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Illinois: Romney 41% Santorum 32% Gingrich 14%
Rassmussen Reports ^ | 3/15/12 | N/A

Posted on 03/18/2012 12:34:40 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has the lead in Illinois but lots of voters are still trying to decide in the final days before the state’s GOP Primary.

The first Rasmussen Reports poll in the state shows Romney at 41% and Rick Santorum at 32%. Trailing further back are Newt Gingrich at 14% and Ron Paul at seven percent (7%).

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: illinois; kenyanbornmuzzie; mittromney; newt4romney; newtbots4romney; newtgingrich; polls; ricksantorum
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1 posted on 03/18/2012 12:34:42 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

mittens needs 47% of all remaining delegates.

if all he can do is get 41% in illinois...

when and what states are winner take all?


2 posted on 03/18/2012 12:37:13 PM PDT by Principled
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Since this is another “OPEN” primary, it is very critical, to the number of how many Democrat crossover “Prank” votes will show at the polls. Just when Romney held a 6 point lead in Mississippi and a slight lead in Alabama, the Democrats showed up and made the difference.

They want Santorum to win in the worst way, so this thing is definitely still up for grabs.

3 posted on 03/18/2012 12:37:48 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

If the Grinch areally wanted to beat Obama and avoid the LDS take over of the government, he would have bowed out gracefully yesterday.


4 posted on 03/18/2012 12:39:44 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy; SJackson; PhilCollins; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; Sun; antonius; ...

Someone, quick, get Rick Santorum into downstate Illinois FAST!!!!!


5 posted on 03/18/2012 12:40:13 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Principled

Illinois is a “Direct Election primary”.

Here is a link to the status of all the states as well as the counts; http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html


6 posted on 03/18/2012 12:41:35 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Illinois is wide open.

Since we vote by congressional district, Romney could have a 60/40 advantage in a Chicago district and win their delegates, and then Santorum could have just a 51-49 advantage in the suburbs or downstate and win their delegates.

Every district is different. Hearing 41-32-etc. isn’t helpful in a state like Illinois. It’s not proportional, in terms of allocating delegates based on percentages.

Delegates (and the alternates too) run to represent their congressional districts.

Incidentally, regarding the claim that Democrats are meddling... oh yes, dems meddle all the time, but they’re more likely to vote for Romney as the moderate they can more easily beat.

The few remaining dems who cross over to vote for Rick are usually doing so because they agree with him on some major issue, so they would be with him in November.


7 posted on 03/18/2012 12:42:54 PM PDT by jfd1776
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To: Paperdoll

Gingrich could bow out, and still may after Tuesday, but either way, you will not like the result. It will not turn out like you think it will.


8 posted on 03/18/2012 12:43:43 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
They want Santorum to win in the worst way,

Tell us again how well Republicans crossing over to vote for Obama in the Dem primary worked out. Those stunts have a history of backfiring.

9 posted on 03/18/2012 12:46:01 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Add Illinois to the states that Gingrich has taken from Santorum....Ohio and Michigan are also on the list. Had Santorum gotten these three states, it would be over for Mittens. Unfortunately quite a few people would rather see Mittens as the nominee then Santorum. Doesn’t say much for them.


10 posted on 03/18/2012 12:47:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Principled
[mittens needs 47% of all remaining delegates.
if all he can do is get 41% in Illinois...]

That's not quite how it works. You are confusing raw polling data with Delegate allocations. You are not even close to how it works. Santorum needs over 70% after today, and Romney will also get 150 Super Delegates. Ron Paul will also probably hand his delegates over to Romney as well.

11 posted on 03/18/2012 12:47:46 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Why? So he can lose worse?

Anyone who knows the demographics of the state knows the overwhelming majority of voters live north of I-80, with most living in Chicago and the suburbs//collar counties. That's historically also been why Chicago democrats control this effing state.

12 posted on 03/18/2012 12:48:21 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

But it will turn out exactly as the Establishment wants it to. My hopes for our future died on December 3.

And I’ve read sevweral very interesting books since them!


