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Geraldo And Kilmeade Get Into..Argument Over Afghanistan: ‘They Will Never Evolve Into Americans’
Mediaite ^ | March 16, 2012 | Alex Alvarez

Posted on 03/16/2012 11:37:03 AM PDT by C19fan

Geraldo Rivera stopped by the set of Fox & Friends early Friday morning, where he weighed in on the future of our war in Afghanistan — and entered into a heated debate with host Brian Kilmeade in the process.

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“Are we going to create an ‘Afghanistan, California’?” asked Rivera. “What are we going to do there?”

“These are people,” he continued, “for whom the Holy Book is their whole lives, and the deaths of children is just a passing event.”

“They will never evolve into Americans,” he added after Kilmeade asked what happens when the people we’ve been trying so hard to remove inevitably return to Afghanistan. “2014 will make no difference!”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; briankilmeade; fox; geraldorivera; grimreaper; jerryrivers; muslim; nationbuilding; waronterror; wot
Broken clock syndrome because I am totally agree with Gerry Rivers 100%.
1 posted on 03/16/2012 11:37:17 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I know what you mean. I never thought the day would come when I would agree with anything that Gerry Rivers says.


2 posted on 03/16/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by Jean2
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To: C19fan

“Nation Building” —thinly disguised effort to transform the Military into a social services organization.

ditto for, “3 Block War”-crappola.


3 posted on 03/16/2012 11:44:25 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: C19fan

I don’t know, Obama doesn’t want women driving cars either.


4 posted on 03/16/2012 11:44:47 AM PDT by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: C19fan

I’d like to see geraldo get slapped in the face with a folding metal chair.


5 posted on 03/16/2012 11:46:17 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: C19fan

When the military strategy devised by a thrown-chair noseGuard reverberates in your heart....

YOU HAVE REALLY BIG PROBLEMS.


6 posted on 03/16/2012 11:47:07 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: C19fan

But the are Muslims...
We have to turn it into a parking lot,
We have to kill them all,
They are going to come here and kill us,
We need to turn it into glass,

And we need to go into bankruptcy to do it all....( I hope my frustrated sarcasm is obvious.)

Nation building is a mistake.

But they have rare earth elements. And the Chinese are going to get them all...because they will buy them. We just want to take it.

Our country is being lead by idiots and we will end up all the worse for wear. I love my country, but I feel like a parent who’s kid was found stealing. I love my country, but right now I am not proud of it.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 11:47:57 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: C19fan

I’ve asked myself the same question about Geraldo.


8 posted on 03/16/2012 11:47:57 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: C19fan
“They will never evolve into Americans,”

And neither will the invaders you so fervently support. You hypocritical SOB.

9 posted on 03/16/2012 11:48:49 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: gaijin

10 posted on 03/16/2012 11:49:05 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: C19fan

We need to start referring to Geraldo Rivera the way we refer to Donald Trump. Since we call Donald Trump “The Donald”, it is high time we call Geraldo Rivera “The Geraldo”.


11 posted on 03/16/2012 11:49:16 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Romney ruined Massachusetts. Now he wants to ruin the nation.)
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To: Vermont Lt
( I hope my frustrated sarcasm is obvious.)

Yes, that is obvious. But your point is not.

12 posted on 03/16/2012 11:50:46 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: C19fan

Neither will Whore-aldo!


13 posted on 03/16/2012 12:00:24 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Altura Ct.

Nice snag....exactly

In his mind they are his invaders

Half of him anyhow...the mustache swagger half


14 posted on 03/16/2012 12:06:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Altura Ct.

Nice snag....exactly

In his mind they are his invaders

Half of him anyhow...the mustache swagger half


15 posted on 03/16/2012 12:07:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: C19fan

Same here. The Afghans are savage inbred buttlifters who are addicted to blood, chaos, and goats..


16 posted on 03/16/2012 12:10:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: C19fan

I saw it too Gerry hit a home run, hopped over the fence, stole the ball and sold it on Ebay that night on this subject.

Kilmeade must have been snorting something earlier.


17 posted on 03/16/2012 12:13:50 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: C19fan

They should shoot for evoling into Homo erectus first.


18 posted on 03/16/2012 12:20:40 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: C19fan

500 years from now they will still be living as they did in the 7th century.


19 posted on 03/16/2012 12:23:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: C19fan; Jean2; yank in the UK; gaijin
Why does Geraldo refer to the Sergeant Hasan Karim Akbar shooting/grenade killings in 2003 as an example of 'fragging' when, in fact, it was just another Islamic terrorist attack?

Akbar, moments after his arrest: "You guys are coming into our countries, and you're going to rape our women and kill our children."

20 posted on 03/16/2012 12:26:37 PM PDT by shoptalk (Defend principles, not personalities. Personalities will always break your heart.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Eighteen years after we nuked Japan, a Japanese singer had a number 1 hit on the Billboard Charts (”Sukiaki” by Kyu Sakimoto).

If we nuked Afghanistan, I bet we could expect the same positive result!

(now removing tongue from cheek)


21 posted on 03/16/2012 12:27:33 PM PDT by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: sam_paine

My point is we should have destroyed AQ (which we did) and then left. Sticking around to try to make an elephant act like a monkey is just stupid.

We are only doing it so we can “harvest” their rare earth elements. How is that plan working out with the Saudis?

We never learn.


22 posted on 03/16/2012 12:31:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Can you provide any evidence that we are taking rare earth elements from Afghanistan?


