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Court weighs making health coverage a fact of life
AP ^ | 03/17/2012 | By CONNIE CASS

Posted on 03/17/2012 10:59:05 AM PDT by redreno

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Death, taxes and now health insurance? Having a medical plan or else paying a fine is about to become another certainty of American life, unless the Supreme Court says no.

People are split over the wisdom of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, but they are nearly united against its requirement that everybody have insurance. The mandate is intensely unpopular even though more than 8 in 10 people in the United States already are covered by workplace plans or government programs such as Medicare. When the insurance obligation kicks in, not even two years from now, most people won't need to worry or buy anything new.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: govtabuse; mediabias; obama; tyranny

1 posted on 03/17/2012 10:59:15 AM PDT by redreno
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To: redreno

I will not comply.


2 posted on 03/17/2012 11:14:23 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: redreno

FREEDOM!


3 posted on 03/17/2012 11:21:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: redreno
When the insurance obligation kicks in, not even two years from now, most people won't need to worry or buy anything new.

When a totalitarian government gives a command that violates the rights of individuals, all decent citizens need to worry. When the various socialist-leaning Europeans violated the rights of Jews in 1900-1945, decent people didn't say, "most people won't need to worry", they condemned the violations of individual freedom and fought to reverse the action. I currently have medical insurance, which I pay for myself and by choice, but that is irrelevant. The Obama government is in direct violation of the Constitution and of the individual rights of those who do not wish to participate in this marketplace. Evil is no less harmful simply because it targets a minority rather than targeting all equally.

4 posted on 03/17/2012 11:26:10 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: chris37

Oh you will, you will. Because they wrote it as a Tax.

See Sections 9205 and 9215.

If you are a wage earner with an employer sponsored healthplan, then they are going to have your employer put your healthplan in dollars on a W2 and they are going to set a ceiling on it and take 40% above the ceiling as a tax.

And if you make more than $200k, you will pay an extra percentage as a tax.

Yep, you’re gonna pay your taxes, else you know what happens to those that don’t pay their taxes.

Pay up Serf!


5 posted on 03/17/2012 11:47:54 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Pollster1
The Obama government is in direct violation of the Constitution .............and have successfully executed a coup and subjected our nation to socialist rule!!!

Our respect for law allows a handful of political criminals to enslave over 300 million souls. Where is our Samson, our King Leonidas, our Joan of Arc, our Patric Henry................???

6 posted on 03/17/2012 11:48:55 AM PDT by varon (Congress is a sanctuary for political criminals)
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To: chris37
Nor will I comply... Liberty or death! May the blood of patriots and tryants refresh the tree of liberty, I will not comply with this lawless edict from Washington!
7 posted on 03/17/2012 12:20:21 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: redreno
This whole discussion is silly. The federal government has already been granted the power to levy taxes, and then it has chosen, contrary to Art. I, Sec. 8, to provide a benefit, determined by law, to the elderly, given certain conditions. The same law has been applied to folks of low income, as well as those who fail to meet standards of aptitude or physical ability, for societal and medical care.

Who would be unable to conceive of leftists simply adding to the medicare slave tax, and providing a benefit to more people? What difference does it make that we are talking about a tax placed on people who don't follow the rules?
8 posted on 03/17/2012 12:40:30 PM PDT by andyk (Tax credits for your kids == Welfare)
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To: redreno

What is coming is evil. We will have monies removed from our earnings, not just to fund federal healthcare, but also to fund abortions. This is coming.

That will be completely analogous to assisting in child sacrifice. It won’t be much money, probably only a dollar or two. yet it will be ‘required’ and as noted below, will be taken from wages.

This is completely, one hundred percent against what a Christian should allow for him or herself. It will require you to violate your faith as a child of God.

The point has been reached with this to stand. We need to have the mind of pledging our lives, fortunes to resisting this.

Will we falter to preserve our jobs? 401k’s? Homes? Physical freedom? Perhaps our lives? How far down that road are we willing to say “NO”?

I, for one say, that I hope I can stand before Jesus when that time comes and He’ll say “Well done.”

Or perhaps we’ll falter and feed that child killing machine, trying to explain to our savior, asking Him to understand that we had to somehow keep our home, here, that will ultimately burn anyway.

Polycarp chose martyrdom rather than give a pinch of incense to honor ceasar. Three Hebrew children chose the furnace rather than bow to an idol.

Christians, it is going to get VERY ugly going forward. Pray for this country.


9 posted on 03/17/2012 12:46:41 PM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: redreno

If you haven’t yet, time to lock and load times a wasting.


10 posted on 03/17/2012 1:47:59 PM PDT by bikerman (you can take the man out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the man)
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To: redreno

Much will depend on whether the Supreme Court rules on this as a Constitutional matter to be a Court prerogative as they have been prone to do sometimes when given the opportunity or if they abide by the Constitution and see the issue as a matter for Congress to deal with.


11 posted on 03/17/2012 4:39:43 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Hostage

I am neither.

And I will not comply.

In fact, I will die before I comply.


12 posted on 03/17/2012 4:44:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Monorprise

Amen.

The line is right there on the ground, and a grizzly bear lives on the other side of it.

Another person only has as much power over me as I give them, and so help me God, I will not ever give them the power to make me buy anything at all.


13 posted on 03/17/2012 4:47:41 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: redreno

14 posted on 03/17/2012 4:48:45 PM PDT by tomkat (FU.baraq)
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To: varon
Our respect for law allows a handful of political criminals to enslave over 300 million souls. Where is our Samson, our King Leonidas, our Joan of Arc, our Patric Henry................???

She will show up when we deserve better than what we have now. Considering how few people stood up to defend Palin, Bachmann, Cain, and so many others from sleazy and vicious character assassinations, I'm not surprised that those capable of leading effectively are unwilling to do it for us. When are we going to prove that we deserve a great leader. "The times make the man," and these times have made embarrassingly small men, like Obama, Reid, Holder, and Romney. When liberals ask how I can support the leaders I mentioned, I don't shrink in shame, I proudly explain how I can. Sadly, while those who do the same may be common on FR, they are a small minority in what is left of America.

15 posted on 03/17/2012 7:18:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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