13 posted on 03/18/2012 12:48:32 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Since this is another “OPEN” primary, it is very critical, to the number of how many Democrat crossover “Prank” votes will show at the polls. . . They want Santorum to win in the worst way, so this thing is definitely still up for grabs.

Now why would Democrats want Santorum to win a GOP primary? (/sarc)

14 posted on 03/18/2012 12:49:17 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Gotta be honest, I think Santorum has a shot here.

He has delegate issues in a few districts, but he may win statewide. A huge chuck of Newt folks here are casting for Rick to beat Romney.

Most of them held out, but Newt just didn’t rise here in time.

Newt will underperform polling, Rick will overperform. Just what I’m seeing. Been doing this a while now, and I can tell you Rick will benefit from Newt voters trying to slow Romney.

Of my phone “tree” of Newt folks, nearly everyone who is in a district where Rick can take the delegates is going to vote for Santorum. Though nobody is apparently casting for him in the troubled districts.......


15 posted on 03/18/2012 12:49:40 PM PDT by TitansAFC (Newt-torum can broker 1144 delegates in August - THEY CAN DO IT!!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Dang—always wanted Newt to go one on one to Romney.

Santorum keeps getting in the way. The insiders wrote this like a script. (Turn curse, folks)

16 posted on 03/18/2012 12:49:50 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Turn course.............


17 posted on 03/18/2012 12:50:22 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: usconservative

In the midwestern primaries, there has been a distinct urban/rural split, with Romney winning the cities and suburbs and Santorum sweeping small towns and rural areas. There is every reason to expect that pattern to repeat itself in Illinois.


18 posted on 03/18/2012 12:54:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Christie at the beach

“I got some real concerns about this movement with in the republican party and tea party movement to sorta re-fashion conservatism. and I will vocally and publicly appose it and uh do my best to correct the record.”

Rick Santorum.

Dont take my word go listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8smmN5QWf8


19 posted on 03/18/2012 12:54:51 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Christie at the beach

Wrong, I think you mean to say the voters are getting in the way because they seem to disagree with you.


20 posted on 03/18/2012 12:55:31 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: napscoordinator
You are still assuming that Santorum would automatically get 100% of Newt's voters. When repeated polls give that advantage to Romney.

You have a tendency to base your views on hypotheticals, and you rabidly defend your position on that basis. It's your choice to avoid realistic outlooks or outcomes, so don't assume that because someone points out the facts, based on realistic data, that it equates their preference for a certain candidate.

When you keep repeating that rhetoric, it makes you look ignorant and disingenuous.

21 posted on 03/18/2012 12:56:46 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Clintonfatigued; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Clintonfatigued. Have a great evening, all!


22 posted on 03/18/2012 1:01:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You are still assuming that Santorum would automatically get 100% of Newt's voters. When repeated polls give that advantage to Romney

Let's give it a try and see. Have Newt come out and withdrawal his support and give it all to Santorum. If he would give a great speech on Monday endorsing Santorum in Illinois, Santorum would win decisively. By the way, he did not need 100 percent of Newt's vote in Ohio....just one percent. So your ignorance is pretty sad.

23 posted on 03/18/2012 1:02:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: TitansAFC
Being realistic, about all Santorum can do here, is force a Brokered Convention. Because Romney is still very strong in several huge “Winner Take All” states, which will eliminate all of Santorum’s chances of winning enough Delegates.

You can keep on misleading yourself, but I see things from a more black and white perspective.

24 posted on 03/18/2012 1:03:36 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Christie at the beach

always wanted Newt to go one on one to Romney.

He did in Florida and the results were not good. Newt could easily try another state but has chosen not to for whatever reason. Santorum has stood up and is at least putting forth a full effort to get this nomination. Newt just believes it should be handed to him without working. Now you know that I am 100 percent correct on the last statement at least.


25 posted on 03/18/2012 1:05:24 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: jfd1776
Is there a source where the Illinois polls are broken down by district? Seems that would be the most useful info looking ahead into the election there.
26 posted on 03/18/2012 1:07:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: napscoordinator
Oh, I see, so now you insult me because I don't agree with you.

But the facts are, Newt does not like Santorum all that well. He points out that Santorum can't beat Obama. This is not ignorant, but very realistic. So, I doubt that Newt will endorse Santorum. He just does not have the right stuff and Newt knows it. If that were the case, you can bet that Newt would have done so by now.

