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Would you pay $100 to skip the TSA screening line?
Hotair ^ | 03/17/2012 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 03/17/2012 10:03:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

An idea long overdue in my opinion. The Wall Street Journal reports that a pilot program is already in place for two airlines at nine airports where you can skip the TSA nudie scans and gropings, zipping through the airport almost as fast as you did before 9/11. You can leave on your shoes, your belt, your coat and your hat. All you’ll have to do is go through a “pre-screening” background check process and sit down for an interview with an official. Oh, and there’s one other catch… it will cost you $100.

The Transportation Security Administration is rolling out expedited screening at big airports called “Precheck.” It has special lanes for background-checked travelers, who can keep their shoes, belt and jacket on, leave laptops and liquids in carry-on bags and walk through a metal detector rather than a full-body scan. The process, now at two airlines and nine airports, is much like how screenings worked before the Sept. 11 attacks.
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To qualify, frequent fliers must meet undisclosed TSA criteria and get invited in by the airlines. There is also a backdoor in. Approved travelers who are in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s “Global Entry” program can transfer into Precheck using their Global Entry number.

TSA says it also wants as many people as possible in Precheck, which is still in pilot-testing phase. Both agencies say the programs can enhance screening of people they know nothing about if they can move low-risk people who submit to background checks out of the main queues.

“We can reduce the size of the haystack when we are looking for that one-in-a-billion terrorist,” said TSA Administrator John Pistole.

When I went to renew my passport last year prior to a trip to Canada, I picked up a lot of useful information on this subject. But it also highlighted some opportunities which the government seemed to be overlooking. For example, you still don’t have to have a passport if you are driving into Canada, as opposed to flying. In Michigan, New York, Vermont and Washington state, you can apply for an enhanced drivers license. This functions just like a regular license in terms of operating your vehicle and serving as valid ID for all your needs. But it also proves that you’ve had an extensive background check to determine that you’re unlikely to be plotting anything nasty. With one of those you can drive through into Canada without having to produce a passport.

Why not have a similar thing for flying, even if it’s only on domestic flights? And the TSA representative in the article makes a good point. The more travelers who get signed on to this program, the fewer people there will be waiting at the normal TSA screening stations, so everyone will make it through faster. Sounds like a winning plan to me, at least as a short to medium term solution. The only question is… one hundred bucks? Are you willing to pay the government that much for the privilege of getting through the airport faster? While I understand there may be some resentment, I have to admit… I might be doing it.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airport; screening; tsa
The only question I have is this -- What's to stop a potential terrorist from PAYING $100 to avoid the TSA screening line?
1 posted on 03/17/2012 10:03:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It is quite a bit more than just paying $100. You have to fill out and submit a very extensive questionnaire and once that’s accepted then go in for a personal interview which is concluded by taking your fingerprints which get routed to the FBI for further checking. Pretty decent scrutiny all in all. I’ve already done it and it’s great for coming back into the country and skipping the long lines at immigration. Look forward to avoiding the security lines.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 10:13:09 AM PDT by Bayan
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To: Bayan

And if any part of your name includes “Mohammed”, you will automatically be accepted so as to avoid claims of racism or sexism or someotherism.


3 posted on 03/17/2012 10:18:21 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: SeekAndFind

If it is a one-time fee, it may be worth it.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 10:20:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish I didn’t have to fund the TSA while sitting at home.


5 posted on 03/17/2012 10:23:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: mnehring

So they create a sorry situation, and if you want to avoid it, pay them a fee and they get to hire another bureaucracy. What is to prevent them from adding yet another onerous and dubious process and charging you to avoid it?


6 posted on 03/17/2012 10:26:13 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to know what authority TSA has to make two lines, one for first class passengers and one for everyone else..I paid my ticket and my taxes, why am I treated differently for a different class of ticket?

Anyone know?


7 posted on 03/17/2012 10:26:36 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

That is a very good question. The airlines should treat first class passengers better; they paid for the privilege. But how can the airlines command, as a private company, the federal government to treat their best customers better?

Legally and ethically, it is like paying a high priced tax attorney to literally bypass a necessary audit.

Hmmm.


8 posted on 03/17/2012 10:35:41 AM PDT by Yaelle (Santorum 2012)
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To: Yaelle

i did a little search and apparently the airlines control/pay for the area just before tsa thus they can give preferential treatment...maybe my beef is with the airlines?


9 posted on 03/17/2012 10:42:05 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Bayan
You have to fill out and submit a very extensive questionnaire and once that’s accepted then go in for a personal interview which is concluded by taking your fingerprints which get routed to the FBI for further checking. Pretty decent scrutiny all in all.

