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Supreme Court says no TV cameras at health care arguments
Associated Press ^ | March 16, 2012

Posted on 03/16/2012 11:03:17 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court rejected requests from news organizations Friday for live, televised coverage of this month's historic arguments on President Obama's health care overhaul, but agreed to release audio recordings of the proceedings on the same day.

The court will post audio files and transcripts on its website within two hours of the end of the proceedings on each of the three days set aside for argument, March 26-28.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communism; hcr; obamacare

1 posted on 03/16/2012 11:03:20 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Arguments end Mar 28...how long typically before a decision would be made?


2 posted on 03/16/2012 11:10:08 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Pray for our beloved country.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 11:12:26 AM PDT by elephant
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here it comes. The Big Takeover.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 11:15:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Good decision.

TV cameras produce drama and emotion and grandstanding. Reason and careful thought produce logical arguments and enlightened thinking resulting is throwing this monstrosity into the ash-heap of socialism, collectivism and servitude.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 11:17:09 AM PDT by C210N
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Actually I think this is a good sign. They are resisting Democrat attempts to turn this into a media circus.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 11:17:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Of course no TV in SCOTUS.

God forbid some Justice would be caught "resting their eyes".

7 posted on 03/16/2012 11:19:14 AM PDT by AU72
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To: C210N
TV cameras produce drama and emotion and grandstanding.

Hardly. My state's supreme court broadcasts their oral arguments & no one has complained about negative effects.

Count me as a person who wants more accessibility & transparency into the way government works, not less.

8 posted on 03/16/2012 11:21:05 AM PDT by gdani
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To: what's up

Probably November 7.


9 posted on 03/16/2012 11:22:42 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The supreme court has always kept camera’s out of the court, for the very reason of playing to the camera’s...but I think they allowed audio in Bush V Gore. I don’t think most justices on the SC want to celebrities.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 11:23:07 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: gdani
Hardly. My state's supreme court broadcasts their oral arguments & no one has complained about negative effects.

"No one?" How can you know that? Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

11 posted on 03/16/2012 11:24:22 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Spoken like a true bureaucrat.

I'll count you as a person who wants their fellow citizens to observe & understand government less, not more.

12 posted on 03/16/2012 11:26:13 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani

That’s two idiotic assumptions on your part. Care for a third, make it a trifecta of stupidity? You’re on a roll....


13 posted on 03/16/2012 11:28:59 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Cyber Liberty
That’s two idiotic assumptions on your part.

Well, Mr. Mensa - do you care to inform all us stupid folk how you feel about the issue and why? Or are you content to spend the rest of the afternoon clucking like a country hen?

14 posted on 03/16/2012 11:35:06 AM PDT by gdani
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To: gdani
Understanding Gov't doesn't necessarily mean having public cameras in every office. Why the SC and not others? If you opened that door, taxpayer cost to get coverage on favored Gov't agencies would be astronomical.

Your state court machinations probably aren't a circus because they don't have impact on 300 plus million citizens (not to mention foreign interests).

If there were cameras in the SC there would be so much special interest money vying to get the upper hand in manipulating public pressure you would never have trust in the SC again. Live TV cameras would be stalking the justices night and day, their families would become national celebrities, etc. etc. etc.

Better to leave the circus out of what is considered one of the most sober of Gov't offices...and for good reason. Try to put the 24/7 cameras in the Oval Office instead.

15 posted on 03/16/2012 11:38:12 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well if I were part of a small group (9) of political hacks who showed complete ignorance in the only document they are to consult I would not want that shown on TV either.

Think about it for a moment. Presidents and the party hacks have been telling us these are brilliant judicial minds yet then cannot do better than an endless string of 5-4 decisions using a very simple and SHORT document (compared to the 2000+ page legal hieroglyphs today’s inferior lawyers/lawmakers crank out) .


16 posted on 03/16/2012 11:40:31 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: TigersEye

My wife who is in the Heath Care Industry (dentistry) was telling me last night that they can no longer give prescriptions longer than a set amount of time established by the Government. This amount of time is based on some sort of average recovery time.

So lets say a patient is prescribed a 10 days supply of Vicodin, the max number of days. If the patient is still in pain on day 11, 12, 13, - too bad, so sad. The office can no longer by law refill the prescription beyond that 10 days, even if the Doctor knows by expierience that some patients need it a little longer.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 11:40:31 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If we cannot see this first hand what makes anyone think we will ever be told the truth? The media has proved they will not do it. The internet is filled with lies/distortions/half truths and just downright science fiction so yeah I want to see this.

I want to see what hoops a communist government has to go through to convince at least 5 black robed political hacks to ignore the very narrow limits the constitution places on the federal government.

DAMN YES I want to see it.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 11:46:23 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Wurlitzer
Well if I were part of a small group (9) of political hacks who showed complete ignorance in the only document they are to consult I would not want that shown on TV either.

Well put. It's a shame that some here choose less accountability and transparency over more. As if Justice Alito would become the next Snooki if televising or otherwise video recording of oral arguments happened.

