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Executive Order: National Defense Resources Preparedness
The White House ^ | 3/16/12 | The White House

Posted on 03/16/2012 11:06:46 PM PDT by ebshumidors

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To: coloradan

with a federal register that is too big to haul in a fleet of moving vans, convictions are easy to come by.


251 posted on 03/17/2012 9:24:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: hal ogen

>> “ If I survive, will my cell have a window or not?” <<

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In a 2’x 2’ cell?


252 posted on 03/17/2012 9:29:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Bryanw92

>> “ I often wonder how they would make me go back to work.” <<

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Seriously, in this economy, how many would walk off from a job?


253 posted on 03/17/2012 9:32:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: ebshumidors

read later.


254 posted on 03/17/2012 9:53:54 PM PDT by lysie
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To: JohnKinAK

They forgot the “E” prefix to “NDER”.


255 posted on 03/17/2012 9:55:09 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: coloradan

Thirteenth Amendment: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

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The Constitution nor the Bill of Rights matter to our rulers.


256 posted on 03/17/2012 10:03:08 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Islamists love slavery.

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I don’t and won’t.


257 posted on 03/17/2012 10:03:55 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Chickensoup

Obummer is getting scary, because he is stupid and his handlers are smart, and powerful.

That simpleton is the world’s most useful idiot.


258 posted on 03/17/2012 10:19:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Whenifhow

Some how I missed your post until now! Great stuff. Will take me some time to read it all. In the mean time, on another thread I proposed the idea of establishing a time line of known events to come. Perhaps you know of some things to add? Here is the link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2860478/posts?page=211#211


259 posted on 03/17/2012 10:24:12 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: editor-surveyor

Obummer is getting scary, because he is stupid and his handlers are smart, and powerful.

That simpleton is the world’s most useful idiot.
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His handlers need to be exposed constantly. Hussian is just a debauched tool.


260 posted on 03/17/2012 10:24:29 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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Thread cross-reference:

“Obama executive order: peacetime martial law”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2860494/posts


261 posted on 03/17/2012 10:27:28 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: ebshumidors

Can someone explain to me exactly what this means(In simple terms) people are going nuts on twitter over this, saying that Obama is implementing martial law(And next Sharia Law) and that people should start stock piling weapons..I knew one day Obama would make some law making him President for life, he doesn’t want elections to take place because he knows that he would lose. The media would love having that POS for life


262 posted on 03/17/2012 10:32:48 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: zzeeman

It has the potential for being far, far worse that it looks.

Prepare yourself. We haven’t much time.


263 posted on 03/17/2012 10:36:05 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: bruinbirdman

Hope you find the website of interest. Dates from the clinton era. The author is John A. Sterling

From http://www.lawandliberty.org/above.htm

Synopsis: The author explores the history and development of presidential Executive Orders from the first instance of their use in American Law to the present expansive use by President William Jefferson Clinton.

In Part One, the author looks at the history of Presidential Executive Orders and compares the present applications with the principle of “checks and balances” which the framers of the Constitution considered the cornerstone of American Federalism.

Part Two analyzes the Executive Orders of Presidents from Kennedy to Clinton, with special emphasis on the recent Executive Orders issued by Bill Clinton. The reader will be able, upon completion of both parts, to ascertain whether the Excecutive Branch has been faithful to the limitations of his legitimate authority, in light of the principles established in Part One.

From http://www.lawandliberty.org/above.htm

But what if the Federal Government, under the guise of national emergency and with nothing but the pseudo-authority of Executive Orders, were to attempt to circumvent the Constitution? Who could imagine such a preposterous thing?

Well, the likes of Patrick Henry, to name one, and other anti-Federalists of the day who raised the specter of such an event.

Madison was incredulous at this paranoid assertion and responded to such a “hypothetical” situation by writing, “But ambitious encroachments of the federal government on the authority of the state governments would not excite the opposition of a single state, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. . . Plans of resistance would be concerted.”

Madison obviously thought the idea of a runaway federal government was ludicrous! Besides, he reasoned, the state militias are armed and ready to fight such an obvious act of tyranny.

