Skip to comments.Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
Posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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I don't know, when dealing with conspiracy nutjobs, logic sometimes escapes them. I stumbled across the NARA website site through a google search and found the information about the Executive Orders quite interesting. So when the on-line debate about the 'secret' EO 11000 came up I was prepared. Of course like any debate with a liberal/socialist/democrat/conspiracy nutjob who can't grasp logic, the debate broke down to the statement that I'm just a neo-con government agitator trolling the boards to identify troublemakers. However, the rest of the viewing members actually stood up and pointed out I was correct.
Nut job conspiracy theory? Did you just pull that out of your hat or did you actually read the entire order and come to that conclusion?
I’m a charter member of null and void’s Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping! Read his pings to determine if I pulled that out of a hat.
As nullie is quoting on his pings today:
“Only the paranoid survive” Andrew Grove
“Even paranoids have enemies” Henry Kissinger
Rising hostilities between our beloved troops and sailors and the idiot peaceniks.
That is what I observed as well. Obama is going to need his own anti-US ‘troops’ who despise the US soldiers.
That's what the ovens are for.
It is not Constitutional and it won’t be challenged by any of our legislators in Washington. The Tea Party folks will be okay with it, too, at least the ones who get elected or appointed to anything. We are long past the point where anyone in government is working for anyone but the government.
Who actually wrote this?
thanks dmftu. I thought I’d even posted in here, but don’t find it.
The timing is suspicious.
Obama signs unconstitutional naked power grab EO late Friday night.
Mideast is heating up:
And a new moon is March 22nd— per aviator.
Don’t know if this has been picked up upon yet, as I have not read all the way through the thread when I decided to go back and start on the EO - * emphasis is mine, as are the questions marks : \
“”PART II - PRIORITIES AND ALLOCATIONS
Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President... to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders... to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders ...to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate... is delegated to the following agency heads:
(1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and COMMERCIAL FERTILIZER?! So folks can’t make explosive devices maybe? ;
(2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to ALL forms of energy;
(3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;
(4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to ALL forms of civil transportation;
(5) the Secretary of DEFENSE with respect to WATER?! resources; and
(6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to ALL other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.
(b) The Secretary of each agency delegated authority under subsection (a) of this section (resource departments) shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense, under BOTH emergency and NON-EMERGENCY conditions.””
That last sentence is why I copied all of that section... Emergency and NON EMERGENCY conditions. Why in the heck would any of this need to happen in a NON EMERGENCY situation?!
P.S. Sorry for all of the caps, but I never did graduate from HTML Sandbox, sheepish look.
Dear Lord, I am pretty sure we know the answer. Please give us strength, to fight this battle.
Agreed. We will fight back and preserve Liberty and America...No one “man” is bigger than our heritage.
Humans can last 40 days without food...3 days without water.
Sorry, was out for awhile, not ignoring you .. I sent Breitbart the headline and a link.
everyones out enjoying the early spring weather. This story isn’t anywhere not even Infowars has jumped on it yet. Probably not see anything till maybe tomorrow.
I am not sure what you are asking?
Preexisting agency is under FEMA and according to their directives are only activated during emergency, not during peacetimes.
This EO seems to be a very wide expansion of their directive. No?
Humans can last 40 days without food...
I am sure the mooch Ms. Hogly can last twice that long without food.
Like a camel, she can feed off those two humps on her rear.
My thoughts; as much as a Twinkie can have a thought, that is:
Obama came out right at the start declaring that he intended to have a “civilian security force as powerful, as well funded as the military”. - It went over like a lead balloon; people, including Twinkie, asked, “don’t we already have a National Guard?”
That comment got lost in the Obama deluge of comments over the past 3 or 4 years, and the idea was dropped. We thought . . until now, that is.
The excuse is “national defense” - ie, external
The actions all pertain to Homeland Security and US industrial production - ie, internal
Any excuse to expand presidential powers.
“I sent Breitbart the headline and a link.”
Any feedback/acknowledgement from those wonderful folks yet?
Perhaps, given the weekend to digest it and ask around, they'll come out with something Mondayish.
I read somewhere else that the timing is also 2 days into March Madness, taking attention away from the news in addition to it being the start of the weekend.
“Not as yet .. I’d surely post it here, barring their expressing a good reason not to.”
Thank you. You are very kind.
Doh, I missed the March Madness angle. And his courtside bromance with hotdog-chowing Cameron.
Actually, sometimes I'm not.
But you're welcome, and thanks !
This puts in place the kind of authority Roosevelt wielded in WWII on the logistics, commodities and manufacturing fronts.
It's putting every US Agency on notice they could be called upon to shift every incentive, every stick toward a national security goal.
That's big stuff there.
I was under the impression Clinton had one also. This one has quite the reach.
“Actually, sometimes I’m not.”
Oh yes you are. Want to fight about it? :)
LOL .. cheers
Im no lawyer, but a quick skim of this thing, looks like bambam has declared every 'resource', including the people, to now be deemed government property, at his whim...
makes the declaration of CONUS as a battlezone a no-brainer eh???
The timing is suspicious.
Yes, for me that is also an indicator.
Where he meant it of not (which I personally think he did mean it), either way he has just stirred up a hornets nest.
Remember: There is nothing to fear but fear itself.” Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Where = Whether...Sorry.
That’s my gut feeling about this too.
I’ve been saying that I think Obama has our troops in Afghanistan to make sure that we don’t have anybody patriotic to protect us here in a SHTF scenario such as Obama himself would detonate if it looks like he won’t win re-election.
