 03/16/2012 10:44:58 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, the tinfoil helmet is no longer enough for my paranoia.

8 posted on 03/16/2012 10:45:55 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I find it instructional when the CIA outs their review of what they can do domestically.”

Yup. The 9/11 scumbags were domestically students in an American university and domestically trained to fly planes here as well.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 10:47:10 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My laptop that my company supplied at my last job had a camera at the top of the screen frame with a little light next to it letting you know it’s in use. One day I’m working away like normal and noticed the light was on. Now I have a flap over it made of black electrical tape. I pull it off when I am actually using the camera.

I don’t do TV so at least that is not an issue...


10 posted on 03/16/2012 10:47:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Da Coyote

IN CASE YOU DIDN’T REALIZE IT TEMPEST TECHNOLOGY PROVIDED THIS BACK IN 1950S. I was one of two sailors to document this threat in Japan exposing our top secret transmissions back to the states.
Hell, at a private security guru, I would document such threats to private firms as part of my task between 1976 -1991


11 posted on 03/16/2012 10:49:28 AM PDT by spookie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

buy as much land ,live off the grid seems the only way forward and have your land full of tress covering the ground so they can;t see from above.

Yea I know far out but the way things are going we might as rip the constitution, screw the privacy, oh hang on, privacy wasn’t a certain fell done for invasion of privacy because he set up a camera in his own shared room with a homosexual who later killed himself and the left propaganda machine called the MSM thinks it’s national news.

So the Govt can watch us, got it.
College kid can’;t put a camera in his own room because a homo killed himself and that’s national news for the likes of Megyn Kelly, Maddow, Cooper etc.

What a screwed up country we are now living in


12 posted on 03/16/2012 10:50:19 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Your cable provider collects every click of your remote already.
13 posted on 03/16/2012 10:51:25 AM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: cripplecreek
"Gonna have to get me some couch cammo for guerrilla TV watchin."

LOL. And a one-way mirror to put between the couch and the TV.

Then I can watch them watching themselves...while I watch whatever I want on TV. ;-)

Foiled again, perv overlords.

14 posted on 03/16/2012 10:51:29 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And if we can actually catch bad guys with this, why are we giving interviews about it?

And here I thought Gen. Petraeus was smart.


15 posted on 03/16/2012 10:51:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The only tv I watch are the movies I rent, cash only.


16 posted on 03/16/2012 10:53:48 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is outrageous; the CIA has no jurisdiction in the U.S. and it is shocking they tout their ability to readily spy on us through consumer goods, but it isn’t that surprising considering the NSA captures all of our cellular and internet communications - this arrogance only comes at the height of tyranny.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 10:54:40 AM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: GeronL

no invasion of privacy here by the CIA they say but a college kid sets a camera up in his college shared room and a homo is caught on it having sick sex and he;s done with invasion of privacy.

There are so many wrong angles in these two issues that I can’t be bothered to post them all but to say it’;s alright for them to spy on us and come into our rooms whilst it is not alright for a kid to do a camera in his own room because a mentally sick homosexual killed himself is stunning.

What’s the betting that if this had been a jock caught having sex with a woman then it would be classed as a college prank?
Now because a mentally sick homosexual killed himself Megyn Kelly, Cooper, Maddow etc all think this is national news, why I don’t know, homosexuals kill themselves all the time as do straight folk.

The MSM can photo people and look into Sarah’s private life even move in next door and that’s alright.

Course there is a homo and a death so the queers and the corrupt MSM will try and do more laws out of this.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:55:24 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Petraeus described himself as a “Rockefeller Republican.”
How smart can he be?


19 posted on 03/16/2012 10:56:56 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: manc

It is amazing at the way they pick and choose what is news, isn’t it?


20 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:08 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: max americana

Which makes you wonder why the CIA didn’t see these people as potential threats in the first place, suggest to our president that 30,000 plus people here on student visas might not be a good idea.

They came from nation’s whose populace hated the United States and what it stood for. None the less these people were allowed to come here.

After 09/11/01, the citizens of the United States are treated to a Checkpoint Charlie at every airport. The people from terrorist states, keep coming on in.

I don’t believe our government knew about 09/11/01 in advance, but I most certainly do believe it contributed to fostering an atmosphere where 09/11/01 could easily take place.

IMO, the CIA contributed to that atmosphere too.

Nobody should be coming here from terrorist states, or even states where their citizenry loathe the U. S.

If the CIA and our government were doing their jobs, we wouldn’t be treated as terrorists when we go through airports. We’ve let the enemy within our gates, and learned absolutely nothing from the results.


21 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Petraeus says that web-connected gadgets will ‘transform’ the art of spying - allowing spies to monitor people automatically without planting bugs, breaking and entering or even donning a tuxedo to infiltrate a dinner party.”

What fun is that?

22 posted on 03/16/2012 10:57:50 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This country is done. i dread our future.


23 posted on 03/16/2012 10:59:13 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: max americana

Are you serious? You read this and you get upset because the government outs their capability and not the fact they can spy on the whole country?


24 posted on 03/16/2012 11:00:04 AM PDT by Advocatus Sancti Sepulchri
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The biggest criminals and perverts to watch are those demanding to watch the rest of us.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 11:00:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Winston Smith: “We are dead.”

Julia: “We are dead.”

Wall screen (hidden behind the dresser mirror): “You are dead.”


26 posted on 03/16/2012 11:01:03 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: DoughtyOne

“After 09/11/01, the citizens of the United States are treated to a Checkpoint Charlie at every airport.”

Truly screwed up logic. The libtards were running and screaming that Bush was “taking away their freedoms” but when Odumbo increased TSA rape-worthy checkpoints, the libtards remain silent and happy.

