Skip to comments.Democratic Senators Issue Strong Warning About Use of the Patriot Act
Posted on 03/17/2012 6:10:25 PM PDT by QT3.14
For more than two years, a handful of Democrats on the Senate intelligence committee have warned that the government is secretly interpreting its surveillance powers under the Patriot Act in a way that would be alarming if the public or even others in Congress knew about it.
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Interesting that two Dem Senators seem to be picking a fight with the Obama administration.
The part time president is giving all politicians a bad name and a bad taste in their mouth.
Don’t yawn about this or you might be under watch.
The Patriot Act is really beside the point; the real issue here is the Thug-in-Chief who lives in the WH.
“”The Justice Department has argued that disclosing information about its interpretation of the Patriot Act could alert adversaries to how the government collects certain intelligence. It is seeking the dismissal of two Freedom of Information Act lawsuits by The New York Times and by the American Civil Liberties Union related to how the Patriot Act has been interpreted. “””
That sure didn’t stop the NY Times from divulging every aspect of it when W was around. I guess all them investigative journalists are on a four year break.
Is that the same as double secret probation?
Or is it? Maybe it has to do with all of us out here, wanting to take a free ride on the backs of our Founders for so long that we forgot the price of not winding up with an Obama. We have not been willing to pay that price as it presented in a thousand different ways over our history. Not writing us off here, but we might start to look at ourselves before God as to why that man is where he is (much to our chagrin now).
What do you want to bet that both Udall and Wyden are up for reelection this year? Both are probably seeing in the teabags er leaves that it may not be a good year for ammonites.
House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) offered a stern warning to his fellow lawmakers in a closed conference meeting Wednesday at the Capitol Hill Club: Dont you dare vote no unless you attend Muellers briefing and ask your questions.
Enjoy the consequences of approving a police state instead of fighting a real war.
Do you mean more than the fact I have to send about 40 pages of my families detailed personal and financial information that I'm required to send to the IRS next month?
A log containing every mile my wife drove on business
What contractors I've done business with and how much I've paid them
Every restaurant I ate in while on business
etc, etc, etc
People should look a few threads back at the one on BHO’s EO he signed Friday for peace-time martial law!
Wyden and Udall.
Frankly, it’s so serious that it’s laughable.
From the article
“The senators wrote that it was appropriate to keep specific operations secret. But, they said, the government in a democracy must act within publicly understood law so that voters can ratify or reject decisions made on their behalf even if that obligation to be transparent with the public creates other challenges.
We would also note that in recent months we have grown increasingly skeptical about the actual value of the intelligence collection operation, they added. This has come as a surprise to us, as we were initially inclined to take the executive branchs assertions about the importance of this operation at face value.
NOW two Dem/Commies are worried about Holder/0bama’s ‘interpretation’? Where do they live, in the War Room bathroom of Stepfordville?
SEC. 802. DEFINITION OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
(a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended—
(1) in paragraph (1)(B)(iii), by striking `by assassination or kidnapping’ and inserting `by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping’;
(2) in paragraph (3), by striking `and’;
(3) in paragraph (4), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and’; and
(4) by adding at the end the following:
`(5) the term `domestic terrorism’ means activities that—
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
`(B) appear to be intended—
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.’.
(b) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 3077(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
`(1) `act of terrorism’ means an act of domestic or international terrorism as defined in section 2331;’.
“appear to be intended”
Since Obama and his henchmen appear to think (since he said it) that a great deal of the population intends to (bitterly) cling to its guns (particularly) as well as (for the most part, Judeo-Christian) religion ....
“This could get ugly fast,” says I, as Natalie Main & the Dixie Chicks entered stage-left, on roller skates, nekkid as jay boids.
Hitler did the same thing. I think we have reached the time that free speech is dangerous to your health, and I'm serious. This is just the beginning. If Hussein wins reelection, this will get worse and we will be afraid even to write unless it is praising him.
Screw them. God-given rights.
it must have been when Bush was President. They damn sur would not say a word about anything this imposter that currently occupies the White House does or says.
And I am sure they asked if you have any guns in your house. And then asked if they were loaded. Next they are going to ask if we have any porn movies in the house.
Not writing us off here, but we might start to look at ourselves before God as to why that man is where he is (much to our chagrin now).
The Patriot Act was supposed to be used to catch evil terrorists which is why the left hated it. This will be used to destroy law abiding enemies of the left which is why the left (that automatically means 99 % of media) is silent.
I assume they know I have guns since they made me fill out the paperwork when I bought them. I assume if we don't have any porn and condoms we are now liable for a fine?
I don’t here them complain about personal privacy when it’s related to the IRS, which makes the patriot act pale by comparison.
Only if you paid for the condoms.
I see the real problem is that too many people are fine with police state measures like the Patriot Act as long as they think 'their' thug will be Chief. They never consider what will happen when power inevitably shifts.
Pretty bad bets. Udall is up for re-election in 2014 and Wyden in 2016.
the last time Congressional Dems started poking their noses into the Patriot Act, anthrax started showing up in their mailboxes.
When socialists reveal their true agenda, it is their supporters that recoil in horror at first. Then, those former supporters are sent to the gulags.
It happens in every socialist takeover throughout history.
They are only saying this because they know
a republican will be president shortly.
If Obama was going to be reelected you wouldn’t
hear a word out of them.
Even Hitler’s friends started turning on him.