Skip to comments.Has Jim Crow Moved To Silicon Valley? Racism In The Tech World (Barf Alert)
Posted on 03/16/2012 11:50:05 AM PDT by lbryce
Racial segregation is no longer staring us down on the streets of Birmingham and Jackson. But has it positioned itself in a most unlikely locale: Silicon Valley.
Related:We Must Draw More Blacks to Tech
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Minorities are still largely absent from opinion pages, senior roles and staff jobs in the MSM also.
Maybe the media should look at the tree in their eye before judging the speck in other industries eyes.
I am going to vomit.
Where was the vomit alert.
I was just thinking about this the other day. I’ve never met a black programmer/coder/systems admin or similar.
What about the lack of White NBA basketball players?
HR will go out of their way to make sure a black applicant for a programming position gets hired.
So if some one wants a job in the computer technical field it is obvious that that is one place to go with a better than average chance of landing a job for some one with the skills.
The obvious question should not be are the firms in question racist it should be why are blacks not seeking jobs in the Technical fields? Perhaps they simply do not want that kind of job.
I know a black that got a degree in computer engineering who eventually became a reactor operator for an electric utility. He decided he did not want to do the computer thing.
See comment #1
Just about every university would welcome an even half-qualified black student. In fact, as Dr. Sowell pointed out, they often accept black students who were not qualified for the college who then fail instead of properly matching their skills with their universities (don't take someone who would be in the middle of his class at a decent state university and expect him to prosper at MIT or Harvard).
I was thinking, if I had an opportunity to mentor a black youth, I’d recommend computer science! The world would be your oyster, it seems to me.
My son has a CS major at this point, poor guy is white though, so, I guess the oyster won’t be his.
Larger companies? Sure, they want quality too, but they also have on eye on statistics. In my experience, large companies are desperately hungry to hire minority engineers. You do not need to be good. They will hire you. Minority female?? My God! Offers will flood your inbox!
Racism? In the tech world? Only really stupid people think that such a thing exists.
Apple alone is now worth $500 billion
there’s a lot of money there to pay for reparations!
There were no blacks - none - in my upper level Computer Science and Math classes.
I met two black programmers in my years of working in the industry.
Why don’t black people take math and programming classes? Obama’s half-brother has a PHD in physics, but he’s the exception that proves the rule.
Uh, you’re playing into their hands taking their claim as true.
There is a HUGE cohort of dark-skinned industry leaders in Silicon Valley. They’re called Indians.
How Indians Conquered Silicon Valley
Here’s an extract from the piece
The proportion of Indian-founded startups in Silicon Valley startups had increased from 7% to 15.5%, even though Indians make up just 6% of the Valleys working population.
Indian immigrants were standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the worlds most innovative tech workers, and were matching them in entrepreneurship The Indian networking organizations learned the rules of engagement of Silicon Valley and mastered these. For a while, these were the most vibrant and active professional associations in the region.
Why were Indians so successful?
The first few who cracked the glass ceiling had open discussions about the hurdles they had faced.
They agreed that the key to uplifting their community, and fostering more entrepreneurship in general, was to teach and mentor the next generation of entrepreneurs.
They formed networking organizations to teach others about starting businesses, and to bring people together.
These organizations helped to mobilize the information, knowhow, skill, and capital needed to start technology companies. Even the newer associations had several hundred members each, and the more established associations had more than a thousand members.
The first generation of successful entrepreneurspeople like Sun Microsystems co-founder Vinod Khosla—served as visible, vocal, role models and mentors. They also provided seed funding to members of their community.
I'm in a small start-up and the four founders are; one - a Chinese-American with a dual PhD from Northwestern and Stanford, two - an Indian with a Stanford PhD in Digital Signal Processors and the two of us have either CS or EE degrees.