Liberals have always been brain-dead hypocrites..


27 posted on 03/16/2012 11:01:59 AM PDT by max americana
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I want to sell the rights of “The baseballguy show” everyone just watch me live day to day reading FR driving to work.. just like the Truman show...


28 posted on 03/16/2012 11:02:22 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

It’s hard to argue against your point of view these days.

The Democrats just flat out tell us what they want to do.

The Republicans at least lie to us about what they want to do.

The more I check the background of some of our candidates, the more hopeless it appears to be.

It’s actually shocking to see how some of these major players have lived their lives, and we didn’t have a clue.


29 posted on 03/16/2012 11:04:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In Amerika, TV watches you.


30 posted on 03/16/2012 11:05:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dang ... can’t tell the spouse about this. Will cut in on the fun in the house.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 11:07:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

For every spy app in USA the Chinese will have a jammer/virus coz they all will be made in China.
Right now Chinese have camera jammers, GSM jammers, IP jammers, WIFi jammers, ...etc.


32 posted on 03/16/2012 11:08:22 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Chinese jammers?? ?? Who knew?)
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To: DoughtyOne

i have gotten trashed for supporting ron paul on this site many times.

This article reminds me why why i support him.


33 posted on 03/16/2012 11:09:55 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GeronL

it is indeed.

We’re sitting here and a homosexual guy has killed himself up in NY City and they tell me this is big national news, HUH.

How about reporting on the American soldier who has been held by the Taliban for over a year now or how about reporting on the oil pipeline, Iran, there is an endless list but no the likes of Megyn Kelly, Maddow etc think homosexual man killing himself is national.

Of course Here is no agenda here I’m sure ARF


34 posted on 03/16/2012 11:10:14 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: max americana

I’m not trying to lay this at the feet of any president. Bush was in power too short a time for him to be the blame for 09/11/01.

None the less, he did sign on to the Saudi Arabians increasing their students on our soil at any given time to 30,000. Look what happened with only 19 of them. This isn’t about personalities to me. It’s about our government as a whole.

As for Obama being worse, who could have guessed that? I traveled by air several times with my wife before Obama was sworn in, and while I sailed right through, she was taken over for advanced screening behind cubicle walls.

I don’t appreciate being told to move on and abandon my wife while she is essentially molested on our way to a distant destination.

There’s something rotten in Denmark, when there are obvious actions to be taken to reduce a threat, and the U. S. Citizens become the focus.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 11:13:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Amazing how a 1970s conspiracy theory becomes reality!


36 posted on 03/16/2012 11:14:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m not going to trash you for supporting him, but I can’t do it.

Some things I like. Some things I never will.


37 posted on 03/16/2012 11:16:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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To: Miss Behave
LOL. And a one-way mirror to put between the couch and the TV.

Then I can watch them watching themselves...while I watch whatever I want on TV. ;-)

Foiled again, perv overlords.

ROFL - I like your style! Post of the Day Award!

38 posted on 03/16/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

and people are surprised by this why???


39 posted on 03/16/2012 11:24:15 AM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: Talisker

Thanks, Talisker. :-)


40 posted on 03/16/2012 11:25:36 AM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: Glenn
Your cable provider collects every click of your remote already.

Then, they gotta be just as bored as I am with the current batch of TV listings...click,click,click,click,click... (Are they serious? "Shawshank Redemption" four nights in a row next week?)

41 posted on 03/16/2012 11:26:54 AM PDT by moovova (Is Fluke REALLY pronounced Fluck?)
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To: cuban leaf

I disconnected the intergrated camera and microphone on my company-issued machine from the laptop’s mainboard.

Only way to be sure.


42 posted on 03/16/2012 11:29:04 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: samtheman

2 + 2 = 5


43 posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:34 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Spies will no longer have to plant bugs in your home - the rise of 'connected' gadgets controlled by apps will mean that people 'bug' their own homes, says CIA director David Petraeus. The CIA claims it will be able to 'read' these devices via the internet - and perhaps even via radio waves from outside the home. "

First off Mr. Petraeus may need a little reminder that people may be planting bugs in their own homes but they are NOT planting a WARRANT in the hands of the CIA or any other government authority.

Second, connected gadgets controlled by apps is just that. Gadgets being controlled by other gadgets. How long before "apps" will control stuff while you are away in ways that make it look like you are there? Technology can and WILL work in both ways. Years before "apps" that control things people used to set lights on timers so that they would go on and off while they were away. This made it appear that someone was home. The same thing will occur with all these apps and remote controlled devices. People will get wise and configure devices so that anyone watching will not know if they are actually home or not.

44 posted on 03/16/2012 11:33:23 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Viewing Schedule:

Monday: Deliverance
Tuesday: Apocolypse Now
Wednesday: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
Thursday: The 7 ups
Friday: IP Man

Repeat ....


45 posted on 03/16/2012 11:34:32 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: DoughtyOne

I dont agree with him on everything, but on these type of issues he is the only one addressing them.


46 posted on 03/16/2012 11:37:08 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: DoughtyOne
The CIA is supposed to be a foreign lands agency.

That's only according to the law. The FedMob doesn't care about that anymore.

47 posted on 03/16/2012 11:38:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The truth has already been known for decades. Anything that picks up a signal, can transmit one. That is why no electronics are allowed in top secret areas.


48 posted on 03/16/2012 11:38:35 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; admin
YAWN!!!!! Old news...The mods already can spy on me through my laptop screen.
That's why I never freep nekkid. :)

(Only a courtesy ping for the mods. Since I mentioned them, I should ping them.)

49 posted on 03/16/2012 11:44:47 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: ConservativeWarrior

You are right. 2 + 2 = 5 and Obama is an American.


50 posted on 03/16/2012 11:48:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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