Not just one or two States, but ALL of them would certainly rise up with force of arms and resist! He rebuffed his detractors by saying, “[t]hat the governments and the people of the States should silently and patiently behold the gathering storm and continue to supply the materials until it should be prepared to burst on their own heads must appear to everyone more like the incoherent dreams of a delirious jealousy. . .than the sober apprehensions of genuine patriotism.”


264 posted on 03/17/2012 10:45:32 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Simply put...

This EO is a replacing of an almost similar EO issued by Clinton in 1994. Obama’s version places all “emergency” management under Homeland Security, instead of Fema. Also, Obama’s EO changes the reporting and authority structure. And putting this under Homeland security adds a military component that Fema didn’t have as strongly. Interesting to note, Bush never made null Clinton’s EO. As far reaching as it was, Bush kept it available to himself for his 8 years in office. Obama’s is more far reaching simply because of the structure of Homeland Security. Some say this is business as usual, others find it odd given the timing of the issuing of the order.

Hope that helps!


265 posted on 03/17/2012 10:45:36 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Thank you so much. Really appreciate you letting me know this. So Clinton did the same thing, but it is VERY strange that all of a sudden Obama would do this now..makes me think he has something up his sleeve, maybe trying to prevent future elections from taking place, or something else..with Obama anything is possible. Always knew he was a dictator, a marxist dictator


266 posted on 03/17/2012 10:48:56 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I know it is time consuming, but take some time to follow the links up thread. You will get a fuller picture and it will help you determine how you feel about this. The best thing we can do for ourselves it to remain informed.


267 posted on 03/17/2012 11:04:39 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Whenifhow; RitaOK

This is the kind of post I DON’T want to see...very unnerving...farmer gets a visit from someone from the dept. of ecology to gps his well... check it out.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2860494/posts?page=31#31


268 posted on 03/17/2012 11:08:51 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Keeping this for further reading...


269 posted on 03/17/2012 11:08:57 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (OnyoneAur liberties we prize and our rig hts we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

Yeah I dont mind reading it, I will for sure, just some of the lingo I did not understand. You all have more experience reading this kind of stuff then I do, but boy did this news explode online, its all over facebook and twitter. Obama always pulls this crap, when he does something like this he does it in the wee hours of the night so that it doesn’t get news til Monday morning


270 posted on 03/17/2012 11:14:57 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Cross reference thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860546/posts


271 posted on 03/17/2012 11:17:27 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: ebshumidors
Connection?

I saw this on Twitter tonight:
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Chuck Nellis ‏ @ChuckNellis Why does homeland security want 450 MILLION rounds of .40 caliber bullets? Not the military, HOMELAND SECURITY. #TCOT ATK Secures .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (DHS, ICE) --ATK Wins Five-Year, Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity Contract for .40 Caliber Ammunition from DHS, ICE --Additional .40 Caliber Ammunition Contract with 450 Million Round Potential Demonstrates ATK's Leadership in Ammunition Manufacturing " Retweeted by Ellis Wyatt
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(FYI, #TCOT means top conservative on Twitter)
272 posted on 03/17/2012 11:43:02 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Alamo-Girl

BTT old friend


273 posted on 03/17/2012 11:43:49 PM PDT by JustPiper (Rearrange the letters in "PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA" and you get "AN ARAB BACKED IMPOSTER"~Coincidence?)
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To: Alamo-Girl

BTT old friend


274 posted on 03/17/2012 11:44:08 PM PDT by JustPiper (Rearrange the letters in "PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA" and you get "AN ARAB BACKED IMPOSTER"~Coincidence?)
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275 posted on 03/18/2012 12:29:57 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: daisy mae for the usa

bfl


276 posted on 03/18/2012 1:12:31 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Noumenon

Thank you; I believe that you are correct. We’ve been preparing, I suspect the hammer may drop at any time.


277 posted on 03/18/2012 1:12:35 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I believe you are correct. The trend actually extends back to either Nixon or Eisenhower. I researched it back in 2002 and it extended back to the older “Civil Defense” system of bomb shelters.