27 posted on 03/18/2012 1:09:04 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: napscoordinator
quite a few people would rather see Mittens as the nominee then Santorum. Doesn’t say much for them

The political figures in Penn who know Santorum better than anyone here, including you, have almost all gone over to Mitt. What does that say about Rick?

28 posted on 03/18/2012 1:12:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: usconservative
I spoke with a guy once from Rockford, who said you have two completely separate states there, north and south of I-80. I believe it.
29 posted on 03/18/2012 1:14:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: napscoordinator; All
"Unfortunately quite a few people would
rather see Mittens as the nominee than Santorum."


30 posted on 03/18/2012 1:15:26 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Paperdoll

We must stop Mormons from getting into the White House!!!


31 posted on 03/18/2012 1:17:59 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

With all due respect, I trust nothing coming out of sleeze. Not republican and most certainly definitely not dim-bulb-crat election results.

The dead people state that gave us the Cretin-in-Chief and (earlier) JFK can shove their dead people and their political systems up their collective smelly septic Obamas.


32 posted on 03/18/2012 1:19:38 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
He points out that Santorum can't beat Obama.

Gingrich and Carol Rove have spent too much time together. It's time for Gingrich to go back to FOX and analyze.

33 posted on 03/18/2012 1:20:07 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: napscoordinator
Woulda coulda shoulda never got anybody anywhere. grow up, swabby.
34 posted on 03/18/2012 1:20:40 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Rick polls better against obama than Newt does. Newt has a super-inflated ego. I like him, but, think his days are numbered. He is being a spoiler in this election, but, of course, country comes first. /sarc


35 posted on 03/18/2012 1:20:53 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: musicman

Old news and not relevant. Many HERE on Free Republic were all on board with Romney in 2008. Of course most won’t admit it, but if you do an easy search you will find it. I don’t give a darn who he endorsed. He wants to beat him now and that is what matters. Normally I see the Santorum pictures and think people are endorsing him. I would at least switch the picture out and put Romney....it might get some attention. The only reason I read this was because of what you quoted from me.


36 posted on 03/18/2012 1:22:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: org.whodat
- >I think you mean to say the voters

Santos is getting wins from liberals Helping him. Oh, wait-a win a dirty win is a win. Got it. Newt doesn't need dirty wins. He has people who support him for his solutions and leadership. santos can't continue without the liberals. Yes, a good plan for the fall election. Thank you for reading my mind so well.

37 posted on 03/18/2012 1:23:16 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Oh, I see, so now you insult me because I don’t agree with you.

Oh for goodness sake. Do you ever read the posts you give me? Read them and you will be amazed at how you insult me. I don’t care because my mission is to get Santorum as our President. But since you brought it up, I thought I would remind you that you are not squeaky clean.


38 posted on 03/18/2012 1:24:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The political figures in Penn who know Santorum better than anyone here, including you, have almost all gone over to Mitt. What does that say about Rick?

It means we have a lot of work to do before 24 April including myself. Another donation is warranted due to your post. Thanks!


39 posted on 03/18/2012 1:25:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Catsrus
-> Rick polls better against obama than Newt does. Newt has a super-inflated ego. I like him, but, think his days are numbered. He is being a spoiler in this election, but, of course, country comes first. /sarc

HAHAHA... the corrupt polling you quote.......... No wonder we are in this mess..Gop-e is the master.

40 posted on 03/18/2012 1:27:16 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Newt has an ego the size of Jupiter.

As for the BS floating around that Democrats helped Santorum win AL/MS, what crack-pipe are you smoking?

Why don’t you actually take a look at the results of the 2008 Alabama Primary
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#AL

Pay close attention to the County breakout. Notice how Huckabee swept the north and McCain the Middle/South (except for Southeast) and Mobile

Now look at the 2012 Primary Map
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/state/al

Santorum won pretty much where Huckabee did. Newt won pretty much where McCain did except Birmingham, Monty, and Mobile and took Huckabee’s area in the Southeast.

