Skip to comments.Santorum Says He Would Enforce US Obscenity Laws That Obama Ignores
Posted on 03/16/2012 10:56:03 PM PDT by Steelfish
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He's not talking about child porn. Child porn doesn't fall under obscenity laws. Child porn is the documented sexual assault of children, a whole different criminal category.
“He was unable to pull 50% in his own home state after massive ad buys and campaigning”
Carefull PA voting soon what happens if Santorum doesn’t get 50%.
What then, Do you throw Santorum under the bus?
This isn’t a national issue it’s a states issue and I’m kind of sick of all the petty BS coming out of the supposed Republican candidates.
Saint Rick needs to S T F U about these things. Stick w the economy stupid!
Have never understood the movies and their desire to have one bedroom sex scene. Why, so the queer director can look at the male actor?? The only reason I can come up with.withstand
Having said that, I'd still vote for him over Romney or Obama (sigh....roll eyes to ceiling....)
"I have no problem with kiddie porn"
"Those accused/convicted of kiddie porn have the same constitutional rights as those accused/convicted of murder, rape, or assault",
and there really are "many Freepers" who don't grasp that these positions are not the same.
1) Watching pornography triggers a very powerful brain response.
2) This brain response causes specific types of behavior patterns.
3) These behaviors have both long and short term effects on the lives of individuals, including all the suffering, sorrow and strife associated with premarital sex, single motherhood, divorce, pedophilia and the general breakup of families.
Change your 0.0005 to a 10. And realize that pornography is a weapon of the cultural and political marxists in their war against America.
The Onion says it best: “Rick Santorum Relieved No One Has Asked Him About Interracial marriage” http://www.theonion.com/articles/rick-santorum-relieved-no-one-has-asked-him-about,27630/
There are an infinity of possible laws out there which are "common sense" but none the less are not Constitutional.
If my city's library wants to set up computers in the children's section which are censored through a filter, the proper role of the Federal government is to butt out. That is not at all the same thing as saying that the role of the Federal government is to require filters in all library computers nationwide.
I quite agree.
Energy, Jobs, Defense, Fed, Obamacare, are all far higher priorities than porn.
Rick’s judgment is suspect. Out of touch with the majority of voters.
Newt certainly is dialed in.
and there really are "many Freepers" who don't grasp that these positions are not the same.
--I was informed on one of these threads few years ago that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is greatly overrated, incidentally--
I think this is a 10 issue that needs to be taken seriously. Kids are being forced to make porn, sex trafficking laws should be enforced. Why should Obama ignore the laws on the books. Santorum would become the best President in the History of the United States. I look at him as someone who would clean up the United States so much. What a shame that some FREEPERS are so immoral.
Like so many Republicans before him, Santorum has a gift for finding issues that A) elicit a collective groan from the electorate, and, B) provide fodder for the opposition.
Say after me, Rick. LESS GOVERNMENT, LESS GOVERNMENT, LESS GOVERNMENT.....(and alternate with) HANDS OFF THE INTERNET, HANDS OFF THE INTERNET....(repeat until you get it).
Energy, jobs, defense, dumping Obamacare—these are like bread and butter, paying the rent and other immediate needs like getting out of bed in the morning and mowing the lawn regularly.
But porn is like the termites which are an unseen but evil pestilence, slowly eating away at the foundations until the entire building is on the verge of collapse.
Unless we kill them first.
Wow. Vthis guy is a master of the news cycle. Next we can talk about sodomy laws.
This guy is a loser.
It must be Newt! If Santorum is the candidate, the election will be about his SERP. 2012 has got to be about Obama! the economy, STUPID! and not about morals!
I disagree with you. If people think it is ONLY the economy then the race would be only Newt and Romney. People care about social issues which is why Santorum is winning and getting the votes. People care about social issues. It is just that YOU DON’T care about social issues.
Excellent point, N Sojac. The problems come in when some ACLU types sue a local library for doing just that....establishing control over what filters are provided. Then the library, city, county, whatever has to come up with the bucks to fight this case which most of the time, they won’t have. These laws are passed to provide cover for cases like this.
There are no easy answers, but I also agree with your point about the proper role of Federal govt.
As always this is just my humble opinion.