It appeared to me that it was a mechanism for each Administration to basically ‘clean house’ of previous Administration bureaucratic institutions left in place and functioning without full cognizance of the next Administration.

Back then, it probably wouldn’t have been feasible for such a large CT to be successful. The longer they linger on the books and the more accustomed the system accepts their existence, thinking they are innocuous, the greater the risk of somebody like Obama plotting to use them for nefarious ends.

Re: the ‘coffin’ boxes, they appear to be burial liners used in cemetaries to help distribute a load, and might be easily explained as a common manufacturer of plastic containers contracted by the industry in mortuary services. They don’t appear to seal from water leakage, so they wouldn’t make very good coffins.

IMHO, the more obvious risk here is becoming to complacent with these types of EOs. Congress needs to enforce their checks and balances on this dictatorial President.


278 posted on 03/18/2012 1:55:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: MurrietaMadman
Thanks for the ping. Good find.

". . . . courts have power to compel subordinate executive officials to disobey illegal Presidential commands." [cites omitted] 74 F.3d 1322, *1337, 316 U.S.App.D.C. 61, **76"

Another reason The Obammunist wants another communist on the Supreme Court.

yitbos

279 posted on 03/18/2012 1:57:44 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: EBH
"Look at all the use of the word during “peacetime.”

Gearing up for the government-made financial collapse? You know, when there's a crisis, never waste the opportunity to exploit it...on steroids.

280 posted on 03/18/2012 3:09:05 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: ebshumidors; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; LucyT

The definition of terms section at the end of the order gives one the picture. No question that it means to impliment martial law against the civilian populace, and the comandeering of private transportation of every kind:

“Sec. 801. Definitions. In addition to the definitions in section 702 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2152, the following definitions apply throughout this order:

(a) “Civil transportation” includes movement of persons and property by all modes of transportation in interstate, intrastate, or foreign commerce within the United States, its territories and possessions, and the District of Columbia, and related public storage and warehousing, ports, services, equipment and facilities, such as transportation carrier shop and repair facilities. “Civil transportation” also shall include direction, control, and coordination of civil transportation capacity regardless of ownership. “Civil transportation” shall not include transportation owned or controlled by the Department of Defense, use of petroleum and gas pipelines, and coal slurry pipelines used only to supply energy production facilities directly.”

I had the thought that the “preservation of the nations industrial base,” being the trigger for this order, would somehow involve the larger Unions who now support Obama, and who would act to impliment this order as agents of Homeland Security.The TSA would also be involved.

This executive order reads like something from the pre Civil War era.


281 posted on 03/18/2012 3:17:38 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info.. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: beaversmom; EBH
Eternal vigilence is the price of liberty.

This night and fog release style does not build trust with 0bama administration. The work "peacetime" is used many times in the 1994 EO document of same name, too.

IMHO, it reads as wordsmithing the previous Executive Order with the modern federal department names/responsibilites.

Pray for our republic,
OLA

282 posted on 03/18/2012 3:24:58 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Your impressions re the overall reactions you were 'hearing' via Twit and Fb would be informative.helpful.interesting.

IOW, did it seem like most were taking it seriously, kissing Ø's ass, heading out for more ammo, etc ?

(Fb is evil, and I don't type on phones ;-)

283 posted on 03/18/2012 3:34:46 AM PDT by tomkat (it's patrick henry time)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

” IMHO, it reads as wordsmithing the previous Executive Order with the modern federal department names/responsibilites. “

There’s a not-so-minor difference between Clinton’s order of 1994 and this EO of March 16, 2012 —

This is a different world, and a different America, than existed in 1994....

In the interim - since 9/11/2001, and especially in the last two years - there has been a LOT of pretty draconian legislation passed, giving the Administration (whatever Administration happens to occupy the WH) all kinds of heretofore unprecedented, and constitutionally questionable, powers...

This hodgepodge of bad legislation (in the name of ‘National Security’) is bad enough when the laws are implemented piecemeal - but to have them all pulled together under one ‘Umbrella’ EO is downright scary....


284 posted on 03/18/2012 3:41:25 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Candor7

thanks for the ping and the comment, if I were to reply and tell you what I’m thinking, ‘they’ would probably come and take me away...


