Skip to comments.Obama: I'm more like Lincoln than the GOPers
Posted on 03/16/2012 3:43:02 PM PDT by Nachum
Would Abraham Lincoln be a Republican or Democrat today? President Obama seems to think he'd be a Democrat, as Obama suggested today that his green energy spending better reflects Lincoln's domestic agenda than the proposals of the Republican presidential candidates.
Obama opened his speech in Chicago today with a crack about the long Republican primary. "Apparently, things havent quite wrapped up on the other side. So there is actually some interest in the primary that we have here on Tuesday," Obama said to laughter. "And my message to all the candidates is, 'Welcome to the Land of Lincoln', because I'm thinking maybe some Lincoln will rub off on them while they are here."
The president then recalled some of Lincoln's domestic programs, such as launching the transcontinental program and investing in colleges, before associating his campaign mantra with the first Republican president.
"He understood that we are a people that take great pride in our self-reliance and our independence but that we are also one nation and one people, and that we rise or fall together," Obama said. "So I hope that while my counterparts on the other side enjoy the outstanding hospitality of the people of Illinois and spend some money here to promote our economy, I hope they also take a little bit of time to reflect on this great man, the first Republican President."
Obama invoked Lincoln to justify his spending on green energy research. "We have to make investments in basic research," he declared. "Lincoln understood that, you understand it. Nowhere is that truer, by the way, than in the area of energy . . . Now is the time to stop subsidizing an oil industry thats rarely been more profitable. Double down on a clean energy industry thats never been more promising -- solar and
(Excerpt) Read more at campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com ...
A bit of Friday levity.
Would that make Obama’s wife Mary Todd Lincoln?
Can one day go by without this man’s ridiculous and juvenile self-infatuation announcing itself in ever more absurd and grotesque variations?
he needs that like a hole in the head.
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Obama has an indentity problem.
He doesn’t know whether he wants to be Lincoln or FDR or Churchill or Washington.
Sadly, the closest president he seems to be like is Jimmy Carter.
The part of Lincoln Obama is most like came out of Lincoln some time after he ate.
He’s probably thinking more along the lines of Oliver Law, commander of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade in the Spanish civil war.
Wow, just wow
His narisstic personality disorder is getting out of control
Stalin is more like it.
Counterfeits always do that - align themselves to make one think they are one of us. He’s an imposter - he ain’t fooling everyone.
man...what a tar pit this conversation could be....
i would suggest Obama have it as his white half
Ya stark staring, raving mad freak.
Your comment totally outclasses mine, but mine -- with the ghetto slang, or at least tone -- he'd understand.
Abraham Lincoln would have declared the democrats all traitors and cowards, waged brutal war on all of them and then hung the survivors for the treasonous rats that each and every single one of them are.
Should we clue in the Prez that Lincoln would have tolerated slavery if it meant avoiding war?
Lincoln? I don’t think so. A Chevy Volt maybe but not a Lincoln.
That’s very funny. The theater is only a few blocks away. I know because I officed next door.
I commented on the “Examiner’s” article suggesting it was quite a sense of humor “O” had or he was dumber than a yard of dirt!
He’s best president ever in seven of the fifty-seven states.
OBAMA OR AMERICA, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!!
PASS IT ON.
The left loves dead Republicans. It allows them to rewrite history.
Double down on what? Further proof he's three cards shy of a flush.
He is an enslaver.
“Lincoln understood that”
Yeah, Lincoln’s research budget and expenditures for green energy set a record. The Civil War was a minor inconvenience. /s
Oh, then there’s the whole learning to read by reading the Bible and studying law books by the hearth in the firelight.
It’s all about the research, isn’t it.
He is talking about that Lincoln that used to be on “Mod Squad”.
Abe would want to send you back to Kenya, Barry.
Obama really is a DUMBO for saying what he did, considering what happened to Mr. Lincoln. (And because of his ears.) In fact, Obama is almost an anagram for Dumbo.
Can you even grow a beard?
Truly a humble man.
Abraham Lincoln was very much a person of his times - times and a set of circumstances that no longer apply today.
For one thing, the problem of slavery was supposed to be settled law by now. But apparently the taste of freedom was too much for some, so a serfdom is being re-imposed, by steady diminuation of opportunity, and the impractical schemes that are endlessly foisted upon the citizens of this country, in contravention of a body of law that already exists.
The Current Occupant of the Oval Office is, if anything, the ANTI-Lincoln. There is no thought to lift the imposed burden, but only to thrust the boot even more sharply on the throat of America, in an attempt to “teach a lesson” to those high-and-mighty Americans who think they are so much better than the rest of the world. Well, a little side-note, Americans HAVE been better people than the large portion of the rest of the world, not because of excessive ego, but because the arrangement has always been to encourage positive attitudes, not punish achievement.