“realize that pornography is a weapon of the cultural and political marxists in their war against America.”
He can't. There is a reason Santorum is known primarily as a social values crusader. This is the stuff he most cares about and no matter how hard he or his advisers try, this sort of nonsense will come up again and again and again in a campaign. As as a general election nominee, Santorum would doom us to a landslide defeat that would take our House majority down with it.
Worse, Rick comes across as strident and judgmental and would alienate even many Republican voters who don't want anything to do with a candidate who wants to talk about why contraception is "not okay" and why we need to wage a war on porn. The guy is a walking electoral disaster waiting to happen.
People laugh now, but Pat Robertson actually did pretty well in the 1988 GOP primaries (one of his policy positions was to ban porn), came in second in Iowa and won some primary/caucus states. He'd have been an embarrassingly bad general election nominee and obviously would have doomed the GOP to defeat, but a certain segment of social conservatives voters (over a million before he dropped out) cast ballots for him anyway. In 2008 it was Mike Huckabee social conservatives gravitated to - not because Huckabee was particularly conservative when it came to government policy, but because they deemed him the most God-fearing candidate. Santorum is just another in the same mold and winning the same core of voters. He's only lasted this long because A)he was such an afterthought of a non-Romney candidate that most people ignored him for months, and B)our frontrunner, Romney, inspires pretty much nobody and is a terribly poor candidate himself who stands for pretty much nothing.
I want Newt to stay in till the end no matter what happens, mostly because I can't stand the thought of having to dig deep within myself and find a way to rally around either Mitt "the chameleon" Romney or Rick "lets talk about why contraception is not okay" Santorum.
I agree. Rick walked into a trap.
We have a bad economy, high unemployment, cities and states on the edge of bankruptcy, we're still dependent on foreign oil, gas is sky high, we have Islamic states falling to jihadi factions, illegal immigrants up the wazoo.
And if Rick wins the nomination, all the media will play about Rick leading up to November will be this porn sound bite.
They are very keen, in knowing that Santorum will be all too easy to beat. There is a Daily KOS group that has been formed that go from open primary to open primary, with orders to vote for Santorum, to get him nominated.
This is an actual plan. Because they have so much they can destroy Santorum with, that they are holding all of it until he gets the nomination.
Santorum as our nominee, will be an utter disaster, especially after the Left hits the polls in record numbers and also votes in more Democrats for both houses.
And how are you so noble and pure that you are able to judge people this way?
As someone that has worked around IT for years let me tell you, almost everyone who says they don't look at internet porn is lying. That doesn't mean everyone views it, just far more people than you are allowing yourself to believe - and the vast majority are good and honorable folks.
Sorry, internet porn is not a pressing national problem.
I have so much more that I wish I could say about the issue but I will leave it at that. If a person has never walked in these shoes, they would never understand my opinions.
BTW, as much as I love Sarah Palin, I had the very same hesitations about her serving, too.
You should be happy he is bringing this up. You hate this conservative Christian Family Values candidate so anything he says to mess up should be a thrill for you. I am surprised that you are bashing him. You should be convincing him. I on the other hand am glad because most the voters don’t agree with your assessment as proof of his 10 state wins and popular vote.
This fact alone, is what will wreck this economy faster than all the other issues combined.
Really? Everybody who has ever read Playboy routinely goes out and rapes women in the night, after torturing them?
Dems would be ecstatic if some member of Rick's staff seriously came out with anything resembling this drivel.
If this kind of rampant, crime-inducing, sexist, abusive issue is not important to address, then what is?
The amorality of some who call themselves conservatives is frightening, since part of conservatism IS morality.
This is clearly a top priority for the next president!
Put another way, while I would not be surprised if a majority of the people who are into sadism and rape are also into porn, this is NOT the same as declaring that watching porn CAUSES you to become addicted to rape and torture.
THANK you for this!
It's alarming how many so-called conservatives are unaware that their own dismissal of moral issues is the result of the brainwashing of decades of communist propaganda in this country.
They have tried to destroy America by destroying its morals, and even among some conservatives, they have clearly succeeded.
Nobody here has been approving of child porn. Rick wasn't talking about child porn. The subject is porn involving consenting adults, and the point of many of us is that porn IS NOT the most pressing issue facing the US today, higher than illegal immigration, higher than the dangers of Islamic jihad, higher than the economy, etc.