285 posted on 03/18/2012 3:53:03 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Quix

Wow....

Thanks for the ping.


286 posted on 03/18/2012 4:02:55 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: ebshumidors

Appears on first look to be the initiation of a command economy
with Obama and his posse doing the commanding.


287 posted on 03/18/2012 4:12:02 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: pillut48

It means get something in 40 cal.


288 posted on 03/18/2012 4:26:10 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Chickensoup

A little off the topic, but does anyone remember when FEMA bought 1 Billion dollars worth of body bags about 1 year ago, and nearly 140 million meals. http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/terror-threats-rising-as-fema-orders-1-billion-dehydrated-food

I am really starting to wonder. I guess I will plant an extra big garden this summer.


289 posted on 03/18/2012 4:47:15 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: ebshumidors

“War warning? “

That was my initial thought...preparing for attack.


290 posted on 03/18/2012 4:47:15 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: ebshumidors
The ONLY current major threat we are defenseless against is the Asshole-In-Chief in the White Hut; aka, the Usurper.

He declared the War on Terror OVER, except for INTERNALLY, where we have people who oppose this Socialist Ditatorship/Takeover of the USA, and the last couple of "Proclamations" are to stifle ALL DISSENT WITHIN, which includes NOT being able to speak out in opposition to The Messiah, and now, we are being told he has taken over all means of production, transportation, food, monetary system, etc., via his self-appointed Czars.

We need a military coup BADLY, although since he's planted the seeds of faggots/dykes over-running the former Duty-Honor-Country warriors of the past, it better be sooner rather than later, or it will be too late to have a Military with balls.

291 posted on 03/18/2012 4:58:38 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Back, your list is too short by a bunch.

I always wonder how many have read the book. It’s not easy to come by. I’ve got two copies and a pdf file.


292 posted on 03/18/2012 5:04:20 AM PDT by vortec94
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To: ebshumidors

bookmark


293 posted on 03/18/2012 5:06:21 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Little Pig
They can restrict water usage, even from private wells. They can ration any and all drugs, including OTC and vitamins. They can collectivize farms. They can take over all energy production, including home solar units.

Hide a cache of foil and have some randomly discarded cardboard out in the open and you've got your solar oven back. Disassembly is quick, too. Last year, "they" took away my right to pump from the river my property borders so it's only a matter of time they take away my private well which "they" suddenly, after 50 years, decided needed to be recorded. Tick, tick, tick.

294 posted on 03/18/2012 5:16:10 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: editor-surveyor

I was talking about a situation where a combination of stagnant wages, inflation, and commmunist entitlements and subsidies make it so that a worker lives approximately the same lifestyle as a non-worker. When that happens, why would anyone go to a dangerous job when they could stay home and work the under-the-table economy and fish?


295 posted on 03/18/2012 5:18:14 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican

It appears as wordsmithing? Ok.

I don’t see it that way given all the previous legislation and orders that have come before its issuance.

I think that is a key difference. Under Clinton and a number of Presidents, this has been a planning and logistics requirement. The planning was done and key assets identified for use in the event of an emergency before it happened.

This EO does not read that way to me.


296 posted on 03/18/2012 5:18:46 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: BobP
Countdown until Jackwagon leaves Office: 309 days as of March 17, 2012.

He and his admin can do a boatload of damage between now and then.

297 posted on 03/18/2012 5:19:06 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: reagandemocrat
13th Amendment— Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Oh, that silly old outdated thing? Hussein don't need no stinkin' Constitution or Congress tellin' him what to do.

298 posted on 03/18/2012 5:28:16 AM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: Cricket24
I posted it on my Facebook. Can this order be changed when we get a new President?
299 posted on 03/18/2012 5:33:12 AM PDT by angcat (PLEASE GOD SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: angcat
I posted it on my Facebook. Can this order be changed when we get a new President?

Sure. And I think that any executive order that goes beyond the scope of executive branch function as outlined in the Constitution is, in and of itself, a usurpation of the Constitution.
300 posted on 03/18/2012 5:36:32 AM PDT by aruanan
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