Posted on 03/17/2012 9:53:56 AM PDT by redreno
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -- Calls made to police show that a black teenager was terrified as he tried to get away from the white neighborhood watch volunteer who shot him, and that the volunteer was not defending himself as he has claimed, the teen's family told The Associated Press on Saturday.
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I shouldn't laugh, but I just did. That was my first thought (jokingly), too, when I read that he'd been suspended.
Now that we have established what these MSM "news" articles are, the curiosity is why you are so willing to be managed so easily?
So, it makes no difference whether the article is at AP or Storm Front
We have no information regarding "demands", there is no evidence about anyone being "detained", and we don't know who put their hands on whom.
You do not have sufficient information to reasonably conclude these things. You do not know what interaction Zimmerman and Martin had with one another before it got physical, and you do not know what physical exchange they had before the shooting occurred.
We don't know, nor do we have reason to suspect, that Martin committed any crimes that night before his encounter with Zimmerman.
Apparently Zimmerman is claiming that Martin attacked him and that the shooting was self defense.
If Martin attacked Zimmerman then this was a crime.
I do not and I am disgusted by the number of people here on FR who are unable or unwilling to consider this possibility.
Then you're less self-aware than I gave you credit for.
One dumb post after another. I wonder why you bother.
This is what leftists do. Welcome to reality.
Have you listened to the recording of Zimmerman's 911 call in its entirety (unedited)?
I have not and I have seen no link where it is available.
If you are claiming to have listened to "the tapes" and you have not listened to Zimmerman's call in full then you are either a retard or else you are some sort of nasty lying commie.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you, personally, could recognize the voices of Mr. Zimmerman, Mr. Martin, the other assorted 911 callers, and that they were capable of identifying the voices of Mr. Zimmerman and Mr. Martin, and that the tape was complete and unedited.
I also didn't realize that the family's conclusions, as reported by AP, are legally defined as evidence and have been judged admissible and found to be truth by a jury of Zimmerman's peers.
Unless Martin himself was acting in self-defense. It's possible that both of them believed they were acting in self-defense. If it would be acceptable for one person to shoot another in self-defense, then it should be acceptable to fight physically in self-defense.
Again, I don't know what happened, either. But, the above is another possibility.
You can listen to the 911 calls at the link WeatherGuy posted above. Here’s the link again:
I don’t know if the calls are complete, though, but there’s a lot of information there.
You are wasting your time. Rogue yam and NP are saying the tapes are fake
The race of the people involved has nothing to do with the case. But it does have a lot to do with how the MSM covers the case. And that has a lot to do with how liberals and conservatives see it - see the bias or favoritism. As an earlier poster mentioned - stories where a white person is the victim of blacks tend not to be covered. That's wrong.
I have a theory on this... Years ago most newspapers didn't cover the civil rights movement - didn't cover it when it was happening. There were papers in the South that just ignored the issue. Some papers didn't have one black writer - just like now there are papers that don't have one conservative writer.
The civil rights movement of the early 60's was as popular as the Tea Party Movement is today. And got just as much coverage. In other words - not much. I heard MLK give his "I have a Dream" speech in Chicago - 1964 - he had changed the speech from the one he had given in Washington a few months earlier and the speech was amazing. He took the one part about 'the dream' and expanded it to about a 90 minute speech. It was the most beautiful speech I've ever heard. People around me were crying as he spoke. I was crying too. The paper didn't do crap with it... and that was in the North. In the South, things of historical importance with civil rights would happen - and zip, nada - nothing in the papers. Ok, I'm getting off track here...
I think what's happened is so many 'journalists' missed the civil rights movement when it was happening, that they started jumping on any slight years later to prove their bonifides. Too late - they were jumping the shark. Some story about upper class black women and some tony country club - truth is, they should have been there when the civil rights movement really needed them - when the real stuff was happening - not years jumping on slights. Guilty consciences.... Not pretty.
So like most guilt ridden, they go overboard with one sided reporting in the other direction. And as is usually the case, the pendulum swings too far. The correct way ( if the MSM acted like adults rather than like members of a high school clique) would be to put in their Style Books ways that crime is dealt with - regardless of race.
In the sixties the MSM was worse to blacks - now they're worse to whites. It's stupid. Create a standard - "THIS" is covered - white, black, Asian... and this level of crime is NOT covered etc. Keep it consistent and they'd get some respect back. That might be too obvious for the elites of the MSM...
I was thinking that you were merely stupid, BF, but now it seems you're evil for sure.
I think you are totally over-analyzing things.
Here’s my theory: Leftists, including the leftist media, are irrational and dishonest and evil. They tell crazy lies because they hate the truth, they hate God, they hate Western Civilization, and they hate white people.
I really don’t think it is any more complicated than that. Genesis Chapter 2. There is good and evil in this world. Leftism is evil.
I don’t believe Zimmerman was a racist, just a gung-ho wanna- be- cop asshole that had no intelligence. Too much TV.
How is THAT admissible or credible evidence?... It’s called documentary evidence.
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