Carter was an idiot, a liberal fool who couldn't help himself.
Obama is a traitor, a Benedict Arnold who is doing everything he can to hurt America. Obama could not be this stupid, it's just not possible.
Who is Obama working for and who financed him? Does his name Hussein give you a hint?
Lincoln believed in the ideas of Jefferson and warned future generations on what to do if the nation strayed from those ideas. Perhaps we might remind ourselves of the difference between those ideas and those of the current Administration:
Springfield, Ills, April 6, 1859
Messrs. Henry L. Pierce, & others.
Your kind note inviting me to attend a Festival in Boston, on the 13th. Inst. in honor of the birth-day of Thomas Jefferson, was duly received. My engagements are such that I can not attend.
Bearing in mind that about seventy years ago, two great political parties were first formed in this country, that Thomas Jefferson was the head of one of them, and Boston the head-quarters of the other, it is both curious and interesting that those supposed to descend politically from the party opposed to Jefferson should now be celebrating his birthday in their own original seat of empire, while those claiming political descent from him have nearly ceased to breathe his name everywhere.
Remembering too, that the Jefferson party were formed upon its supposed superior devotion to the personal rights of men, holding the rights of property to be secondary only, and greatly inferior, and then assuming that the so-called democracy of to-day, are the Jefferson, and their opponents, the anti-Jefferson parties, it will be equally interesting to note how completely the two have changed hands as to the principle upon which they were originally supposed to be divided.
The democracy of to-day hold the liberty of one man to be absolutely nothing, when in conflict with another man's right of property. Republicans, on the contrary, are for both the man and the dollar; but in cases of conflict, the man before the dollar.
I remember once being much amused at seeing two partially intoxicated men engage in a fight with their great-coats on, which fight, after a long, and rather harmless contest, ended in each having fought himself out of his own coat, and into that of the other. If the two leading parties of this day are really identical with the two in the days of Jefferson and Adams, they have perfomed the same feat as the two drunken men.
But soberly, it is now no child's play to save the principles of Jefferson from total overthrow in this nation.
One would start with great confidence that he could convince any sane child that the simpler propositions of Euclid are true; but, nevertheless, he would fail, utterly, with one who should deny the definitions and axioms. The principles of Jefferson are the definitions and axioms of free society.
And yet they are denied and evaded, with no small show of success.
One dashingly calls them "glittering generalities"; another bluntly calls them "self evident lies"; and still others insidiously argue that they apply only to "superior races."
These expressions, differing in form, are identical in object and effect--the supplanting the principles of free government, and restoring those of classification, caste, and legitimacy. They would delight a convocation of crowned heads, plotting against the people. They are the van-guard--the miners, and sappers--of returning despotism.
We must repulse them, or they will subjugate us.
This is a world of compensations; and he who would be no slave, must consent to have no slave. Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it.
All honor to Jefferson--to the man who, in the concrete pressure of a struggle for national independence by a single people, had the coolness, forecast, and capacity to introduce into a merely revolutionary document, an abstract truth, applicable to all men and all times, and so to embalm it there, that to-day, and in all coming days, it shall be a rebuke and a stumbling-block to the very harbingers[initiators of threatening change] of re-appearing tyranny and oppression.
Your obedient Servant
Source for this reproduction of the letter is
"To preserve [the] independence [of the people,] we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:39
"I deem [this one of] the essential principles of our government and consequently [one] which ought to shape its administration:... The honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801. ME 3:322
"I sincerely believe... that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale." --Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1816. ME 15:23
"[With the decline of society] begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia [war of all against all], which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." --Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40
Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence
let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution. (Abraham Lincoln)
The actual text (long but very relevant, posted without comment for reference):
"Resolved, That we, the delegated representatives of the Republican electors of the United States, in convention assembled, in discharge of the duty we owe to our constituent and our country, unite in the following declarations:
1. That the history of the nation during the last four years has fully established the propriety and necessity of the organization and perpetuation of the republican party, and that the causes which called it into existence are permanent in their nature, and now more than ever before demand its peaceful and constitutional triumph.
2. That the maintenance of the principles promulgated in the Declaration of Independence and embodied in the Federal Constitution, "That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed," is essential to the preservation of our Republican institutions; and that the Federal Constitution, the rights of the states, and the Union of the states, must and shall be preserved.
3. That to the Union of the States this nation owes its unprecedented increase in population; its surprising development of material resources; its rapid augmentation of wealth; its happiness at home and its honor abroad; and we hold in abhorrence all schemes for disunion, come from whatever source they may; and we congratulate the country that no republican member of congress has uttered or countenanced the threats of disunion so often made by democratic members, without rebuke and with applause from their political associates; and we denounce those threats of disunion, in case of a popular overthrow of their ascendancy, as denying the vital principles of a free government, and as an avowal of contemplated treason, which it is the imperative duty of an indignant people sternly to rebuke and forever silence.