I guess for me, these type of laws would be better held at the local level. There are quite a few laws on the books that I dont think rise to the level of government involvement.
Those activities arent what obscenity laws are for. Those are assault, coercion, kidnapping, and trafficking which are already illegal, and for good reason. They force an unwilling or unable to consent party into a harmful activity.
Yeah, I know the left is salivating at the opportunity to run against a candidate who wouldn't be able to shut about why he thinks contraception is "not okay" and why we need a war on internet porn. It would be a dream come true for the Democrats who are so desperate to avoid talking about the economy that they have already taken great pains to manufacture this phony "war on women" talking point. If the Democrats could sit down in a lab and create their most ideal opponent, Rick Santorum would pretty much be it.
Access to porn is far easier for kids today than cigarettes, drugs or liquor, and just as damaging on it’s own. What a generation, obese, couch potatoes playing video games, drinking Red Bull and watching porn.
I think that if he meant “kiddie porn” he would have specified it up front. Every time Rick opens his mouth like this it hurts him.
Pornography is a symptom of a bigger disease, it's true, but at the current moment, we have far bigger fish to fry; Like an economy on the verge of a total collapse due to out of control government.
The issue of promiscuity, etc, is stopped by parents, in the home while the children are developed. You cannot stop it after the fact. And Government cannot legislate it, or control it. (And has no business doing so.)
Look back on history at every society that has ever developed. Morality is at the very beginning of every society that grows and becomes great, and immorality, moral depravity, etc, is always at the very end, in the declining stages of all great societies.
In order for it to turn around, that society has to fail completely, to be rebuilt from the ground up. It is the way it HAS to work and especially, how it always HAS worked. There is no other solution.
The fact that Santorum believes that government can fix it, is typical of his ignorance. And is therefor, every reason why he can not, and should not gain the highest office on Earth. Anyone that clueless and misguided, deserves to lose and more importantly, should lose.
As for the 'consenting adults,' the majority of women in porn are there because they were abused as girls, or prostituted.
As much as amoralists would like to disassociate pornography from sexual abuse, it's directly related, and therefore a concern.
If Rick thinks he can get porn off the internet, he should also set his scope on ridding it of spam, viruses, and snarky liberal comments on Yahoo News.
Porno is WORLD wide, but I am sure Santo will gladly try to legislate that as well. Since he firmly believes that there should be no separation of Church and State.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
Rick understands that to "fundamentally transform" a nation, the left needs to first tear it down, or corrupt it beyond the point of viability so it can be remade in their own image.
One can complain about the pornification of the culture (including grade schools teaching children about fisting) without it defining a candidate as a “respressive” “extremist”.
I am curious about the person who posed the question to Rick. Do THEY consider it to be the most important topic of the campaign since he has not been making public speeches about it? Or did the questioner seek to make Rick define his position as being “against porn” to define his candidacy?
It’s more of the same smoke and mirrors distraction from the Left.
Dennis Miller and Micheal Berry and other center-right talk radio hosts claim that Santorum’s stance on same sex marriage makes it difficult to support his candidacy. His position is the same one that this country held for over 200 years. His is not the extremist stance on that issue. Those who would vote against him the general election over same sex marriage are the ones who would seek to define the 2012 race JUST over gay marriage.
I’m leaning to Newt so I’m not even in the Santorum boat now. Just pointing out the tactic where the Left is trying to define candidates (yet Obama was never the pro-death, killing babies outside of the womb candidate).
Didn’t NBC have a tv program where the whole gist of it was to snare sexual predators online?
What makes them run with the story that somehow Rick’s position is different that their own entrapment scheme?
That it should be A concern is not in question. The question is whether it's a good idea to have a Presidential campaign revolve around it as THE MAIN CONCERN. Because you know the MSM will make this issue be front and center for a Santorum candidacy if he wins the nomination.
Part of the President’s job is to enforce the law. If we have such laws on the books, then he should be enforcing them. And it would cut off a source of left-wing revenue, as you point out.
Access to premarital sex appears to be far easier for kids today. And I think most of the child porn floating around today, by volume, is likely to be from teen girls taking nude pics of themselves to send to their boyfriends.