Skip to comments.Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
Posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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with a federal register that is too big to haul in a fleet of moving vans, convictions are easy to come by.
>> “ If I survive, will my cell have a window or not?” <<
In a 2’x 2’ cell?
>> “ I often wonder how they would make me go back to work.” <<
Seriously, in this economy, how many would walk off from a job?
They forgot the “E” prefix to “NDER”.
Thirteenth Amendment: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
The Constitution nor the Bill of Rights matter to our rulers.
Islamists love slavery.
I don’t and won’t.
Obummer is getting scary, because he is stupid and his handlers are smart, and powerful.
That simpleton is the world’s most useful idiot.
Some how I missed your post until now! Great stuff. Will take me some time to read it all. In the mean time, on another thread I proposed the idea of establishing a time line of known events to come. Perhaps you know of some things to add? Here is the link.
Obummer is getting scary, because he is stupid and his handlers are smart, and powerful.
That simpleton is the worlds most useful idiot.
His handlers need to be exposed constantly. Hussian is just a debauched tool.
“Obama executive order: peacetime martial law”
Can someone explain to me exactly what this means(In simple terms) people are going nuts on twitter over this, saying that Obama is implementing martial law(And next Sharia Law) and that people should start stock piling weapons..I knew one day Obama would make some law making him President for life, he doesn’t want elections to take place because he knows that he would lose. The media would love having that POS for life
It has the potential for being far, far worse that it looks.
Prepare yourself. We haven’t much time.
Hope you find the website of interest. Dates from the clinton era. The author is John A. Sterling
Synopsis: The author explores the history and development of presidential Executive Orders from the first instance of their use in American Law to the present expansive use by President William Jefferson Clinton.
In Part One, the author looks at the history of Presidential Executive Orders and compares the present applications with the principle of “checks and balances” which the framers of the Constitution considered the cornerstone of American Federalism.
Part Two analyzes the Executive Orders of Presidents from Kennedy to Clinton, with special emphasis on the recent Executive Orders issued by Bill Clinton. The reader will be able, upon completion of both parts, to ascertain whether the Excecutive Branch has been faithful to the limitations of his legitimate authority, in light of the principles established in Part One.
But what if the Federal Government, under the guise of national emergency and with nothing but the pseudo-authority of Executive Orders, were to attempt to circumvent the Constitution? Who could imagine such a preposterous thing?
Well, the likes of Patrick Henry, to name one, and other anti-Federalists of the day who raised the specter of such an event.
Madison was incredulous at this paranoid assertion and responded to such a “hypothetical” situation by writing, “But ambitious encroachments of the federal government on the authority of the state governments would not excite the opposition of a single state, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. . . Plans of resistance would be concerted.”
Madison obviously thought the idea of a runaway federal government was ludicrous! Besides, he reasoned, the state militias are armed and ready to fight such an obvious act of tyranny.
Not just one or two States, but ALL of them would certainly rise up with force of arms and resist! He rebuffed his detractors by saying, “[t]hat the governments and the people of the States should silently and patiently behold the gathering storm and continue to supply the materials until it should be prepared to burst on their own heads must appear to everyone more like the incoherent dreams of a delirious jealousy. . .than the sober apprehensions of genuine patriotism.”
This EO is a replacing of an almost similar EO issued by Clinton in 1994. Obama’s version places all “emergency” management under Homeland Security, instead of Fema. Also, Obama’s EO changes the reporting and authority structure. And putting this under Homeland security adds a military component that Fema didn’t have as strongly. Interesting to note, Bush never made null Clinton’s EO. As far reaching as it was, Bush kept it available to himself for his 8 years in office. Obama’s is more far reaching simply because of the structure of Homeland Security. Some say this is business as usual, others find it odd given the timing of the issuing of the order.
Hope that helps!
Thank you so much. Really appreciate you letting me know this. So Clinton did the same thing, but it is VERY strange that all of a sudden Obama would do this now..makes me think he has something up his sleeve, maybe trying to prevent future elections from taking place, or something else..with Obama anything is possible. Always knew he was a dictator, a marxist dictator
I know it is time consuming, but take some time to follow the links up thread. You will get a fuller picture and it will help you determine how you feel about this. The best thing we can do for ourselves it to remain informed.
This is the kind of post I DON’T want to see...very unnerving...farmer gets a visit from someone from the dept. of ecology to gps his well... check it out.
Keeping this for further reading...
Yeah I dont mind reading it, I will for sure, just some of the lingo I did not understand. You all have more experience reading this kind of stuff then I do, but boy did this news explode online, its all over facebook and twitter. Obama always pulls this crap, when he does something like this he does it in the wee hours of the night so that it doesn’t get news til Monday morning
Cross reference thread:
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Thank you; I believe that you are correct. We’ve been preparing, I suspect the hammer may drop at any time.
I believe you are correct. The trend actually extends back to either Nixon or Eisenhower. I researched it back in 2002 and it extended back to the older “Civil Defense” system of bomb shelters.
It appeared to me that it was a mechanism for each Administration to basically ‘clean house’ of previous Administration bureaucratic institutions left in place and functioning without full cognizance of the next Administration.