4. That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the states, and especially the right of each state, to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depends, and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any state or territory, no matter under what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.
5. That the present Democratic Administration has far exceeded our worst apprehension in its measureless subserviency to the exactions of a sectional interest, as is especially evident in its desperate exertions to force the infamous Lecompton constitution upon the protesting people of Kansas - in construing the personal relation between master and servant to involve an unqualified property in persons - in its attempted enforcement everywhere, on land and sea, through the intervention of congress and of the federal courts, of the extreme pretensions of a purely local interest, and in its general and unvarying abuse of the power entrusted to it by a confiding people.
6. That the people justly view with alarm the reckless extravagance which pervades every department of the Federal Government; that a return to rigid economy and accountability is indispensable to arrest the systematic plunder of the public treasury by favored partisans; while the recent startling developments of frauds and corruptions at the federal metropolis, show that an entire change of Administration is imperatively demanded.
7. That the new dogma that the Constitution of its own force carries slavery into any or all of the territories of the United States, is a dangerous political heresy, at variance with the explicit provisions of that instrument itself, with cotemporaneous exposition, and with legislative and judicial precedent, is revolutionary in its tendency and subversive of the peace and harmony of the country.
8. That the normal condition of all the territory of the United States is that of freedom; that as our republican fathers, when they had abolished slavery in all our national territory, ordained that no "person should be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law," it becomes our duty, by legislation, whenever such legislation is necessary, to maintain this provision of the constitution against all attempts to violate it; and we deny the authority of congress, of a territorial legislature, or of any individuals, to give legal existence to slavery in any territory of the United States.
9. That we brand the recent re-opening of the African Slave Trade, under the cover of our national flag, aided by perversions of judicial power, as a crime against humanity, and a burning shame to our country and age, and we call upon congress to take prompt and efficient measures for the total and final suppression of that execrable traffic.
10. That in the recent vetoes by the federal governors of the acts of the Legislatures of Kansas and Nebraska, prohibiting slavery in those territories, we find a practical illustration of the boasted democratic principle of non- intervention and popular sovereignty, embodied in the Kansas-Nebraska bill, and a demonstration of the deception and fraud involved therein.
11. That Kansas should of right be immediately admitted as a state, under the constitution recently formed and adopted by her people, and accepted by the House of Representatives.
12. That while providing revenue for the support of the general government by duties upon imports, sound policy requires such an adjustment of these imposts as to encourage the development of the industrial interests of the whole country, and we commend that policy of national exchanges which secures to the workingmen liberal wages, to agriculture remunerating prices, to mechanics and manufacturers an adequate reward for their skill, labor and enterprise, and to the nation commercial prosperity and independence.
13. That we protest against any sale or alienation to others of the public lands held by actual settlers, and against any view of the free homestead policy which regards the settlers as paupers or suppliants for public bounty, and we demand the passage by congress of the complete and satisfactory homestead measure which has already passed the house.
14. That the Republican Party is opposed to any change in our naturalization laws, or any state legislation by which the rights of citizenship hitherto accorded by emigrants from foreign lands shall be abridged or impaired; and in favor of giving a full and efficient protection to the rights of all classes of citizens, whether native or naturalized, both at home and abroad.
15. That appropriation by Congress for river and Harbor improvements of a National character, required for the accommodation and security of an existing commerce, are authorized by the constitution and justified by the obligation of Government to protect the lives and property of its citizens.
16. That a railroad to the Pacific ocean is imperatively demanded by the interests of the whole country; that the Federal Government ought to render immediate and efficient aid in its construction; and that, as preliminary thereto, a daily overland mail should be promptly established.
17. Finally, having thus set forth our distinctive principles and views, we invite the coöperation of all citizens, however differing on other questions who substantially agree with us in their affirmance and support.
Supplementary Resolution. Resolved, That we deeply sympathize with those men who have been driven, some from their native States and others from the States of their adoption, and are now exiled from their homes on account of their opinions; and we hold the Democratic Party responsible for this gross violation of that clause of the Constitution which declares that the citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States."
Add delusional to the list describing Zero.
Sometimes the jokes just write themselves, but you can’t put them into print...
Mr Lincoln’s War made it possible, 150 years later, for a narcissistic President to run rough shod over state’s rights and individual liberty. The Illinois Butcher showed us the way to complete federal tyranny. All Hail the memory of King Lincoln. All hail FedGov. Union uber alles.
Actually the Lincoln "plan" was to deport "them" to Haiti and Liberia.
Wasn't Lincoln known as "Honest Abe"?
Try saying "Honest Barack" slowly five times without laughing or choking.
I don't think that you can do it.
Actually Barack rhymes better with “a crock”
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