This is not an area for social engineering. With us, results count. You not give a mulligan. We tried the social thing in the 80’s and that ended up sending almost all of our semiconductor EDA and process technology to Japan, Taiwan and China. Politicans gave our technology away in exchange for campaign contributions.
the tech sector isn’t like journalism or general media. members of the tech sector either know what they are doing, or get fired / washed out.
does this mean blacks can’t compete? of course they can.... if they can. all groups have the same hurdle.
hours in a classroom will NOT make you better in the tech sector. hours OUTSIDE the classroom doing self directed study / development does.
if sili valley is forced to implement quotas, you’ll just see more offshore jobs pop up.
WHAT A LOAD OF BULL CHIPS!
I went into tech just because it WAS fair! Math don't lie and isn't subjective. This type of claim is very very very racist, and portrays black people as unable to make it.
BTW, I won't go to Silicon Valley because I don't want to get "into" the California culture, I don't care how pretty it is out there.
Terell Jermaine Starr! What would a Swedish guy know about it?
flash, you missed the key factor in the indian move into the US tech sector...
indians hire indians.
oh, sorry... was i not supposed to mention that?
“Why dont black people take math and programming classes?”
I have no objective data, but my observation over the course of my life is that culturally, the black family structure is a mess and the kids suffer academically and in many other ways.
The majority of the culture celebrates lawlessness and despises such things as school work. I think it’s long term fruit from being enslaved (families torn apart, men emasculated etc.) and more recently, welfare, which took away the apparent need for a wage earning father.
There are obviously, some solid black families and some black kids who go against the tide and succeed. But there needs to be a sea change.
They need to start blaming the Black “Cultural Leaders” who shove the notion down young Black male Youths Minds that “educating oneself is selling out to ther white man”....
You need to stop thinking like that.
For much of the 20th century, black folks had good communities, good schools, good churches and good families. They may have been separate -- and their institutions may not have been equal -- but the statistics are there that in terms of unemployment, marriage, childbirth,etc black people were doing just fine in modern America.
Then the Democrats started giving free stuff to anyone who could provide evidence of non-achievement. Rates of non-achievement have skyrocketed ever since.
The black culture of 2012 owes virtually nothing to the 1850's and owes a hell of a lot to the 1960's.
I’ll respond to this EVIL on the website itself later on. This crap is all part of the MSM’s agenda. Racism is everywhere is the current theme for the week/month since the “War on Women” tanked.
No, black people are their own worst enemies.
Dirty little secret: Americans are sick an blank-ing TIRED of this 24/7 racism BULL$H!!
Question: How do they categorize Indians (Hindu) whose skins are brown and who are all over Silicon Valley?
The very sad, non-PC but true fact of the matter is that too many black kids are falling way, way short of the academic achievement needed to qualify for these jobs.
Sure, we can institute Affirmative Action and give the jobs to them anyway. But then the software won’t work.
Average IQ is 100. Average African-American IQ is 85. That’s one Standard Deviation. Math is hard, it’s harder when you’re stupid. Sucks, don’t it? But it’s not racism, it’s reality. Facts are such mean little buggers.
I'd be surprised if people of european heritage make up any more than 60% of high tech employees in SV.
The black culture of 2012 owes virtually nothing to the 1850’s and owes a hell of a lot to the 1960’s.”
I have always found White, Indian, Asian, Jewish and (gasp) Iranian engineers to be very competent.
Other groups have many individuals who could excel as well.
I suspect that the reason they do not is cultural and poor parenting, mainly lack of a working father who strives to succeed and instill the same values into his children.
The breakup of the traditional family is a disaster!
The welfare state is a disaster. It exists chiefly to allow democrats to be elected. They have created a slave class who feels they must vote democrat or starve.
The education system is a disaster. It needs to cost far less and needs far fewer Marxist Profs teaching useless subjects.
Anyone who lives here knows this guy is obviously counting middle easterners and indians as white.”
Well, they are, except for any who might be Dravidian.
“Caucasian” covers far more than Europeans.
And 'black' (in the same scientific categorization as 'Caucasian') covers who?
The problem with the facial recognition system might not be due to racism, but rather to the problems with the low resolution of the camera. It would be easier to see features on a light background than a dark one.