19 posted on 03/16/2012 11:50:27 AM PDT by gdani
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To: NavyCanDo

IOWs the doctors are not practicing medicine anymore the government is. Doctors are simply medical technicians now.


20 posted on 03/16/2012 11:53:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: gdani
Well, Mr. Mensa - do you care to inform all us stupid folk how you feel about the issue and why? Or are you content to spend the rest of the afternoon clucking like a country hen?

Well, since you asked, I'll answer....

I don't like the idea of live cameras in the court. I think it encourages showboating rather than rational discourse. I like the action planned by the court in this case, where they release the audio same day, not live. You can hear what's going on, there is a complete transcript, you have sunlight but none of the Johnny Cochran-like trapeze acts that have harmed courtroom behavior around the country, everywhere it's been tried.

Same-day audio only release was done in Bush v. Gore, and it worked out fine for one of the most passionate cases of our day. I think that satisfies the need for complete disclosure without encouraging antics in the courtroom.

That's how I feel about it. Thanks for asking, because I was getting irritated. Whenever I hear the words "Nobody has ever complained" I have an alarm that goes off in my head because that is *never* true. Somebody *always* complains about a public decision, no matter what it is. 99.9% may agree, but that .1% != 0%. I am an engineer who works with scientists, and we're sticklers for that sort of detail. What is most likely meant is "I've never heard of any complaints."

Consider this example of what I meant by "bureaucratic:" Let's say your town decided to increase parking meter rates by 500%. You get a dozen of your friends to complain to the Town Council and you see the letters they sent. Then, at a meeting you ask them about the complaints. Wouldn't it pi$$ you off if the council members all said "Nobody has ever complained about the increase. Next item!"

You know for a fact you were just lied to in a public meeting. I feel that way every time somebody says those words, as you just did. I accept your apology.

21 posted on 03/16/2012 11:57:58 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Freedom or slavery.

It’s good they’ll allow some record to be public.

If it’s to be slavery, let the slavers be on the public record.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 12:04:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Whenever I hear the words "Nobody has ever complained" I have an alarm that goes off in my head because that is *never* true.

Sounds just like...

...everywhere it's been tried.

23 posted on 03/16/2012 12:06:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye
“Doctors are simply medical technicians now.”

Went to my Doctor for lower back pain, and after some quick normal doctor stuff, like the hammer on the knee, looking in your ears, and such, he pulls up his computer, ask me questions about the pain and clicks little boxes with each answer. At the end, it gives him the diagnoses and prescription recommendation. I was thinking, “Doc in the Box”.

24 posted on 03/16/2012 12:07:10 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: TigersEye

Hah! Touché.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 12:08:05 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: NavyCanDo

Yes, that’s a little worrisome too especially now that the government is going to program that box instead of doctors. But government destruction of medicine is the least of my worries. I firmly believe that the real purpose of health care reform is to alter the basic premise of individual rights into collective rights. A “right to health care” can only be understood as a collective right which means a state given and state administered “right.”


26 posted on 03/16/2012 12:13:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

:-) Glad you were able to see it.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 12:14:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Well, since you asked, I'll answer....

Well, since you answered....

I think it encourages showboating rather than rational discourse.

Do you have proof of such problems? Or merely speculation?

...you have sunlight but none of the Johnny Cochran-like trapeze acts that have harmed courtroom behavior around the country, everywhere it's been tried.

Everywhere it's been tried, hmmm?

I think that satisfies the need for complete disclosure without encouraging antics in the courtroom.

That's your opinion. Mine differs.

I feel that way every time somebody says those words, as you just did. I accept your apology.

No, I didn't apologize. But I suggest you don't parse my words like I'm a diplomat with the UN or Dept of State. Especially since you did the same exact thing. Really, I'm just some dude on the Internet.

I'm quite confident all (whoops, there I go again!) us stupid folks get when someone means "no one" has complained it doesn't literally mean no one who has ever lived or is currently living & aware of the issue has never complained one single bit. Lighten up, Francis.

28 posted on 03/16/2012 12:16:09 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

29 posted on 03/16/2012 12:16:46 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
Supreme Court of the United States

This would be the link.

30 posted on 03/16/2012 12:26:56 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: gdani
Lighten up, Francis.

Agreed. Have a good weekend.

31 posted on 03/16/2012 12:44:46 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ("If the past sits in judgment on the present, the future will be lost." --Winston Churchill)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I pray that this ends well... I fear we are about to see the final death of our republic.

LLS


32 posted on 03/16/2012 12:50:20 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: what's up
Arguments end Mar 28...how long typically before a decision would be made?

SCOTUS goes into recess at the end of June or the first week of July. Except in very rare situation, all cases argued during the term are decided before the recess.

33 posted on 03/16/2012 1:09:57 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Thanks so much...I was hoping someone would get around to an answer eventually!


34 posted on 03/16/2012 1:22:18 PM PDT by what's up
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