Back then, it probably wouldn’t have been feasible for such a large CT to be successful. The longer they linger on the books and the more accustomed the system accepts their existence, thinking they are innocuous, the greater the risk of somebody like Obama plotting to use them for nefarious ends.
Re: the ‘coffin’ boxes, they appear to be burial liners used in cemetaries to help distribute a load, and might be easily explained as a common manufacturer of plastic containers contracted by the industry in mortuary services. They don’t appear to seal from water leakage, so they wouldn’t make very good coffins.
IMHO, the more obvious risk here is becoming to complacent with these types of EOs. Congress needs to enforce their checks and balances on this dictatorial President.
". . . . courts have power to compel subordinate executive officials to disobey illegal Presidential commands." [cites omitted] 74 F.3d 1322, *1337, 316 U.S.App.D.C. 61, **76"
Another reason The Obammunist wants another communist on the Supreme Court.
Gearing up for the government-made financial collapse? You know, when there's a crisis, never waste the opportunity to exploit it...on steroids.
The definition of terms section at the end of the order gives one the picture. No question that it means to impliment martial law against the civilian populace, and the comandeering of private transportation of every kind:
“Sec. 801. Definitions. In addition to the definitions in section 702 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2152, the following definitions apply throughout this order:
(a) “Civil transportation” includes movement of persons and property by all modes of transportation in interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce within the United States, its territories and possessions, and the District of Columbia, and related public storage and warehousing, ports, services, equipment and facilities, such as transportation carrier shop and repair facilities. “Civil transportation” also shall include direction, control, and coordination of civil transportation capacity regardless of ownership. “Civil transportation” shall not include transportation owned or controlled by the Department of Defense, use of petroleum and gas pipelines, and coal slurry pipelines used only to supply energy production facilities directly.”
I had the thought that the “preservation of the nations industrial base,” being the trigger for this order, would somehow involve the larger Unions who now support Obama, and who would act to impliment this order as agents of Homeland Security.The TSA would also be involved.
This executive order reads like something from the pre Civil War era.
IMHO, it reads as wordsmithing the previous Executive Order with the modern federal department names/responsibilites.
Pray for our republic,
IOW, did it seem like most were taking it seriously, kissing Ø's ass, heading out for more ammo, etc ?
(Fb is evil, and I don't type on phones ;-)
” IMHO, it reads as wordsmithing the previous Executive Order with the modern federal department names/responsibilites. “
There’s a not-so-minor difference between Clinton’s order of 1994 and this EO of March 16, 2012 —
This is a different world, and a different America, than existed in 1994....
In the interim - since 9/11/2001, and especially in the last two years - there has been a LOT of pretty draconian legislation passed, giving the Administration (whatever Administration happens to occupy the WH) all kinds of heretofore unprecedented, and constitutionally questionable, powers...
This hodgepodge of bad legislation (in the name of ‘National Security’) is bad enough when the laws are implemented piecemeal - but to have them all pulled together under one ‘Umbrella’ EO is downright scary....
thanks for the ping and the comment, if I were to reply and tell you what I’m thinking, ‘they’ would probably come and take me away...
Thanks for the ping.
Appears on first look to be the initiation of a command economy
with Obama and his posse doing the commanding.
It means get something in 40 cal.
A little off the topic, but does anyone remember when FEMA bought 1 Billion dollars worth of body bags about 1 year ago, and nearly 140 million meals. http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/terror-threats-rising-as-fema-orders-1-billion-dehydrated-food
I am really starting to wonder. I guess I will plant an extra big garden this summer.
“War warning? “
That was my initial thought...preparing for attack.
He declared the War on Terror OVER, except for INTERNALLY, where we have people who oppose this Socialist Ditatorship/Takeover of the USA, and the last couple of "Proclamations" are to stifle ALL DISSENT WITHIN, which includes NOT being able to speak out in opposition to The Messiah, and now, we are being told he has taken over all means of production, transportation, food, monetary system, etc., via his self-appointed Czars.
We need a military coup BADLY, although since he's planted the seeds of faggots/dykes over-running the former Duty-Honor-Country warriors of the past, it better be sooner rather than later, or it will be too late to have a Military with balls.
Back, your list is too short by a bunch.
I always wonder how many have read the book. It’s not easy to come by. I’ve got two copies and a pdf file.
Hide a cache of foil and have some randomly discarded cardboard out in the open and you've got your solar oven back. Disassembly is quick, too. Last year, "they" took away my right to pump from the river my property borders so it's only a matter of time they take away my private well which "they" suddenly, after 50 years, decided needed to be recorded. Tick, tick, tick.
I was talking about a situation where a combination of stagnant wages, inflation, and commmunist entitlements and subsidies make it so that a worker lives approximately the same lifestyle as a non-worker. When that happens, why would anyone go to a dangerous job when they could stay home and work the under-the-table economy and fish?
It appears as wordsmithing? Ok.
I don’t see it that way given all the previous legislation and orders that have come before its issuance.
I think that is a key difference. Under Clinton and a number of Presidents, this has been a planning and logistics requirement. The planning was done and key assets identified for use in the event of an emergency before it happened.
This EO does not read that way to me.
He and his admin can do a boatload of damage between now and then.
Oh, that silly old outdated thing? Hussein don't need no stinkin' Constitution or Congress tellin' him what to do.