How would this prevent any terrorist with a previously unblemished record from breezing past TSA checkpoints while they pat down children and old women? Would it have weeded out even one of the 9/11 hijackers?

This sounds like a straight-forward shakedown racket - pay us $100 and you can avoid our harassment.
10 posted on 03/17/2012 10:42:56 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: rolling_stone

I’m not quite getting the distinction for “first class”. Isn’t this for any seating assignment?

BTW, all of the 9-11 terrorists were sitting in first class.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 10:46:16 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Yaelle

I don’t know about other countries, but first class passengers as well as air crew get expedited through customs and immigration in Costa Rica. Don’t remember if this is true for U.S. as well. Come to think of it, the same was true 100 years ago. First class disembarked in New York, lower classes at Ellis Island.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 10:49:23 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, some of us travelers who have been mauled by TSA staff may agree to pay $100 if we are allowed to put on rubber gloves and squeeze hard the nuts and breasts of all the TSA staff on duty the next time we are at the airport to go through the security line. Payback.


13 posted on 03/17/2012 11:24:32 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: SeekAndFind

I drive - takes longer (unless it’s within 7 hours of home) and the scenery is better. Don’t trust TSA to stop anyone who is a real terrorist and won’t pay exhorbitant prices for the “privilege” of flying.


14 posted on 03/17/2012 11:25:08 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: battlecry
So they create a sorry situation, and if you want to avoid it, pay them a fee and they get to hire another bureaucracy.

Wasn't it papal indulgences that led to the protestant reformation in the late middle ages?

I guess this is just another form of JiffyPass, which costs turnpike users $1 per month and is worth it.

Agreed, we shouldn't have to pay the government to give us "absolution"; but it will give them some plausible deniability for singling out foreign-born muslim males between the ages of 12 and 30 who haven't passed the background check.

Until the ACLU and CAIR sue them again, that is.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 11:25:49 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The facts of life are Tory." -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: rolling_stone

That always bugged me.


16 posted on 03/17/2012 11:32:18 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: SeekAndFind
These programs are fundamentally flawed, and a threat to lives and national security.

For example, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, of Fort Hood fame, would have qualified with flying colors prior to his murder rampage. Alternatively, I probably would not. In 1969, a large group of summer resort employees, including me, were walking back from a picnic with, among other things, open bottles of wine. The police charged us all with open liquor in a public place. We pleaded guilty and paid a $30 fine. This was a criminal conviction, which I have had to mention on many forms since.

This solves nothing and risks lives.

17 posted on 03/17/2012 11:32:22 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: SeekAndFind
This whole ridiculous TSA thing is just crying out for some massive civil disobedience wherein a large number of people go through the line and refuse to be groped and irradiated. Let the cops arrest them all. Repeat at other locations as necessary.

Maybe we can get the Occupy idiots to do it, because the average "conservative" Americans seem to have lost their testicles.
18 posted on 03/17/2012 11:35:14 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: All

TSA = “Thousands Standing Around”


19 posted on 03/17/2012 11:35:46 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: Darth Reardon

....or ‘hussein’.


20 posted on 03/17/2012 11:43:01 AM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it doesn't get any better than that!)
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To: Bayan
Hello?

The FBI already has all this stuff for all of us who have ever had a security clearance. This $100 thing turns the TSA in an extortion racket.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 03/17/2012 12:04:49 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Darth Reardon
So now it turns out that TSA is just another Chicago style shackdown. You know . . . It's like buying “In-sure-ance”, ya give us a C-note and nothing bad happens until we decide we wants a-nutter C-note. Capeash?
22 posted on 03/17/2012 12:06:53 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Kennard

That seems ridiculous that you should have to mention that 43 years later. I could see 7 years, but that would be it if not too many years.


23 posted on 03/17/2012 12:10:29 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Bayan

I have the global entry card as well. The time savings and reduced hassles are worth it when you fly 100 times a year.

I am an admitted travel snob. I like being able to insulate myself from the travel noobs. Plus as a gazillion miler my status means my airlines treat me well.

I earned it with seat time.


24 posted on 03/17/2012 12:15:06 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Year 2011 is over. Homeland Security has provided their end-of-the-year statistics on airport screenings here in the U.S.