23 posted on 03/16/2012 12:39:52 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: C19fan

For all his many faults, I have to side with Rivera on this one. He’s been to Afghanistan and has seen what’s happening first-hand to a larger degree than most.

And the bottom line is there’s no hope for people dominated by “men” whose only objectives in life are to live in the 7th century, trudge around in mud, beat their wives and kill each other.

We accomplished our military objective in early 2002, and we did our best to give those miserable creatures a chance at a better life. But we’re at the diminishing-returns stage now, and it’s time to pull our troops out. Those knuckledragging subhumans can’t be trusted not to kill our guys and they simply aren’t worthy of American blood and treasure.

So let’s bomb our way out of that hellhole if we have to and bring our troops home. Now.


24 posted on 03/16/2012 12:41:19 PM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: C19fan

Kilmeade makes Soledad look smart. Time to get the hell out of that hell hole. Anymore trouble comes out of there then nuke them.


25 posted on 03/16/2012 12:48:19 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: C19fan
Amazing! Geraldo finally got something right.

So who stirred up the Afghani muzzies? (In 2011)

From the WSJ:

"Most Afghans learned about the Quran burning in Florida only when Mr. Karzai on March 24 (4 days after!) condemned the act as "a crime against the religion and the entire Muslim nation," called on the U.S. and the U.N. to bring the perpetrators to justice and demanded "a satisfactory response to the resentment and anger of over 1.5 billion Muslims around the world."

General Petraeus has certainly won Karzai's heart and mind. /s

You would think that having our female troops wear muslim hijabs instead of K-pots would have been enough to placate them.

Here is a woman who isn't going to bow down to psychotic ragheads or pussified politicians. (click the link below)

Bacon Bookmarks and Crying in the Mens Room

26 posted on 03/16/2012 12:53:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: shoptalk

Obviously, like everyone else in the mainstream media he has drunk the koolaid.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 12:54:49 PM PDT by Jean2
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To: yank in the UK

I tend to agree with the idiot geraldo but would still like to see him spacked with a folding chair.


28 posted on 03/16/2012 12:59:45 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: C19fan

“These people’ will revert to type.

That is the only scenario. Too much has to be de programmed for them to step into the 21st century.

They will still produce/smuggle opium
They will still sell their daughters
They will still settle all/any disagreements with a rifle
They will still hate/distrust any non-Muslim
They will still change ‘sides’ at a whim
They will still appease the Taliban

They will still be poor, backward and violent. Nothing will change. EVER


29 posted on 03/16/2012 1:04:22 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: C19fan
“Are we going to create an ‘Afghanistan, California’?”

I don't know there Jerry, we succeeded in creating Mexico, California....

30 posted on 03/16/2012 1:08:13 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: All

I even think 7th century is too advanced for Afghanistan. Hell you can resurrect Alexander the Great and he would recognize the place except for the Islam.


31 posted on 03/16/2012 1:19:27 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Vermont Lt
We are only doing it so we can “harvest” their rare earth elements. How is that plan working out with the Saudis?

And Bush invaded Iraq for the Oil, right Mr Noory? What a bunch of crap.

32 posted on 03/16/2012 1:22:23 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: C19fan

(They will never evolve into Americans)

It would be nice if the evolved into human beings.....


33 posted on 03/16/2012 1:48:15 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: C19fan

I’m beginning to agree with you.

Let them live in the 8th century like they want... screw Karzi and his minions.

Do not pay for anymore of infrastructure or defense upgrades including the new air force we are buying them. Let them use sticks and stones for defense and the sun for heating.


34 posted on 03/16/2012 1:54:39 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: ataDude

I forgot one thing... when the Taliban takes over (not if), carpet bomb the crap out of them.


35 posted on 03/16/2012 1:56:11 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Jean2
to follow Geraldo’s advise would be to embolden the radicals and hasten the day of their dreams - making the streets of America look like Afghanistan. I believe it is better to deal with them over there than in the USA.
36 posted on 03/16/2012 2:22:10 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Vermont Lt

We don’t ‘steal’ oil - we don’t ‘take’ rare earth elements. We buy the crap from these loser countries. Oh and did you know that’s a communist Chinese line? About the ‘rare earth’ stuff? I heard it three years ago... If you have links to us ‘taking’ rather than ‘buying’ let me see them.


37 posted on 03/16/2012 2:49:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
Kilmeade makes Soledad look smart.

Nobody can make Soledad look smart; she doubtlessly has the lowest IQ of any TV talking head. (A close second is MIka).

38 posted on 03/16/2012 3:38:55 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: sam_paine

I am still trying to figure out why we invaded Iraq.

Shortly after we invaded Afgahnistan the “discovery” of about $4 trillion in mineral deposits was announced.

Sure we will “pay” for it, and build the mines. Sure, I guess that is fine.

But anyone who believes we are sending our troops and marines to that hell hole to give them freedom is simply naive. AQ is out of there and dispersed throughout the middle east, and central Asia.

Can someone give me a reasonable explanation as to why we are there.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 4:25:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Durus

The process of liberating their minerals has not yet started. But can you give me another reasonable explanation why we are there?

Here is a link to the announcement. I was off, it is only a trillion dollars worth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?pagewanted=all


40 posted on 03/16/2012 4:29:38 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Vermont Lt
People said we were going to take oil from Iraq too but we didn't. Maybe you are speculating wildly.

On the other hand we actually are seizing tons of opium all the time.

41 posted on 03/18/2012 2:11:32 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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