It must be because of racism, because every Hollywood movie and TV show I’ve seen in the last 20 years features a black “computer genius.” Why aren’t they hiring those guys? Racism, I tell you. Hollywood wouldn’t lie.
“I think its long term fruit from being enslaved (families torn apart, men emasculated etc.)
You need to stop thinking like that. “
Well, I don’t know that I’m willing to quit thinking. . .I don’t offer it as an excuse.
When an entire race is enslaved for decades, I think it has some repercussions. How was the integrity of the black family, with a man providing and leading the way, maintained during slavery? They were bred, they were sold and separated, and the men were kept infantalized.
I agree they bounced back admirably well, but, they couldn’t seem to sustain it, and I think that is due to welfare and slavery repercussions. Couldn’t prove it; just an opinion.
I understand that middle easterners are considered caucasian in the strict anthropological sense, but its obvious thats not the context the writer uses here - he's clearly referring to 'white' people in the 'community activist' sense.
Exceedingly interesting link - I pull a quote from the scholarly report:That acting white is more prevalent in schools with more interethnic contact hardly passes the test of political correctness. It nonetheless provides a clue to what is going on. Anthropologists have long observed that social groups seek to preserve their identity, an activity that accelerates when threats to internal cohesion intensify. Within a group, the more successful individuals can be expected to enhance the power and cohesion of the group as long as their loyalty is not in question. But if the group risks losing its most successful members to outsiders, then the group will seek to prevent the outflow. Cohesive yet threatened groupsthe Amish, for exampleare known for limiting their childrens education for fear that too much contact with the outside world risks the communitys survival.
In an achievement-based society where two groups, for historical reasons, achieve at noticeably different levels, the group with lower achievement levels is at risk of losing its most successful members, especially in situations where successful individuals have opportunities to establish contacts with outsiders. Over the long run, the group faces the danger that its most successful members will no longer identify with its interests, and group identity will itself erode. To forestall such erosion, groups may try to reinforce their identity by penalizing members for differentiating themselves from the group. The penalties are likely to increase whenever the threats to group cohesion intensify.
Applying this model of behavior to minority and white students yields two important predictions: A positive relationship between academic achievement and peer-group acceptance (popularity) will erode and turn negative, whenever the group as a whole has lower levels of achievement. And that erosion will be exacerbated in contexts that foster more interethnic contact. This, of course, is exactly what I found with regard to acting white.
Understanding acting white in this way places the concept within a broader conceptual framework that transcends specific cultural contexts and lifts the topic beyond pointless ideological exchanges. There is necessarily a trade-off between doing well and rejection by your peers when you come from a traditionally low-achieving group, especially when that group comes into contact with more outsiders.
This one comes up periodically in one form or another. I remember when I was in college on my CSC major there was a big discussion going on in the industry trying to figure out why there were so few black people on any side of the equation, using software, making software, studying software. It ain’t racist but it is a mystery.
You got that right. Working in this industry I know it first hand.
Just hire the most qualified blacks available to design and assemble the next iphone and ipad for sale only to the black community.
Just put the NIKE logo on them.
Why argue about it?
Words are cheap.
Since 2004, Obama and the cabinet of "his people" have done everything to empower the pathologic culture, stoke the fires of race war and continue the utter failure of blacks in education.
There is much more where this came from. I used to be very connected with education policy, but it got to be just so damn depressing. The solutions are actually quite simple: small (I mean really, really small) schools in neighborhoods where the cohesion can be maintained and there is no chance for this “group” thing. It’s possible, but the unions wouldn’t like it.
So what? They don’t want to put in the effort and sacrifice it takes to educate themselves to get these jobs. So do a lot of whites and every other race. Most people don’t train themselves to be able to do a job that is highly technical.
When will I see a piece from the MSM lamenting there is way, way, way too few whites in professional football and basketball? Given the demographics there should be 70 percent white players. Obviously the NFL and NBA are raciat towards whites, by libtard logic.