Please note results below:

* Terrorist Plots Discovered: 0
* Transvestites: 743
* Enlarged Prostates: 19,249
* Breast Implants: 209,350
* Colon problems: 27,298
* Natural Blondes: 3


25 posted on 03/17/2012 12:53:07 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: SeekAndFind
Our government is SO behind the times. About 6 years ago I got a UAE-GATE for entrance into the United Arab Emirates. The lines for passport control were horrendous, especially around 11pm -- over 25 lines with 40 people -- a crowded room of tired waiting people.

The UAE-GATE card cost $225 for 2 years. The application process at the airport took about 10 minutes. With it I walked up to a gate and swiped the card. This opened the first gate. When I walked into a secure area, the gate closed behind me. Then I put my forefinger on a fingerprint sensor, and the second gate opened. A passport control agent watched over the gates. I got through in 30 seconds rather than waiting in the mass of humanity for an hour.

It was all very smooth, and very efficient. Very much unlike the process used in this country, where everyone, even transit passengers, need to go through passport control, customs, and security.

As a side benefit, my passport stopped filling up the UAE stamps.

26 posted on 03/17/2012 1:13:35 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: SeekAndFind; Bayan; Darth Reardon; mnehring; battlecry; cripplecreek; rolling_stone; ...

Are humiliations and screenings only for the ‘little people’?

This is undercover - shot by a conservative - of New York Times elites talking about liberal elite perks - and their contempt for conservatives. This is what we’re up against.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


27 posted on 03/17/2012 1:32:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

NO! Disband TSA. All this does is reduce our number of allies in the fight. TSA is illegal and unconstitutional. Fight to disband it, not put a band-aid on for a select few.

Let’s keep the goal of freedom in sight, not submit to tyranny.


28 posted on 03/17/2012 1:58:04 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

the us has similar programs
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/


29 posted on 03/17/2012 2:02:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: battlecry
So they create a sorry situation, and if you want to avoid it, pay them a fee and they get to hire another bureaucracy.

It's the american dream ticket. Create something and then find a way to force everyone to pay for their 'participation'. The legal community is the most successful so far but credit reporting agencies aren't far behind. The TSA is learning quickly

30 posted on 03/17/2012 3:12:25 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: napscoordinator
That seems ridiculous that you should have to mention that 43 years later.

A friend had his NEXUS pass (the Canada/US equivalent) pulled because he had failed to mention a 28-year-old conviction for punching a guy in a hockey match. No damage was done, but it was technically battery. He paid no fine and was released on good behavior. They also put negative comments on his file so that he was held up around an hour each time he crossed the border. He spent countless hours getting it straightened out. A INS officer at the border eventually helped him out and deleted the negative comments. He still hasn't got his NEXUS pass back.

Contrast this with the kid-glove treatment given those likely to do us harm.

31 posted on 03/17/2012 6:07:25 PM PDT by Kennard
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To: Bayan
I have a secret clearance........AND, I'm sure the TSA’s process is much more stringent......I mean...”They da Boss!”
32 posted on 03/17/2012 6:18:03 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: SeekAndFind
Yep! I can just see a couple of moslems sitting down with our dear leader's federal agents and those agents risking their necks rejecting said moslems...

Fat chance...Phony documents be damned...That hasn't done much to stop dear leader from being dear leader...

33 posted on 03/17/2012 8:43:45 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: bopdowah
"The Year 2011 is over. Homeland Security has provided their end-of-the-year statistics on airport screenings here in the U.S.

Please note results below:

* Terrorist Plots Discovered: 0
* Transvestites: 743
* Enlarged Prostates: 19,249
* Breast Implants: 209,350
* Colon problems: 27,298
* Natural Blondes: 3

Finally...An informative post that proves beyond all doubt that our tax dollars are not being wasted by the airport gestapo...{;-)

PS: By any chance, did you use the FOI to get the names the last three?

34 posted on 03/17/2012 8:53:08 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

“PS: By any chance, did you use the FOI to get the names the last three? “

Still workin’ on it!


35 posted on 03/17/2012 11:46:20 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: SuperLuminal

I’ve flown exactly ONCE since 9/11/2001. I won’t fly again. Period.


36 posted on 03/17/2012 11:47:32 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01

“This whole ridiculous TSA thing is just crying out for some massive civil disobedience wherein a large number of people go through the line and refuse to be groped and irradiated. Let the cops arrest them all. Repeat at other locations as necessary.

Maybe we can get the Occupy idiots to do it, because the average “conservative” Americans seem to have lost their testicle”

But the people behind the “Occupy ‘Protests’” are people who are routing for the terrorists.


37 posted on 03/18/2012 12:34:44 AM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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