If “Democrats” in Northern AL turned out for Santorum, it’s highly likely they’re voting Republican in the General. Once again, take a look at the margins Bush got against Kerry and compare to what McCain got against Obama. Northern AL is one of the few areas in the country that McCain far outperformed Bush, because the Democrats there had an issue with their nominee.

Santorum and Newt pull the same Demographics:
1. Primarily Male
2. Supports the Tea Party
3. Very Conservative/Somewhat Conservative
4. Income Less than 100K
5. Evangelica/Catholic/Religious/Regular Church Attendance

Romney’s Demographic is the following:
1. Women
2. Seniors >65
3. Hispanics
4. Mormons
5. Moderate/Liberal Republicans repulsed by Social Issues
6. Affluent Republicans >100K

Every Exit Poll keeps revealing the same information. There’s no way Romney gets half of or more support from Newt supporters than Santorum.


41 posted on 03/18/2012 1:27:55 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: Christie at the beach

Santos is getting wins from liberals Helping him.

Reagan did too in two elections. I wonder if you complained about that too back in 1980 and especially 1984. I guess you just don’t think people should get as many votes as possible. True you are supporting a guy with very low voter turn out so maybe you are confused.


42 posted on 03/18/2012 1:29:06 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Christie at the beach

Newt and his wife are relaxed and enjoying dinners, dancing and just not campaigning much anymore.

Ya can’t pull someone over the finish line if they can’t walk, CatB.

Just not gonna happen. Your arguments for propping up a candidate who is DONE, ie FINI are sounding lame and boring.


43 posted on 03/18/2012 1:34:44 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: napscoordinator

With all due respect naps Reagan got disaffected Democrats to join our coalition (socons and ficons). Democrats are organizing to vote for Santorum for the express purpose of handing Obama a fairly easy win in the fall.


44 posted on 03/18/2012 1:34:44 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I meant here in Illinois (where I live), He can’t win the nomination outright, no.


45 posted on 03/18/2012 1:35:36 PM PDT by TitansAFC (Newt-torum can broker 1144 delegates in August - THEY CAN DO IT!!!)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

And what a surprise it will be to find out that their easy win target is Romney, not Santorum.


46 posted on 03/18/2012 1:36:39 PM PDT by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Luckily it won’t work and they are going to help elect the Next President of the United States. The reason I am confident in saying that is because of the blue collar states where Santorum will win easily over Obama. Those mid-west states are not going for Obama this time for sure.


47 posted on 03/18/2012 1:39:58 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: Mountain Mary

I’m just telling you what I see Mary. I see Democrat strategists organizing Democrats to vote Santorum in Michigan (and the subsequent interviews of Democrats that voted for him there; they are not “Reagan Democrats”). I see Democrats on sites like Daily Kos organizing Democrats to vote Santorum. I see Democrat strategists and MSM “analysts” (no friends of ours) absolutely gleeful when Rick wins a primary or caucus.


48 posted on 03/18/2012 1:43:16 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t know about that. Do you really think Rick can carry Michigan and Pennsylvania against Obama. I don’t see it.


49 posted on 03/18/2012 1:46:38 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: napscoordinator
Now, You try to give us a history lesson on how it was during the Reagan years, claiming that the recent Democrat Prank voters are like the Reagan Democrats.

It is you who are either naive, or just simply too dense to understand the difference. Well here, I was there, so I will correct your error;

Reagan Democrats were angry at Carter, so they voted for Reagan in the Primaries AND the General election. Reagan received a very large percentage of them, which is how Reagan won in the last month of the election. But most of those Reagan Democrats, became Republicans and no longer exist

In Santorum’s case, the Democrats who he has so ignorantly pandered to, do not support him, are dedicated Obama supporters and are voting in our primaries for the sole purpose to disrupt our nomination of either Romney or Gingrich. They WANT Santorum to win. Not because they plan do vote for him in the General, but because the believe that Santorum will be by far, the easiest to beat.

It's just that simple. And they may very well make the difference in our primary, if they keep this up.

Thank GOD that most of the really large primaries are closed. So the best that Santorum can do, is force a brokered convention if he squeaks out Illinois.

50 posted on 03/18/2012 1:53:38 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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