Scenarios I’ve been thinking about are
1) An EMP attack by Iran launched from Venezuela, followed by Hezbollah sleeper cells rising up to take over government in Washington DC and the state capitols, as well as wreaking havoc in every major city and fanning out from there to the more rural areas. This would be the final communist-Islamist coup that George Soros and his communist and Muslim allies have been preparing America for.
2) Another economic run on the bank by Soros’ communist and Islamist allies who did the last run on the bank to get Obama elected and (I believe) threatened the media companies, eligibility judges, Congressional leaders, Bush, Cheney, etc with doing again to collapse the world economy if anybody balked at Soros’ plans to get Obama in office and take over the whole system to overthrow the rule of law.
3) Black riots spurred on by the union heads. This is the least potent SHTF scenario and is what retired military generals such as Paul Vallely believe has been threatened in order to get Congress and the Supreme Court to kowtow to Obama on things like Obama’s ineligibility.
Regarding that last scenario: Around the 2008 election I spoke to a military friend who’s in SpecOps about how the fear of riots could be controlling SCOTUS, and he said that the military is very able to handle rioting and secure entire cities if necessary. He didn’t think this was a credible threat.
But Obama has moved 30,000 soldiers out of the US to go to Afghanistan. He’s long said that he wanted a CIVILIAN force that was just as powerful as the military, and in spite of having few enough soldiers that we use wounded soldiers on 4th tours (such as the guy accused of the Afghanistan massacre) in impossible hellholes such as Afghanistan, we are CUTTING THE US MILITARY and putting women and open gays in combat situations where we can’t afford romantic entanglements and tensions. So it very much looks like Obama is killing off, defunding, and/or keeping out of the country for the critical times in question the legitimate, Constitutional military, while pushing to be able to nationalize a CIVILIAN force as he has always wanted.
Why a civilian force rather than military? Because the US military has officers who have sworn to protect and defend the US Constitution. If the chain of command came to realize that their CINC is an unconstitutional foreign enemy combatant they would have a duty to disobey him and fight his moves to destroy this country and the US Constitution.
It is no wonder that Leon Panetta disarmed the troops before being with them in Afghanistan.
Right now the continued existence of this nation may well rest on the shoulders of the 2-3-star generals who have to decide whether they meant their oaths or not, and whether their own promotion means more to them than the existence of this country for their children and grandchildren.
Crunch time. I will be praying for all of them.
what the effing eff?
Barack Obama is too stupid to have written this- who did an why?
Will this create a domectic army of ... ahem.. “Holder’s People” collecting money to walk around carrying weaposn and threatening people (same thing they do now, but for a paycheck and with government backing)
I keep hoping that if Gingrich isn’t our nominee he will have nothing to lose, then, in coming out with all barrels against the coup that’s taken place within the USA over the past 3 years.
I just hope we don’t nominate Romney, because how in the world would you defend a guy who has forced the Catholic Church to pay for/perform abortions in Massachusetts?
I guess in that instance Newt and all the rest of us would just have to concentrate on how very, very bad Obama has been - how he has carried out a coup on all the checks and balances, separation of powers, Constitution, rule of law, and foundational infrastructure on this country.... and not let anybody talk about how Romney has started the same thing with his stupid socialized medicine in MA.
Once we’ve got a candidate we need to set loose the dogs of war, to reveal to the American public the fact that as things stand right now, THERE IS NOTHING THAT OBAMA CAN’T DO. The ONLY thing standing between him and whatever he wants to do is the guns we have and our willingness to say, “You just TRY to do that. Make my day.” Because we sure as heck don’t have a legislative or judicial branch OR law enforcement or States who hold this foreign enemy combatant in the White House in check.
What was the plan to handle a foreign enemy combatant in the White House? Or a coup by Hezbollah and communist operatives coordinated from the White House?
Just curious about that.
The danger in this - as with the NDAA - is that it leaves the determination of when there is a “national emergency” (or when somebody is “belligerent”) totally up to the discretion of Barack Obama, with no checks on his power to decide WHETHER he can do stuff or WHAT stuff he can do. That’s what the whole due process thing is about; it keeps any one person from being able to kill or enslave with no questions ever asked.
We don’t have due process any more; all the POTUS ever has to do is say a person was “belligerent” and was thus a terrorist and he can have ANY ONE of us assassinated at the snap of his little fingers, no questions ever allowed to be asked.
He has the means to do it covertly so that it appears to be a heart attack (ala Andrew Breitbart) or cancer so nobody would even think to ask questions anyway. How much of the stuff in this executive order could be done without anybody ever being allowed to report that it was done because we were in some secret “national emergency” that nobody is allowed to know about? What in the law would prevent Obama from saying there is some secret national emergency TODAY, and all of a sudden Obama starts stealing food supplies and jailing or killing anybody who might report on it? It wouldn’t have to be a big catastrophe that everybody knows about. He could start doing this stuff today under the cover of an “emergency” that only he knows about.
Mark and BTTT
What does this thing mean?
“In my naivete I have wondered what happens if you are drafted or “compelled to work” but refuse. OK, you are picked up, taken to the rock camp and told to break rocks. You refuse. Then they start water boarding you or what?”
At the point where someone says,, “you are hereby compelled to work against your will”, you immediately shoot them.
Exactly. I came across this “Upon such approval, the Secretary of the resource department that made the finding may use the authority of section 101(a) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071(a), to control the general distribution of any material (including applicable services) in the civilian market.” Scary. Sounds like Germany during WWII.
Im reminded of the story where you capture wild animals by building one fence. When they grow acustomed to it, you build the second. Then the third. When the fourth wall is built,, they are trapped.
This sure looks like a fence to me. Our government is building prison walls.
Read this one carefully, two or three times. “PART VI - LABOR REQUIREMENTS